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Re: Last year / this year
I have noticed that as this seasons stats have been getting better and better that Martin had started replying less and less to this thread lol.
Not having a go Martin it's just I have noticed you have less to moan at now which means we are going in the right direction. I just wish we didn't have a summer break and next season started the following Saturday.
Not having a go Martin it's just I have noticed you have less to moan at now which means we are going in the right direction. I just wish we didn't have a summer break and next season started the following Saturday.
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Re: Last year / this year
I wish next season started last Christmas.ldsutd wrote:I just wish we didn't have a summer break and next season started the following Saturday.
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Re: Last year / this year
No mate, at the point when ordinary posts I had made were being twisted by a mod under the pretence that they were a defence of "McDermott/Warnock" and an attack on Cellino even though those posts mentioned neither, I made a decision to post nothing that could in any way be construed as an opinion. That's why I don't post much in here any more, I am sticking to the predictions forum.ldsutd wrote:I have noticed that as this seasons stats have been getting better and better that Martin had started replying less and less to this thread lol.
Not having a go Martin it's just I have noticed you have less to moan at now which means we are going in the right direction. I just wish we didn't have a summer break and next season started the following Saturday.
I am, however, delighted by our run of form since Xmas.
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Re: Last year / this year
My thoughts of last & this season not far off the truth then
Said at the end of last season we needed to strip the squad as i felt they looked like a L1 outfit. Players such as Pearce/Lees/Tonge/Green/Peltier/Pugh/Varney/Hunt/Kenny/Poleon/etc were all very average.
No spine to the first eleven
Team lacked legs & energy
McCormack was not good for team spirit as he made constant wage demands & wanted to be involved in everything, not a good captain too. When did you ever see Mowatt take a free-kick ?
Last season we scored 59 goals heavily reliant on McCormack for the goals, this season we have scored 42 goals from all around the team which is much healthier than putting all your eggs in one basket
Smith now looking the League One striker he is always was needing 5 or 6 chances to score, always thought our fans overrated Matt Smith
Never a McDermott fan although to be fair to BM he was left with Neil Warnock's legacy, he never inspired me with his tactics/substitutions, signings, even though he signed Butland, Wickham, Kebe, Stewart from prem clubs he couldn't get the best out of them
Always felt we required a top european coach to take us to another level....on that point Redfern has proved me totally wrong
Said at the end of last season we needed to strip the squad as i felt they looked like a L1 outfit. Players such as Pearce/Lees/Tonge/Green/Peltier/Pugh/Varney/Hunt/Kenny/Poleon/etc were all very average.
No spine to the first eleven
Team lacked legs & energy
McCormack was not good for team spirit as he made constant wage demands & wanted to be involved in everything, not a good captain too. When did you ever see Mowatt take a free-kick ?
Last season we scored 59 goals heavily reliant on McCormack for the goals, this season we have scored 42 goals from all around the team which is much healthier than putting all your eggs in one basket
Smith now looking the League One striker he is always was needing 5 or 6 chances to score, always thought our fans overrated Matt Smith
Never a McDermott fan although to be fair to BM he was left with Neil Warnock's legacy, he never inspired me with his tactics/substitutions, signings, even though he signed Butland, Wickham, Kebe, Stewart from prem clubs he couldn't get the best out of them
Always felt we required a top european coach to take us to another level....on that point Redfern has proved me totally wrong
Re: Last year / this year
Oh come on Martyn we all say things that may inadvertently offend someone. Please can we call a truce to this feud you seem to have towards me. It doesn't make pleasant reading for all our membersMartyn wrote:
No mate, at the point when ordinary posts I had made were being twisted by a mod under the pretence that they were a defence of "McDermott/Warnock" and an attack on Cellino even though those posts mentioned neither, I made a decision to post nothing that could in any way be construed as an opinion. That's why I don't post much in here any more, I am sticking to the predictions forum.
I am, however, delighted by our run of form since Xmas.
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Re: Last year / this year
I thought he was having a go at me!!!!
Delighted for Redfearn. It is very easy these days for people to all be armchair experts and not give the manager enough time. Very few managers have instant impacts (can only think of Mourinho and Martin O'Neill). Everybody wrote Hockaday and Milanic off after a handful of games and we will never know how well they could have done - especially Milanic who had had decent success as a manager but needed time to get used to English football and the players he had. It would have been very easy to have seen Redfearn sent back to the academy and simply written off as a manager/coach but he has tinkered with the squad, chosen the players he wants (regardless of opinions of fans and, according to some, Cellino) worked out a couple of systems that suits them and got a team that has a great spirit about it and looks to have a shout at promotion next season.
For the first time since the SG era thinks are on the up.
Delighted for Redfearn. It is very easy these days for people to all be armchair experts and not give the manager enough time. Very few managers have instant impacts (can only think of Mourinho and Martin O'Neill). Everybody wrote Hockaday and Milanic off after a handful of games and we will never know how well they could have done - especially Milanic who had had decent success as a manager but needed time to get used to English football and the players he had. It would have been very easy to have seen Redfearn sent back to the academy and simply written off as a manager/coach but he has tinkered with the squad, chosen the players he wants (regardless of opinions of fans and, according to some, Cellino) worked out a couple of systems that suits them and got a team that has a great spirit about it and looks to have a shout at promotion next season.
For the first time since the SG era thinks are on the up.
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Re: Last year / this year
Redfearn had the advantage of relying on the youth products, and his knowledge of what was already here. Hockaday/Milanic were both thrown in at the deep end with expectations high, patience low and familiarity non-existent. I don't know if anyone predicted at the start of the season that the youth would be so prominent in the new team, nor that Wootton/Morison/Murphy/Austin would have key parts. Hockaday and Milanic's main goals would have been to get the new players into the team, as I'm sure that's what the Chairman would have wanted. They didn't have the freedom, knowledge or indeed lack of pressure to start worrying about what was in the youth set up. They'd enough players to get to know without looking at more.
Redfearn got a head start due to lack of pressure (we were already doing poor, he only had to improve), lack of requirements (many fans weren't overly impressed by some of the new signings and as such weren't expecting to see them play) and his knowledge of the existing senior/youth set up. If I was a player, it's not difficult to imagine you'd also be more fired up by playing for one of your own (Redfearn) than an uninspiring (no offence Dave) new managerial signing.
As many said at the start, new signings were going to take time to settle in, and it's true that Bellusci, Berardi and Silvestri are proving their worth, but luckily for Redfearn, and us, he was able to fall back on to other players for a more immediate impact. And that was quite evident when considering the performance of a relatively experienced Bamba coming straight into the squad and improving it.
Redfearn has proven he can do it over a long stretch of games and deserves the job. Inspiring, honest, intelligent and is performing well. As it's very much important to other people, i'll also point out he's probably on significantly lower wages than any other manager who could realistically do a better job. Also Thompson appears to be more than capable of providing the extra assistance that is needed in a managerial team and should also receive a lot of credit for this current run.
Redfearn got a head start due to lack of pressure (we were already doing poor, he only had to improve), lack of requirements (many fans weren't overly impressed by some of the new signings and as such weren't expecting to see them play) and his knowledge of the existing senior/youth set up. If I was a player, it's not difficult to imagine you'd also be more fired up by playing for one of your own (Redfearn) than an uninspiring (no offence Dave) new managerial signing.
As many said at the start, new signings were going to take time to settle in, and it's true that Bellusci, Berardi and Silvestri are proving their worth, but luckily for Redfearn, and us, he was able to fall back on to other players for a more immediate impact. And that was quite evident when considering the performance of a relatively experienced Bamba coming straight into the squad and improving it.
Redfearn has proven he can do it over a long stretch of games and deserves the job. Inspiring, honest, intelligent and is performing well. As it's very much important to other people, i'll also point out he's probably on significantly lower wages than any other manager who could realistically do a better job. Also Thompson appears to be more than capable of providing the extra assistance that is needed in a managerial team and should also receive a lot of credit for this current run.
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Re: Last year / this year
Gotta admit that however Thompson is helping NR it seems to have made a big difference. A very uninspiring choice as no one had heard of him and no real hint of what he had to offer.
Re: Last year / this year
Neil knew what Thompson had, and that is all it matters. In Redders We Trust.weasel wrote:Gotta admit that however Thompson is helping NR it seems to have made a big difference. A very uninspiring choice as no one had heard of him and no real hint of what he had to offer.
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Sorry to say in Redders I DID'NT trust but oh I am SOOOO glad he proved me wrong.Crude wrote: Neil knew what Thompson had, and that is all it matters. In Redders We Trust.
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Re: Last year / this year
theleedsmango wrote:
Redfearn got a head start due to lack of pressure (we were already doing poor, he only had to improve), lack of requirements (many fans weren't overly impressed by some of the new signings and as such weren't expecting to see them play) and his knowledge of the existing senior/youth set up.
A lack of pressure?
He was under a huge amount of pressure to deliver. The fanbase expects nothing less and so many managers and players have wilted under that pressure and failed to deliver.
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I have to agree. I think one of the biggest things about Thompson coming in was his sharing the work load henice releiving some of the pressure off Redder, enabling him to concentrate on the more important things.barryanorak wrote:
A lack of pressure?
He was under a huge amount of pressure to deliver. The fanbase expects nothing less and so many managers and players have wilted under that pressure and failed to deliver.
Re: Last year / this year
I think the benefit Redders had was that the season was all but written off when he got his second spell.
So we are taking a slightly longer term view.
I just hope he is given the players he needs to step up from being a very hard team to play against to one that can push on.
So we are taking a slightly longer term view.
I just hope he is given the players he needs to step up from being a very hard team to play against to one that can push on.
Every game I predict a 3 - 1 Leeds win, I am traditional like that.
Re: Last year / this year
He has been given the players so far :mav wrote:I think the benefit Redders had was that the season was all but written off when he got his second spell.
So we are taking a slightly longer term view.
I just hope he is given the players he needs to step up from being a very hard team to play against to one that can push on.
Silvestri, Bamba, Bellusci, Cooper, Berardi, Sharp & Antenucci have all played a part in 2015 plus Doukara, Bianchi & Sloth started the season quite well until their form dipped. We don't know how good N'Goyi is yet !
Re: Last year / this year
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He has been given the players so far :
Silvestri, Bamba, Bellusci, Cooper, Berardi, Sharp & Antenucci have all played a part in 2015 plus Doukara, Bianchi & Sloth started the season quite well until their form dipped. We don't know how good N'Goyi is yet !
I mean players that are creative and work with the system he wants to use, our midfield is talented and works hard, but we don't have a true creative outlet that Redders seems to trust.
That is presuming Redders wants us to be a more creative side.
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We seem to be creating chances fairly regularly (from the number Morison has missed ), but we don't have anyone who can create something from nothing which is what most top teams have.
We also still lack pace throughout the squad, Watford tore us apart on the counter because we just couldn't keep up with them!
A(nother) proven goalscorer and a couple of pacey wingers would do us well I think. As well as Sam has played at RW (and Wooton at RB), I think his future is still as an overlapping fullback as opposed to an out and out winger.
The spine of the team has come together over the last couple of months and maybe Ngoyi will provide more grit to midfield. Morison has played a part, but he'd be easily replaced if we found a striker of similar build who can actually score!
If Adryan stays then maybe he could be our creative spark, but who knows?
We also still lack pace throughout the squad, Watford tore us apart on the counter because we just couldn't keep up with them!
A(nother) proven goalscorer and a couple of pacey wingers would do us well I think. As well as Sam has played at RW (and Wooton at RB), I think his future is still as an overlapping fullback as opposed to an out and out winger.
The spine of the team has come together over the last couple of months and maybe Ngoyi will provide more grit to midfield. Morison has played a part, but he'd be easily replaced if we found a striker of similar build who can actually score!
If Adryan stays then maybe he could be our creative spark, but who knows?
Re: Last year / this year
Genghers wrote:We seem to be creating chances fairly regularly (from the number Morison has missed ), but we don't have anyone who can create something from nothing which is what most top teams have.
We also still lack pace throughout the squad, Watford tore us apart on the counter because we just couldn't keep up with them!
A(nother) proven goalscorer and a couple of pacey wingers would do us well I think. As well as Sam has played at RW (and Wooton at RB), I think his future is still as an overlapping fullback as opposed to an out and out winger.
The spine of the team has come together over the last couple of months and maybe Ngoyi will provide more grit to midfield. Morison has played a part, but he'd be easily replaced if we found a striker of similar build who can actually score!
If Adryan stays then maybe he could be our creative spark, but who knows?
Unless Redders decides that we are safe now, and picks fringe players to try out for the rest of the season, then I fear that the likes of Adryan will up sticks and try their chances elsewhere. I certainly can't see Cellino (or whoever) paying 3 million quid (or Euros) for him on the evidence so far.
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Re: Last year / this year
Update.
3 games left - it won't be much improvement on last season if any.
3 games left - it won't be much improvement on last season if any.
Bates, GFH, Cellino: Same s**t, different arseholes.
Re: Last year / this year
Indeed. Considering we had such a poor start/run early on, I think that being on a par is okay. Shows what good having a complete overhaul does for you though...Martyn wrote:Update.
3 games left - it won't be much improvement on last season if any.
Hopefully with the experience our new players have they can improve on this next season.
Re: Last year / this year
Just shows me that the chairman will have every right to change the manager.
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