Just listened to that Fred....Thank You. Sounds very promising
San Francisco Forty Niners buy 10% of LUFC
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Re: San Francisco Forty Niners buy 10% of LUFC
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Sounds very promising
Good to hear Radz/Kinnear & co admit they messed up last season
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/spor ... 49ers.html
Not keen on this at all.
Was hoping to get rid of them.
Took advantage of Radz desperation and invested no more to help.
Now want a bigger piece of the cash cow.
Not keen on this at all.
Was hoping to get rid of them.
Took advantage of Radz desperation and invested no more to help.
Now want a bigger piece of the cash cow.
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My only complaint, living in Southern California is that I hate the 49ers. Wish they'd picked a different team. But it has to be good commercially. Pump more money into the club. Radrizzani will keep controlling interest - he said that about any future investors.Cjay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:02 pm https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/spor ... 49ers.html
Not keen on this at all.
Was hoping to get rid of them.
Took advantage of Radz desperation and invested no more to help.
Now want a bigger piece of the cash cow.
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Great news...even for a Raider fan
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Re: San Francisco Forty Niners buy 10% of LUFC
I think you’re being harsh Cjay. We need extra money and if they want to increase their stake in the club then it is going to cost much more now than two months ago.Cjay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:02 pm https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/spor ... 49ers.html
Not keen on this at all.
Was hoping to get rid of them.
Took advantage of Radz desperation and invested no more to help.
Now want a bigger piece of the cash cow.
They invested early in Radrizzani’s ownership. You couldn’t have expected them to get involved before that. Even then they needed to see that he wasn’t another crackpot.
By all accounts they have helped to sharpen the commercial performance of the club in particular and are talking about long term involvement. If they take another 10% it will be three time the price it was previously (according to Radrizzani). This is the transfer money we need urgently. More importantly, no one else is galloping in over the horizon with lorry loads of cash! Take it, take learnings from a giant of American sport and let Radrizzani at the wheel - sorted!
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Club valued at 300 million now apparently. Another 10% = 30 million. Of course, we can't spend that on transfers due to FFP, but it's good money regardless.Boo Radley wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:50 pm I think you’re being harsh Cjay. We need extra money and if they want to increase their stake in the club then it is going to cost much more now than two months ago.
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Only 5M less than they're paying Jimmy G next season ..cheap
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Why do you hate the 49ers.....just curiousandrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:13 pm My only complaint, living in Southern California is that I hate the 49ers. Wish they'd picked a different team. But it has to be good commercially. Pump more money into the club. Radrizzani will keep controlling interest - he said that about any future investors.
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12 months ago Radz said in an interview multiple parties were ready to invest(including QSI ).Boo Radley wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:50 pm I think you’re being harsh Cjay. We need extra money and if they want to increase their stake in the club then it is going to cost much more now than two months ago.
They invested early in Radrizzani’s ownership. You couldn’t have expected them to get involved before that. Even then they needed to see that he wasn’t another crackpot.
By all accounts they have helped to sharpen the commercial performance of the club in particular and are talking about long term involvement. If they take another 10% it will be three time the price it was previously (according to Radrizzani). This is the transfer money we need urgently. More importantly, no one else is galloping in over the horizon with lorry loads of cash! Take it, take learnings from a giant of American sport and let Radrizzani at the wheel - sorted!
Just makes me nervous.
They invested originally because we were pretty desperate. To the point where had we not been promoted the 49ers stake in the club increased without them needing to spend another cent.
Radz only a few weeks ago basically called on the 49ers to "step up". They been here 2 years and invested no more than there original buy in and Radz felt he had to call them out in public subtly? Thats a red flag to me.
At the end of the day we aren't talking about the supremely wealthy owners of the 49ers, this is the investment arm which is ran by that guy who did the interview who is very much a numbers guy by all accounts.
They will invest as little as they can to make as much as possible. Had we not been promoted we wouldn't have seen another dollar and they would have kept their stake while investing nothing until such a time as they can make a profit.
Essentially they are a venture capital fund, we dont need more people just looking to make as much out of the club as they can for as little as possible imo.
NFL owned English football clubs never seem to work out.
Lerner at Villa
Glazers at Manure
Khan at Fulham
Kroenke at Arsenal.
Thats when owned personally, how much better will an investment arm be?
Id just rather someone else (not necessarily QSI) or even Radz alone.
Hopefully your positive outlook is right bud, ive had a bad feeling about this from the start and it hasnt eased.
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Its a Southerb California thing, My NFL team is actually the Bills, not the Rams or the Chargers. But I'm big on the LA Kings, LA Dodgers, LA Lakers. And all have big rivalries up north. So, even though I'm not big into NFL, I've always disliked San Francisco in any sport.
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Um...Manure under the Glazers have won 5 prem titles, a Champions league and 6 other cups. Fulham are better under Khan who I have a lot of time for. Lerner was a poor NFL franchise owner, that happens.
Niners are the 5th richest NFL franchise owned by the York family, made the Superbowl last season and made around 500 million dollars. Denise York is worth around 3.5 billion and the frachise itself is also worth around 3.5 billion. Her son Jed is the current CEO.
That said I think it's the organisation that's investing in Leeds not the York family directly and I don't think there are any plans to take us over full time by buying a controlling share
Niners are the 5th richest NFL franchise owned by the York family, made the Superbowl last season and made around 500 million dollars. Denise York is worth around 3.5 billion and the frachise itself is also worth around 3.5 billion. Her son Jed is the current CEO.
That said I think it's the organisation that's investing in Leeds not the York family directly and I don't think there are any plans to take us over full time by buying a controlling share
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Manure have been saddled with tons of debt and fans are hardly keen on them.
Fulham were an established Premier league club when Khan arrived. Qualified for Europe, finished top 10 4 times in the previous 6 years pre Khan. Relegated the season he took over, and have spent 5 of his 6 years in the Championship after over a decade in the Prem.
Venture capital arm of the 49ers, this isnt the 49ers owners themselves.
They will only invest to buy a stake and not a penny more.
Fulham were an established Premier league club when Khan arrived. Qualified for Europe, finished top 10 4 times in the previous 6 years pre Khan. Relegated the season he took over, and have spent 5 of his 6 years in the Championship after over a decade in the Prem.
Venture capital arm of the 49ers, this isnt the 49ers owners themselves.
They will only invest to buy a stake and not a penny more.
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The Manure thing is just how football business works at times. As a club they have a brand value of 3.85 billion dollars and the debt (60M I think) has been coming down last few years. Barcelona have been in massive debt for longer than I can remember, around 888 Euros at the moment. We'd be in debt if QVC bought us, they'd borrow on expectation. PSG were 130M in debt til recently, and they're around the same as Manure atm
I'm fine with whatever investment SF want to put in.
I'm fine with whatever investment SF want to put in.
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Actually Forbes has just released it top 50 yesterday - Most Valuable Sports franchises - MU come in tenth(3.85 Billion) behind Real Madrid who have gotten their debt under control and Barcelona who haven't..but no one cares about the Barcelona debt it seems. Man City/ Bayern/Chelsea and Arsenal are also top 50 but toward the bottom with City being 34th over 1 billion less valuable than their rivals..
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Just out of curiosity, who are the four above them in terms of $$$ then faaip ?faaip wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:29 am Um...Manure under the Glazers have won 5 prem titles, a Champions league and 6 other cups. Fulham are better under Khan who I have a lot of time for. Lerner was a poor NFL franchise owner, that happens.
Niners are the 5th richest NFL franchise owned by the York family, made the Superbowl last season and made around 500 million dollars. Denise York is worth around 3.5 billion and the frachise itself is also worth around 3.5 billion. Her son Jed is the current CEO.
That said I think it's the organisation that's investing in Leeds not the York family directly and I don't think there are any plans to take us over full time by buying a controlling share
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If you'd asked me to guess I would have said the 49ers were 2nd or 3rdMuppet the Cat wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:15 pm Just out of curiosity, who are the four above them in terms of $$$ then faaip ?
Cowboys, Patriots, Gians, Rams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27 ... orts_teams
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Wealth doesn’t necessarily equate to success in the NFL then, as to the extent it does in football.andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:25 pm If you'd asked me to guess I would have said the 49ers were 2nd or 3rd
Cowboys, Patriots, Gians, Rams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27 ... orts_teams
As, with the exception of NE have any of those teams won the Super Bowl in the last 10yrs ?
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The Giants have won a couple of Superbowls this centuryMuppet the Cat wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:39 pm Wealth doesn’t necessarily equate to success in the NFL then, as to the extent it does in football.
As, with the exception of NE have any of those teams won the Super Bowl in the last 10yrs ?
The Cowboys success was in the 1990's but they're "America's team" and the definition of a brand
When you look at the Rams (LA), the 49ers (SF), the Giants (NY) they definitely benefit from being in the biggest markets. One major difference in the NFL is that you don't have to be successful. There's no promotion or relegation so you can afford to get rid of all your best players one year, take a dive. The draft helps as a leveller. Many teams will intentionally have a bad year because it gets them better picks the following season.
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This is spot on. Because there is no relegation in the major American sports leagues, you can have a poor squad and still make a significant amount of money. Hence, the Detroit Lions and the Cleveland Browns.andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:54 pm The Giants have won a couple of Superbowls this century
The Cowboys success was in the 1990's but they're "America's team" and the definition of a brand
When you look at the Rams (LA), the 49ers (SF), the Giants (NY) they definitely benefit from being in the biggest markets. One major difference in the NFL is that you don't have to be successful. There's no promotion or relegation so you can afford to get rid of all your best players one year, take a dive. The draft helps as a leveller. Many teams will intentionally have a bad year because it gets them better picks the following season.
I don't have a problem at all with some investor spending money on Leeds simply because they want to make a profit because there's only one way to make a profit in English football: put a winning team on the pitch. Winning sells not only tickets but merchandise, and with the EPL's and Leeds United's world-wide marketing clout, the club stand to make a lot of money selling jerseys and scarves. There's a reason why Adidas is interested now but weren't a year ago.
So by all means, let's make a profit.