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Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby 1964white » Thu May 11, 2017 8:49 am

1 - Unprepared during the close season with signings/friendly campaign
2 - Sluggish start
3 - Players needed time to gel together & acclimatise to the championship
4 - No quality players required in certain positions brought in during the January Window when it mattered
5 - The two panic signings unsettled the balance of our team who were no better than Dallas & Doukara
6 - Sutton fiasco
7 - Some would say the Pontus incident
8 - Squad far too slim & unbalanced
9 - Some players bottled it in the end
10 - Fatigue set in especially as right upto the Derby match we were a pressing team, that side of our game subsided going into the run-in with our midfield totally losing puff. The likes of Green, Wood, Bartley & Ayling all started over 40 games with Jansson & Hernandez making around 35 first team appearances. Also Wood & Pontus were travelling the globe playing for their respective countries so is it any wonder our players legs had gone in what is a long & tough league campaign with players often playing three games a week

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby mav » Thu May 11, 2017 9:39 am

1 - Unprepared during the close season with signings/friendly campaign - Agree
2 - Sluggish start - I would say this is linked to the numbers we introduced AND the above.
3 - Players needed time to gel together & acclimatise to the championship - see above.
4 - No quality players required in certain positions brought in during the January Window when it mattered - We needed a Central Mid that can dominate IMHO.
5 - The two panic signings unsettled the balance of our team who were no better than Dallas & Doukara - Worse I would say.
6 - Sutton fiasco - Disagree.
7 - Some would say the Pontus incident - Disagree
8 - Squad far too slim & unbalanced - Agree
9 - Some players bottled it in the end - Disagree, I just think some were running on empty by the end.
10 - Fatigue set in especially as right upto the Derby match we were a pressing team, that side of our game subsided going into the run-in with our midfield totally losing puff. The likes of Green, Wood, Bartley & Ayling all started over 40 games with Jansson & Hernandez making around 35 first team appearances. Also Wood & Pontus were travelling the globe playing for their respective countries so is it any wonder our players legs had gone in what is a long & tough league campaign with players often playing three games a week - Agree, see above.
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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby lufc1304 » Thu May 11, 2017 11:48 am

The Sutton 'fiasco' was, if rumour is to be believed, Monk making the point to Cellino that whilst there was quantity in the squad, there wasn't enough quality. I agree with mav re 7 and 9; our squad, I think, lacked run-in experience, not bottle. And I'm not sure we'll ever know what happened between Monk and Jansson. We missed Jansson's presence when he was dropped/withdrawn, but I don't think that derailed our season.
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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby 1964white » Thu May 11, 2017 11:56 am

lufc1304 wrote:The Sutton 'fiasco' was, if rumour is to be believed, Monk making the point to Cellino that whilst there was quantity in the squad, there wasn't enough quality. I agree with mav re 7 and 9; our squad, I think, lacked run-in experience, not bottle. And I'm not sure we'll ever know what happened between Monk and Jansson. We missed Jansson's presence when he was dropped/withdrawn, but I don't think that derailed our season


I think it was a storm in a teacup tbh

Pontus stepped out of line....Monk disciplined him....some fans made more of it than it was !

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby lufc1304 » Thu May 11, 2017 12:02 pm

1964white wrote:I think it was a storm in a teacup tbh

Pontus stepped out of line....Monk disciplined him....some fans made more of it than it was !


I agree, stuff like that happens at every club. But what I think it does reinforce is the fact the we were, or appeared to be, hugely reliant on a few players within the squad. All the teams around us had players who could step in and fill the gaps when 1st teamers were hurt/suspended etc, we didn't. We had warm bodies, yes, but none were of the requisite quality.
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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby faaip » Thu May 11, 2017 1:12 pm

Reasons we missed the playoffs part 3

1 - Summer, Buddy Holly, the working folly, Good golly Miss Molly and boats
2 - Hammersmith Palais, the Bolshoi Ballet, Jump back in the alley and nanny goats
3 - 18-wheeler Scammels, Domenecker camels, All other mammals plus equal votes
4 - Seeing Piccadilly, Fanny Smith and Willy, Being rather silly, and porridge oats
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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby 1964white » Thu May 11, 2017 1:31 pm

faaip wrote:Reasons we missed the playoffs part 3

1 - Summer, Buddy Holly, the working folly, Good golly Miss Molly and boats
2 - Hammersmith Palais, the Bolshoi Ballet, Jump back in the alley and nanny goats
3 - 18-wheeler Scammels, Domenecker camels, All other mammals plus equal votes
4 - Seeing Piccadilly, Fanny Smith and Willy, Being rather silly, and porridge oats


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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby 1964white » Thu May 11, 2017 1:35 pm

lufc1304 wrote:I agree, stuff like that happens at every club. But what I think it does reinforce is the fact the we were, or appeared to be, hugely reliant on a few players within the squad. All the teams around us had players who could step in and fill the gaps when 1st teamers were hurt/suspended etc, we didn't. We had warm bodies, yes, but none were of the requisite quality.


Yes agree Nick

All of the top six clubs had game-changers on the bench too, we had nowt :(

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby hector » Thu May 11, 2017 2:03 pm

faaip wrote:Reasons we missed the playoffs part 3

1 - Summer, Buddy Holly, the working folly, Good golly Miss Molly and boats
2 - Hammersmith Palais, the Bolshoi Ballet, Jump back in the alley and nanny goats
3 - 18-wheeler Scammels, Domenecker camels, All other mammals plus equal votes
4 - Seeing Piccadilly, Fanny Smith and Willy, Being rather silly, and porridge oats



1....2......3.......

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby faaip » Thu May 11, 2017 2:29 pm

next verse is the killer and the true reason

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby faaip » Thu May 11, 2017 2:33 pm

yes yes my dear, perhaps next year.
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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby Crude » Thu May 11, 2017 5:16 pm

Think we just ran out of gas more than anything. Vieira was played too much, remember he is still only 18 years old. And trying to shuffle the midfield around to fill in the gaps showed we are lacking.
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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby Durly » Thu May 11, 2017 5:20 pm

These are all good points (especially Faaip's) but, if pushed, I would say the main reason we missed out is because we came 7th.
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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby Crude » Thu May 11, 2017 5:21 pm

Durly wrote:These are all good points (especially Faaip's) but, if pushed, I would say the main reason we missed out is because we came 7th.

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby joluafc4eva » Thu May 11, 2017 5:37 pm

Or basically because we bottled it. Ah well on to next season lol

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby 1964white » Thu May 11, 2017 5:51 pm

Durly wrote:These are all good points (especially Faaip's) but, if pushed, I would say the main reason we missed out is because we came 7th.


I guess that had a bearing on us missing out mate :lol:

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Re: Reasons we missed out on the play-offs

Postby Durly » Thu May 11, 2017 10:24 pm

1964white wrote:I guess that had a bearing on us missing out mate :lol:


It certainly didn't help. :wink:
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