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Re: Transfers. Signings Rumours and Wishes.

Post by Genghers » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:19 am

How good is Josefzoon? Not made a huge number of appearance's wherever he's been.

We definitely need pace - preferably some with a bit of end product...

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Post by whiteswan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:15 am

Sky news just reporting the same, saying Leeds have matched Derby's offer...source close to the player says he would prefer Leeds, but we shall see

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Post by faaip » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:32 am

Alejandro Machuca loaned out season long to Burgos FC in Spain's third division
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

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Post by faaip » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:32 am

At this rate we may need to re-tool the U23's

Out on loan

Jay-Roy Grot (2021) - season long at VVV Venlo (Holland)
Lewis Coyle (2020) - six months at Fleetwood Town (UK)
Pawel Cibicki - Season long at Molde (Norway)
Tyler Denton - Season long to Peterborough (UK)
Paudie O'Conner - season long to Blackpool (UK)
Malik Wilks - Six months to Doncaster (UK)
Alejandro Machuca - Season long to Burgos FC (Spain)
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

"objective fan" - is that a consistent oxymoron?"

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Re: Transfers. Signings Rumours and Wishes.

Post by Gurj » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:32 pm

whiteswan wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:15 am
Sky news just reporting the same, saying Leeds have matched Derby's offer...source close to the player says he would prefer Leeds, but we shall see
Unfortunately now confirmed, Jozefzoon is going to derby on a 4 year contract.

Yet another we have lost out on.

This pre-season is becoming an utter shambles in terms of player recruitment !
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Post by faaip » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:49 pm

Seems to have been a last second approach from us, they seldom work.
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

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Post by Cjay » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:57 pm

Wondering who actually sits down and does negotiations.

Always assumed Orta, could be Kinnear, whoever it is has a worrying habit of starting negotiations they cant complete.

Angus Gunn, David Stockdale, Matej Vydra, Abel Hernandez, Florian Jozefzoon.

Derby came in, got there man in days, we spend weeks even months and still end up empty handed.

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Post by faaip » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:03 pm

We may circle back round for Hernandez and or Vydra
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

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Re: Transfers. Signings Rumours and Wishes.

Post by Richard » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:47 pm

Gurj wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:32 pm
Unfortunately now confirmed, Jozefzoon is going to derby on a 4 year contract.

Yet another we have lost out on.

This pre-season is becoming an utter shambles in terms of player recruitment !
Reports stating the persuasive powers of Lampard were the deciding factor, so much for us going all out for a world renown coach who everyone respects.

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Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:07 pm

Why am I not surprised ?

A leopard never changes it's spots

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Post by Cjay » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:19 pm

Richard wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:47 pm
Reports stating the persuasive powers of Lampard were the deciding factor, so much for us going all out for a world renown coach who everyone respects.
Not surprised.

6th placed club with a good squad and a manager who players today will remember as a great player or an average midtable team with a poor to average squad whose manager though respected in the right circles is an unknown to the average player here.

Plus Derby pay better wages.

Not knocking Bielsa but if Radz believed that his name alone would be enough then he is seriously misguided.
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Re: Transfers. Signings Rumours and Wishes.

Post by faaip » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:51 pm

Richard wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:47 pm
Reports stating the persuasive powers of Lampard were the deciding factor, so much for us going all out for a world renown coach who everyone respects.
Lampard could be complete junk as a manager. Ex footballers in first jobs usually crash and burn
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Re: Transfers. Signings Rumours and Wishes.

Post by Gurj » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:29 pm

Richard wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:47 pm
Reports stating the persuasive powers of Lampard were the deciding factor, so much for us going all out for a world renown coach who everyone respects.
Difference is he probably never even got the opportunity to speak to Bielsa ( through an interpreter ) as no doubt Orta and Kinnear probably did all the negotiating. Say no more :-(
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Post by whiteswan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:37 pm

Beginning to get more than a little hacked off with our club management.....I've said very little on recruitment hoping they would pleasantly surprise us but I'm beginning to think that some of you are right :x

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Post by Richard » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:47 pm

Gurj wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:29 pm
Difference is he probably never even got the opportunity to speak to Bielsa ( through an interpreter ) as no doubt Orta and Kinnear probably did all the negotiating. Say no more :-(
Must admit, I overlooked this possible fact :tup:

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Post by Cjay » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:02 pm

Abel Herbandez would have cost with everything taken into account . . 100k a week.

It took us months to find this out.

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Post by Muppet the Cat » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:22 pm

Cjay wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:19 pm
Not surprised.

6th placed club with a good squad and a manager who players today will remember as a great player or an average midtable team with a poor to average squad whose manager though respected in the right circles is an unknown to the average player here.

Plus Derby pay better wages.

Not knocking Bielsa but if Radz believed that his name alone would be enough then he is seriously misguided.
Absolutely spot on.

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Post by rab_rant » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:57 am

1964white wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:07 pm
Why am I not surprised ?

A leopard never changes it's spots
Neither does a Lampard.
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Post by weasel » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:03 am

Cjay wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:19 pm
Not knocking Bielsa but if Radz believed that his name alone would be enough then he is seriously misguided.
I doubt the player's sole decision to move to Derby was based on Lampard being manager. The player is though obviously going to say good things about his new boss when asked. Blackman (our new GK) in his interviews after signing for us was saying that everyone at Chelsea was saying to go to Leeds and learn from Bielsa and how it was a great opportunity etc.

I think that permanent signings will go to whoever gives them most money but Bielsa will certainly give us more pull with loan signings as the parent club will want their players to develop under Bielsa.
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Post by Richard » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:56 pm

weasel wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:03 am
I doubt the player's sole decision to move to Derby was based on Lampard being manager. The player is though obviously going to say good things about his new boss when asked. Blackman (our new GK) in his interviews after signing for us was saying that everyone at Chelsea was saying to go to Leeds and learn from Bielsa and how it was a great opportunity etc.

I think that permanent signings will go to whoever gives them most money but Bielsa will certainly give us more pull with loan signings as the parent club will want their players to develop under Bielsa.
So far Derby have done better than us too in the loan market. Cjay hit the nail on the head, we’re not an attractive club at the moment, players see us as an average Championship team lacking quality.

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