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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by Muppet the Cat » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:08 pm

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Before I went on holiday two weeks ago I was listening to one of Ges's favourite bands, hadn't listened to their albums in a very long time

Black Sabbath

Favourite five albums

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (strange choice for my favourite Sabbath album I suspect)
Paranoid
Black Sabbath
Vol 4
Masters Of Reality

Remember seeing Sabbath in 1970 at Leeds Town Hall when I was a bit of a head-banger :lol: Paranoid was one of the great rock singles of the 70's

Chart stats

Paranoid was Sabbath's only Top 5 single in the UK

Sabbath's first six studio albums made the UK Top 10 with Paranoid their only No.1 album until the release of their latest album 13 five years ago. I doubt 13 sold nowhere near their earlier back-catalogue albums
Black Sabbath are one of my favourite bands, although as in the early seventies (at their initial peak) I was of an age where I was still spending my pocket money on Slade, Sweet, Mud and David Bowie singles so didn't come to appreciate them until later.

In terms of Top 5 albums I would go for
1.= Master of Reality or Paranoid (I can never decide which one)
3. Vol 4
4. Black Sabbath
5. Heaven and Hell

Perhaps a surprising choice to include a non Ozzy album, but I think H&H is a great album and in a way halted a slide that the band were on. Also I like Dio's stuff with Rainbow - so although different from Ozzy, he was a great rock vocalist IMO.

I'd never seen Sabbath with Ozzy until going to the last night of the 'The End' tour at the Genting Arena in Birmingham in Feb last year. Whilst Ozzy clearly showed signs of his R&R excess over the years it was a great night :moggy:

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by gessa » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:21 pm

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Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:08 pm
Black Sabbath are one of my favourite bands, although as in the early seventies (at their initial peak) I was of an age where I was still spending my pocket money on Slade, Sweet, Mud and David Bowie singles so didn't come to appreciate them until later.

In terms of Top 5 albums I would go for
1.= Master of Reality or Paranoid (I can never decide which one)
3. Vol 4
4. Black Sabbath
5. Heaven and Hell

Perhaps a surprising choice to include a non Ozzy album, but I think H&H is a great album and in a way halted a slide that the band were on. Also I like Dio's stuff with Rainbow - so although different from Ozzy, he was a great rock vocalist IMO.

I'd never seen Sabbath with Ozzy until going to the last night of the 'The End' tour at the Genting Arena in Birmingham in Feb last year. Whilst Ozzy clearly showed signs of his R&R excess over the years it was a great night :moggy:

I was there too, took my young lad, who loves then too and he also likes Rival Sons, so was a double whammy for him.
Did see them on their final tour with Ozzy first time round too :)

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by gessa » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:24 pm

Also went to the Heaven and Hell tour with Dio, not Sabbath imo, should have reformed as a new band ,but good album and show.

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by hector » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:24 pm

Think I will book to see them on their next final tour......
:tup: “And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.” :wink:

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:35 pm

hector wrote:
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Think I will book to see them on their next final tour......
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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by gessa » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:37 pm

Black Sabbath
Paranoid
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Master Of Reality
Vol 4

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:40 pm

gessa wrote:
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Black Sabbath
Paranoid
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Master Of Reality
Vol 4
We have the same top three but in a different order mate :tup:

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was such an underrated album probably because it was their 5th release

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:48 pm

64's Hall of Fame

More to follow of course

Arcade Fire
Bad Co
Beach Boys
Beatles
Black Sabbath
Clash
Elton John
Lou Reed
Pink Floyd
Velvet Underground

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by Muppet the Cat » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:01 pm

gessa wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:21 pm
I was there too, took my young lad, who loves then too and he also likes Rival Sons, so was a double whammy for him.
Did see them on their final tour with Ozzy first time round too :)
They only got to do a relatively short set in Support of Sabbath didn't they.

I saw them about 5 years ago, at a date on their UK/European tour, at Cardiff University and they were really good. Jay Buchanan can sure hit those high notes and as a band they were really tight. I think since then though they've changed the bass player (don't think his bald head look fitted in with the band image !?!?)

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

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gessa wrote:
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I was there too, took my young lad, who loves then too and he also likes Rival Sons, so was a double whammy for him.
Did see them on their final tour with Ozzy first time round too :)
They only got to do a relatively short set in Support of Sabbath didn't they.

I saw them about 5 years ago, at a date on their UK/European tour, at Cardiff University and they were really good. Jay Buchanan can sure hit those high notes and as a band they were really tight. I think since then though they've changed the bass player (don't think his bald head look fitted in with the band image !?!?)

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Twice, how did that happen ????

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by Muppet the Cat » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:09 pm

gessa wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:24 pm
Also went to the Heaven and Hell tour with Dio, not Sabbath imo, should have reformed as a new band ,but good album and show.
Also saw these.
The set-list was largely based on the Heaven & Hell album, which was released as a Black Sabbath album so in a way difficult not to market/promote it as such.

Didn't they have to change the name to H&H because of some contractual wrangle with Ozzy (Sharon Osbourne) over the use of the name BS, before they all became friends again (minus Bill Ward of course), which meant that they couldn't tour under the BS name ?

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by gessa » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:10 pm

1964white wrote:
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We have the same top three but in a different order mate :tup:

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was such an underrated album probably because it was their 5th release

Following Vol 4 it had a lot to live up to for a lot of fans but personally I think Vol 4 as a few week songs on. Changes does my head in although for some it was a kind of anthem.
When he covered it with Kelly, I nearly vomited every time I heard it.

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by gessa » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:11 pm

Muppet the Cat wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:09 pm
Also saw these.
The set-list was largely based on the Heaven & Hell album, which was released as a Black Sabbath album so in a way difficult not to market/promote it as such.

Didn't they have to change the name to H&H because of some contractual wrangle with Ozzy (Sharon Osbourne) over the use of the name BS, before they all became friends again (minus Bill Ward of course), which meant that they couldn't tour under the BS name ?
Not too sure but anything is possible with that media whore.

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by gessa » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:13 pm

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Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:01 pm
They only got to do a relatively short set in Support of Sabbath didn't they.

I saw them about 5 years ago, at a date on their UK/European tour, at Cardiff University and they were really good. Jay Buchanan can sure hit those high notes and as a band they were really tight. I think since then though they've changed the bass player (don't think his bald head look fitted in with the band image !?!?)

:moggy:
It was, only 8 songs i think.
Fella I was talking to, saw them at a festival a couple of years before and said they were brilliant.

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by faaip » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:06 pm

Never was a Sabbath fan, Ozzy has a voice that grates for me...Deep Purple slightly better but I still own nothing by them
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

"objective fan" - is that a consistent oxymoron?"

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Black Sabbath albums ?

Post by 1964white » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:36 am

On the playlist at the weekend

Arcade Fire

Their best albums

Funeral
Neon Bible
Arcade Fire (EP)

others on my playlist

The Suburbs

FUNERAL was a slow burner, released in the States in 2004 & later in March 2005 in the UK. By November 2005, Funeral had gone gold in both Canada and the UK, and sold over half a million copies worldwide,[20] a very large number for an independent release with minimal television or radio exposure & didn't manage to make the top 30 album chart in the UK
FUNERAL has also been very successful in our Prem/Champs/L1/L2 Album polls with two consecutive promotions since it's introduction to the competition

Chart Stats

Arcade Fire achieved three No.1's with their worst albums in the UK & the USA. Shamefully Funeral even though it sold millions only made the No.33 spot in the UK however their follow up Neon Bible did reach No.2 in both countries

The Canadian band had top four top 30 singles (all off Funeral & Neon Bible) in the UK

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Arcade Fire albums ?

Post by Muppet the Cat » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:23 pm

Arcade Fire - have nothing by these, other than a single track on my iPod - Sprawl II, which comes up once every blue moon on a shuffle. So can't really contribute or comment on their output, be it positively or not.

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Arcade Fire albums ?

Post by faaip » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:34 pm

Funeral is outstanding and live they're a triumph, never really got into Neon Bible
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Arcade Fire albums ?

Post by 1964white » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:04 pm

Muppet the Cat wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:23 pm
Arcade Fire - have nothing by these, other than a single track on my iPod - Sprawl II, which comes up once every blue moon on a shuffle. So can't really contribute or comment on their output, be it positively or not.

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Give Funeral a listen Cat, a great debut

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Re: The Music Discussion Thread - Your favourite Arcade Fire albums ?

Post by 1964white » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:06 pm

faaip wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:34 pm
Funeral is outstanding and live they're a triumph, never really got into Neon Bible
I enjoyed Neon Bible, after that they went downhill imo !

Funeral is undoubtedly their best 8-)

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