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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by 1964white » Mon May 14, 2018 6:59 am

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But why the hell do we want a defender from a relegated side?? free or not.....

This is one of the good things Orta has done, it's not about backing him,it is about Hecky whinging in public again. If there is to be solidarity in the management, we should not have known about this... So who bleated to the press?
Unsure how good, average or bad Yiadom is ?

Three things I do know is :

He was captain of a relegated team

If he is that good why is he free ?

We have two decent right-backs in Ayling & Coyle, you can throw Berardi in the mix too !

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by danhirons » Mon May 14, 2018 7:45 am

huddersfield bid 3 mill for him last summer so he must be at least half decent

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by lufc1304 » Mon May 14, 2018 8:18 am

And so it starts. Feckingarse looking to his old, relegated side for players. Is that the breadth of his player knowledge? We can do better than this and we can do better than him. I despair :(
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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by Gandalf » Mon May 14, 2018 10:01 am

OK, so Yiadom is free because he is out of contract. He is right footed, and has predominantly played at right back, but he has appeared for Barnsley occasionally at left back. The theory seems to be that we are looking at him for the left back slot, as we have decent cover at right back. If that is the case then Orta is correct to overrule Heck, as we don't want a right footed player at left back. Hence the rumours of the big German from Union Berlin. It's probably all bollocks pushed by twatter.
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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by faaip » Mon May 14, 2018 10:20 am

Gandalf wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 10:01 am
OK, so Yiadom is free because he is out of contract. He is right footed, and has predominantly played at right back, but he has appeared for Barnsley occasionally at left back. The theory seems to be that we are looking at him for the left back slot, as we have decent cover at right back. If that is the case then Orta is correct to overrule Heck, as we don't want a right footed player at left back. Hence the rumours of the big German from Union Berlin. It's probably all bollocks pushed by twatter.
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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by Richard » Mon May 14, 2018 12:38 pm

The point about Yiadom is PH wants him and the powers that be say no. If they don’t trust his judgement he shouldn’t be in charge. Back him or sack him, questions are raised about Yiadom but we can waste money on Sacko, Klich, Cibiki, Lonergan, CBJ, Grot, De Bock and Anita and to some it seems Orta is doing a decent job.. Oh and don’t get me started on the joke of a Japanese player who we have signed.

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by 1964white » Mon May 14, 2018 12:46 pm

Richard wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 12:38 pm
The point about Yiadom is PH wants him and the powers that be say no. If they don’t trust his judgement he shouldn’t be in charge. Back him or sack him, questions are raised about Yiadom but we can waste money on Sacko, Klich, Cibiki, Lonergan, CBJ, Grot, De Bock and Anita and to some it seems Orta is doing a decent job.. Oh and don’t get me started on the joke of a Japanese player who we have signed.
The powers that be know best Richard, the past record is proven.....very impressive :roll:

So now they are undermining the coach whom they employed & have obviously decided to allow him to remain in the hot seat :o you couldn't write this stuff :?

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by faaip » Mon May 14, 2018 1:01 pm

Assuming it's true ...

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by SG90 » Tue May 15, 2018 9:55 pm

Hope the club say no to Yiadom, he's not good enough and would be a waste of money.

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by 1964white » Wed May 16, 2018 6:42 am

What is the point of this signing when we already probably have four better full-backs in Ayling, Coyle, Berardi & Pearce

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by SG90 » Wed May 16, 2018 11:17 am

1964white wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 6:42 am
What is the point of this signing when we already probably have four better full-backs in Ayling, Coyle, Berardi & Pearce
Because Hecky doesn't know anything beyond Barnsley. McBurnie isn't good enough either.

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by SG90 » Wed May 16, 2018 1:48 pm

Abel Hernandez on a free. Good to see the club have been listening to me. ;-)

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by Brader » Wed May 16, 2018 3:58 pm

There’s about 10 clubs in for Hernandez - Newcastle / Spartac Moscow rumoured to be two so I wouldn’t see it happening

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by Brader » Wed May 16, 2018 4:00 pm

Richard wrote:
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don’t get me started on the joke of a Japanese player who we have signed.
You mean that 21 year old that none of us have ever seen play yet that’s in the provisional Japan World Cup squad

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by Norm » Wed May 16, 2018 4:10 pm

The worrying thing for me is, we're here debating the rights and wrongs of individual players who may or may not be worth a crap, but in reality we're back to the manager (or Head Coach). Heck may be an average manager (at best), able to cope with a limited budget and limited players, but he's never had the imagination or experience of anything better. Even if we did get some serious talent in, would he know how to encourage, meld and manage them? We don't know but I'm going to doubt it until I see proof.

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by faaip » Wed May 16, 2018 4:20 pm

I think he's probably a good coach, the man at home in a tracksuit. Whether he can manage the team is another issue.

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by fred » Wed May 16, 2018 6:43 pm

Norm wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:10 pm
The worrying thing for me is, we're here debating the rights and wrongs of individual players who may or may not be worth a crap, but in reality we're back to the manager (or Head Coach). Heck may be an average manager (at best), able to cope with a limited budget and limited players, but he's never had the imagination or experience of anything better. Even if we did get some serious talent in, would he know how to encourage, meld and manage them? We don't know but I'm going to doubt it until I see proof.
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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by Richard » Wed May 16, 2018 7:51 pm

Brader wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:00 pm
You mean that 21 year old that none of us have ever seen play yet that’s in the provisional Japan World Cup squad
I mean the one that struggled to get selected for a Spanish second division team managing 5 appearances or 107 minutes in total, not even making the bench for the last three games and subsequently has been left out the last two Japanese Internationals and might not even make the plane to Russia, that one ;-)

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Re: Summer Transfers and Squad Discussion

Post by Brader » Thu May 17, 2018 7:11 am

Richard wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:51 pm
I mean the one that struggled to get selected for a Spanish second division team managing 5 appearances or 107 minutes in total, not even making the bench for the last three games and subsequently has been left out the last two Japanese Internationals and might not even make the plane to Russia, that one ;-)
I’m willing to wait before I make a judgement.
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