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Re: Other fans opinions - oh this is fun reading !!!

Post by Cjay » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:03 pm

1964white wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:36 pm
When filling out the questionaire form which team did you say you supported ?

And what is that Brentford question all about Cjay.....Wembley or Deepdale ?
Im pretty sure i said Leeds, i dont think ive ever lied on these forums when asked on registration.

I dunno mate, i cant remember the question, i joined ages ago, its probably different.

Just tell the truth

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by Cjay » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:27 pm

Try to learn as much about our history as i can but can anyone enlighten me on this

"losing league titles in controversial circumstances against Wolves, and WBA"

Whats this about?

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by leic white 63 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:32 pm

Cjay wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:27 pm
Try to learn as much about our history as i can but can anyone enlighten me on this

"losing league titles in controversial circumstances against Wolves, and WBA"

Whats this about?
i presume it was when we lost to wba in the early 70s over a controversial off side cost us the title and against wolves in 72 made to play a couple days after the final.


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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by billie1 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:06 pm

I think the Wolves “ controversy “ may be about the allegations that Don Revie tried to bribe them to throw the match . This also led to Gary Sprake becoming persona non grata for the part he played in the affair . As I remember the FA did agree to a postponement provided that Leeds agreed to not field Hunter , Madeley or Clarke who had all been picked for England duty ( 2nd leg of European championship game versus West Germany )!

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by 1964white » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:37 pm

leic white 63 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:32 pm
i presume it was when we lost to wba in the early 70s over a controversial off side cost us the title and against wolves in 72 made to play a couple days after the final.

I was there !

A very sad day :(

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by Cjay » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:05 pm

leic white 63 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:32 pm
i presume it was when we lost to wba in the early 70s over a controversial off side cost us the title and against wolves in 72 made to play a couple days after the final.

Oh i see so we were unlucky to not win 2 more titles as well as the European and Cup winners cup?

Thanks :)

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by 1964white » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:46 am

Cjay wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:05 pm
Oh i see so we were unlucky to not win 2 more titles as well as the European and Cup winners cup?

Thanks :)
Robbed at Villa Park too in a cup semi-final v Chelsea in 1967

Leeds were losing 1-0 into the last five minutes, Terry Cooper was adjudged to be offside as we thought we'd scored an equaliser, then we had a free-kick on the edge of the box. Lorimer steps up & hits a thunderbolt into the top corner of the net, Leeds fans go wild only for the official Ken (b*st*rd) Burns to disallow the goal because the Chelsea wall wasn't ten yards back :roll:

We were robbed of at least five trophies in the Revie-era, the hatred for Leeds stemmed further than just the other clubs & their supporters

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by LevLeeds » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:36 am

leic white 63 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:32 pm
i presume it was when we lost to wba in the early 70s over a controversial off side cost us the title and against wolves in 72 made to play a couple days after the final.

Absolute joke..... I mean can you imagine if that happened nowadays,,,, unreal.

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Post by rab_rant » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:37 am

LevLeeds wrote:
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Absolute joke..... I mean can you imagine if that happened nowadays,,,, unreal.
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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by Cjay » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:22 pm

1964white wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:46 am
Robbed at Villa Park too in a cup semi-final v Chelsea in 1967

Leeds were losing 1-0 into the last five minutes, Terry Cooper was adjudged to be offside as we thought we'd scored an equaliser, then we had a free-kick on the edge of the box. Lorimer steps up & hits a thunderbolt into the top corner of the net, Leeds fans go wild only for the official Ken (b*st*rd) Burns to disallow the goal because the Chelsea wall wasn't ten yards back :roll:

We were robbed of at least five trophies in the Revie-era, the hatred for Leeds stemmed further than just the other clubs & their supporters
SOme people would call that paranoia though.

Not saying it is, but can you really be robbed that many times, or does there come a point where you have to admit the club just underachieved?

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Post by Chilli D » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:35 pm

Cjay wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:05 pm
Oh i see so we were unlucky to not win 2 more titles as well as the European and Cup winners cup?

Thanks :)
Don't get me started about the European Cup Final in'75
I will never forgive that cheating robbing b***tard of a referee for depriving us of Europe's biggest prize in club football.

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by 1964white » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:50 pm

Cjay wrote:
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SOme people would call that paranoia though.

Not saying it is, but can you really be robbed that many times, or does there come a point where you have to admit the club just underachieved?
Certainly not paranoia Cjay, you weren't around to dispute it mate

All the diabolical decisions, disallowed goals, referees names, venue & year are still in my memory-box & will remain there until the day I die.

It was bordering on criminal mate & by golly it hurt to think we'd been cheated out of a game which ultimately cost us trophies

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by Cjay » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:59 pm

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Certainly not paranoia Cjay, you weren't around to dispute it mate

All the diabolical decisions, disallowed goals, referees names, venue & year are still in my memory-box & will remain there until the day I die.

It was bordering on criminal mate & by golly it hurt to think we'd been cheated out of a game which ultimately cost us trophies
No i know, i can only go on what im told. :)

Like i can watch the games and i can see yes they were physical but they played some lovely stuff, not just a "dirty" side at all i can see that for myself.

But the "cheated" stuff i can only go on what people like you and others say, other fans would call it paranoia and sour grapes tiz all im saying, not saying it is at all, just i can see both sides because i dont have 1st hand knowledge.

I can see from reading we were runner up a heck of a lot.

3 FA Cups, an INter City Fairs Cup, 5 league titles!!!!!!1

Had things been a bit different Revie would have been a 4 time FA Cup WInner and a 8 time First Division winner :(

Would have been the 2nd most successful league title winner in English Football history

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Post by leic white 63 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:29 pm

bitd we was known as the bridesmaids. should have won a lot more than we actually did and certainly would have done if it wasnt for certain cheating individuals and bribery. to anyone who actually didnt know thats why we sing we are the champions, champions of europe bit of tongue in cheek really because in our eyes and in our hearts we would have won the european cup if it wasnt for being cheated out of it. words cant describe how good that side actually was . they was that good every gran in the land bitd could have named that side ! enough said.

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by 1964white » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:04 pm

Cjay wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:59 pm
No i know, i can only go on what im told. :)

Like i can watch the games and i can see yes they were physical but they played some lovely stuff, not just a "dirty" side at all i can see that for myself.

But the "cheated" stuff i can only go on what people like you and others say, other fans would call it paranoia and sour grapes tiz all im saying, not saying it is at all, just i can see both sides because i dont have 1st hand knowledge.

I can see from reading we were runner up a heck of a lot.

3 FA Cups, an INter City Fairs Cup, 5 league titles!!!!!!1

Had things been a bit different Revie would have been a 4 time FA Cup WInner and a 8 time First Division winner :(

Would have been the 2nd most successful league title winner in English Football history
We appeared in four FA Cup Finals & not robbed in any of them

Liverpool - awful cup final
Chelsea - outplayed them at Wembley & in the replay at Old Trafford, an unfortunate defeat
Arsenal - we won
Sunderland - just a bad day at the office

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by BobHirst » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:14 pm

Cjay wrote:
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SOme people would call that paranoia though.

Not saying it is, but can you really be robbed that many times, or does there come a point where you have to admit the club just underachieved?
I was there to see it and I believe you are mostly correct. Leeds were hated and there were some very dubious decisions went against them. At the same time they definitely under achieved given the quality of the team. You have to give Revie a lot of credit for getting the team to the top but by the same reasoning he has to be accountable for not winning more.

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by leic white 63 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:17 pm

1964white wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:04 pm
We appeared in three FA Cup Finals & not robbed in any of them

Liverpool - awful cup final
Chelsea - outplayed them at Wembley & in the replay at Old Trafford, an unfortunate defeat
Arsenal - we won
Sunderland - just a bad day at the office
perfectly summed up .

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by Cjay » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:20 pm

1964white wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:04 pm
We appeared in three FA Cup Finals & not robbed in any of them

Chelsea - outplayed them at Wembley & in the replay at Old Trafford, an unfortunate defeat
Arsenal - we won
Sunderland - just a bad day at the office
Says we were runners up in 64/65 69/70 and 72/73 so we must have been in 4 with the one we won?

And hurry up getting on the Brentford forum, its all stuff 20 years before i was born. :)

It was four FA Cup Finals, my mind went blank there

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by Cjay » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:23 pm

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Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:14 pm
I was there to see it and I believe you are mostly correct. Leeds were hated and there were some very dubious decisions went against them. At the same time they definitely under achieved given the quality of the team. You have to give Revie a lot of credit for getting the team to the top but by the same reasoning he has to be accountable for not winning more.
Thats sort of what i thought.

Yes there may have been some dodgy moments and decisions.

But so many runners up places, at some point it surely means that given the quality of the side then it has to be said that the Revie side did underachieve.

Did some great things, had some awful luck, but could and maybe should have won so much more?

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Re: Other fans opinions

Post by billie1 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:46 pm

Cjay wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:20 pm
Says we were runners up in 64/65 69/70 and 72/73 so we must have been in 4 with the one we won?

And hurry up getting on the Brentford forum, its all stuff 20 years before i was born. :)
Leeds lost the 65 FA cup final 2 - 1 against Liverpool after extra time .

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