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Post by Martyn » Thu May 01, 2014 10:33 am

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Re: Help UKIP waste lots of money

Post by Genghers » Thu May 01, 2014 10:36 am

Pinched from elsewhere:
All you people posting stuff to the UKIP freepost address to cost them money? You do realise you're actually costing the Royal Mail money, right? There's this little thing called "abuse of freepost". If you're not aware of it you can be damn sure the Kippers are. If you post them anything larger than large letter size the Royal Mail won't even try to deliver it because large letter is the maximum size for standard freepost*. So bricks might be a problem. And if you post them stuff they don't want they can refuse to pay for it under abuse of freepost.

Now, if you've posted something saying it's from YOU it's entirely possible the Royal Mail could take YOU to small claims to recover the cost, but it's probably not worth their while in legal fees to do so. So it's almost certainly not going to cost you, personally, anything. But the Royal Mail are going to suffer financial losses from this. Me personally, I don't think that makes the political point you were wishing to make.

Just so you know.

ETA: there are people on twitter contending that - like when these campaigns have happened previously - UKIP might just give in and close down their freepost address and that will be a victory. So, if UKIP close down their freepost address, what happens? The Royal Mail get to store warehouses full of undeliverable mail (which costs them money), and people have to pay to contact UKIP (which costs THEM money) and UKIP no longer have a freepost bill to pay (so they are paying LESS money) and will no longer have to sort through mail they didn't want to recieve anyway (so their admin costs will be lower). Pls to be explaining to me how this is a victory against UKIP?

Here's an idea: if you want to defeat UKIP, vote for someone else, and encourage other people to do likewise. If enough people don't vote for them they lose deposits, in the Euros if not the council elections, and that's WAY better than possibly potentially costing them 42p and a bit of annoyance, right?

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Post by HarryofOz » Thu May 01, 2014 10:39 am

I get the feeling (don't ask me why) that this thread could turn out to be somewhat controversial.
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Post by becchio bear » Thu May 01, 2014 11:11 am

HarryofOz wrote:I get the feeling (don't ask me why) that this thread could turn out to be somewhat controversial.
I always knew you were astute Harry :P :bear:

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Post by Martyn » Thu May 01, 2014 11:41 am

Genghers wrote:Pinched from elsewhere:
Fair enough - up to a point.

But it is absolutely reasonable to send their election leaflets back to them (I got one this morning and it's certainly going back freepost). I will probably also send them the Tory, Labour and LibDem leaflets (in separate envelopes, naturally)

And I don't care that much whether the Royal Mail, privatised at an absurdly low price to benefit the financial institutions who advised the Condems on pricing and then snapped up the shares on the cheap, have increased costs.

And I really don't care whether it costs people money to contact UKIP - in fact I would be delighted if it cost them more.

And I will certainly be voting for someone else.
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Post by Genghers » Thu May 01, 2014 1:41 pm

Guildford White wrote:Fair enough - up to a point.

But it is absolutely reasonable to send their election leaflets back to them (I got one this morning and it's certainly going back freepost). I will probably also send them the Tory, Labour and LibDem leaflets (in separate envelopes, naturally)

And I don't care that much whether the Royal Mail, privatised at an absurdly low price to benefit the financial institutions who advised the Condems on pricing and then snapped up the shares on the cheap, have increased costs.

And I really don't care whether it costs people money to contact UKIP - in fact I would be delighted if it cost them more.

And I will certainly be voting for someone else.
Yeah, they've had the leaflet they sent me straight back.

And as it says, best way to have a dig at UKIP is voting another way...

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Post by CSA » Thu May 01, 2014 8:08 pm

:lol: Welcome to the mainstream Nigel :tup: squeaky bum time for the Tories (and Labour) funny how when they were just a fringe party no one paid them any notice, now they are on a roll, and a real threat, every move they make is analysed deeply (and derided by their political opponents)
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Post by Martyn » Fri May 02, 2014 7:46 am

There is much to deride CSA, and I'm not even thinking of their European or anti-immigration policies.

Problem is, many folk see the anti-EU policies, which I accept are attractive to many (regardless of my own opinion) and think UKIP are for them but they don't look at other areas. Two I would highlight are::

1. Flat rate income tax at 30%. Or to put it another way, reducing tax rates for the high paid by 33% and increasing it for the lower paid by 50%

2. Abolition of maternity pay, making it difficult if not impossible for most women to build a career
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Post by Wolfetoneleeds » Fri May 02, 2014 9:05 am

Guildford White wrote:There is much to deride CSA, and I'm not even thinking of their European or anti-immigration policies.

Problem is, many folk see the anti-EU policies, which I accept are attractive to many (regardless of my own opinion) and think UKIP are for them but they don't look at other areas. Two I would highlight are::

1. Flat rate income tax at 30%. Or to put it another way, reducing tax rates for the high paid by 33% and increasing it for the lower paid by 50%

2. Abolition of maternity pay, making it difficult if not impossible for most women to build a career
We as men don't care about the last one though ;)

Anyone see question time last night?

They all talk bollocks to me

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Post by Martyn » Fri May 02, 2014 9:20 am

Wolfetoneleeds wrote: We as men don't care about the last one though ;)

Anyone see question time last night?

They all talk bollocks to me
I hope you're wearing armour wolfie - there is the odd female on here who might be gunning for you.

And when I say "odd female" ....................
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Post by becchio bear » Fri May 02, 2014 9:22 am

Guildford White wrote:
I hope you're wearing armour wolfie - there is the odd female on here who might be gunning for you.

And when I say "odd female" ....................
That's no way to speak of Anna, GW :shock: :bear:

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Post by Wolfetoneleeds » Fri May 02, 2014 9:27 am

The lovely ladies know I'm only joking

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Post by Martyn » Fri May 02, 2014 10:21 am

becchio bear wrote:
That's no way to speak of Anna, GW :shock: :bear:
:-D
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Post by rab_rant » Fri May 02, 2014 11:41 am

becchio bear wrote:
I always knew you were astute Harry :P :bear:
BB if you think Harry is astute
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Post by 1964white » Mon May 26, 2014 6:26 am

An emphatic victory as the people of Britian vote for UKIP in a immigration/EU backlash !

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Post by Martyn » Mon May 26, 2014 7:34 am

1964white wrote:An emphatic victory as the people of Britian vote for UKIP in a immigration/EU backlash !
Given the amount of publicity the media, and particularly the BBC, gave Farage I'm surprised they didn't do better.

In last week's local elections the press were creaming their pants over UKIP's "breakthrough", but how much coverage was given to the fact their share of the vote declined? In last year's local elections they got 23%, this year they got 17%.

The media have an agenda that they are going to push regardless of the facts
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Post by 1964white » Mon May 26, 2014 7:47 am

Guildford White wrote:
Given the amount of publicity the media, and particularly the BBC, gave Farage I'm surprised they didn't do better.

In last week's local elections the press were creaming their pants over UKIP's "breakthrough", but how much coverage was given to the fact their share of the vote declined? In last year's local elections they got 23%, this year they got 17%.

The media have an agenda that they are going to push regardless of the facts
Farage very confident/bullish regards the next General Election

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Post by Martyn » Mon May 26, 2014 8:24 am

1964white wrote:
Farage very confident/bullish regards the next General Election
Without reason.

They won't get more than 5 seats, but David Dimbleby et al will talk them up regardless.
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Post by Emsley » Mon May 26, 2014 1:37 pm

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Victory in Europe! :tup:

KEEP FIGHTING! :mrgreen:

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Media on UKIPs side :roflmao:

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