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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by faaip » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:54 am

NorfolkWhite wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:25 am
Saw a lot of positive comments on other social media, guess everyone sees games slightly differently. Must have been a fantastic atmosphere though, sounded fantastic on TV.
I marked him down for 2 missed tackles, twice giving the ball away in critical areas and the error alongside Beradi for the goal. He easily had the best chance to clear that and bodged it badly. Plus the two footed lunge. Most of the good passing from the back came from Coop and Klich
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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by faaip » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:59 am

rab_rant wrote:
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What do Leeds PLayers wear under their shirts... Stoke fans want to know... some great ideas.
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thr ... yers-shirt
apart from the obligatory bent ref post, very complimentary
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by 1964white » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:03 am

What a stunning performance

Positives

Klich - top quality footballer, we lost control & possession of the ball once MK was subbed
Saiz - back to his very best
Cooper - wow where did that come from including a delightful glancing headed goal
Roofe - ran his socks off, great movement off the ball
Phillips - so many tackles & interceptions, impressive in his new role
Douglas - lovely debut from a proper left-back, the kop already have a song for Barry
Hernandez - the old magician continues to wave his magic wand
Ayling - all over the park giving his all as usual
Alioski - I'm his biggest critic but he actually showed some quality yesterday
Our bench - what a difference, Pontus, Bamford & Roberts didn't even get a kick
Discipline - much improved, no rolling around or waving of yellow cards from Saiz & Alioski
Game plan - every player knew what was expected of them & played for each other
Movement - can't remember so much movement on & off the ball from a Leeds side
Passing - always someone looking for the ball & waiting for a pass
Creativity - we could have scored seven
Pressing - rarely allowed Stoke players to settle on the ball. Ince really spat his dummy out
Defending - rarely looked in danger against a £20m attack
Goals - first time we've scored three goals since 20th January v Millwall (& still got beat)
Points - three points always welcome on the first day of any season
Atmosphere - the kop is back with a vengeance, my god it was loud with some mental scenes too
Bielsa - when all around him were going bonkers he remained as cool as a cucumber hardly moving an inch, he swayed momentary & that was all the emotion on show, meanwhile Rowett was jumping around like a demented monkey trying to urge his players on :monkey:

Negatives

Two knobheads running on the pitch, that's their season over

Overall

Always special being a Leeds fan but on days such as yesterday, it was truly awesome

I can't show any criticism after a performance like that, a first in many years. I may have overrated some of my marks however the players deserve their high scores for giving us much hope for the rest of the season

7 Peacock-Farrell
8 Ayling
7 Berardi
9 Phillips
9 Cooper
9 Douglas
9 Klich MOTM
9 Saiz
9 Hernandez
8 Alioski
9 Roofe

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by faaip » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:19 am

Beradi obviously not a great game out of position but I did enjoy him twice out leap their CF to head clear ....It's often the case tall men don't jump well and small guys get more height. Would love to know Beradi's vertical.
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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by 1964white » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:23 am

faaip wrote:
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Beradi obviously not a great game out of position but I did enjoy him twice out leap their CF to head clear ....It's often the case tall men don't jump well and small guys get more height. Would love to know Beradi's vertical.
Berardi made a couple of serious errors but his tenacity, energy & passion was there to be seen & I'll forgive him for his mistakes as I don't wish to criticise any player after what was a storming performance.

Jansson will replace Berardi in the next couple of games I suspect

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by Gurj » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:53 pm

1964white wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:23 am
Berardi made a couple of serious errors but his tenacity, energy & passion was there to be seen & I'll forgive him for his mistakes as I don't wish to criticise any player after what was a storming performance.

Jansson will replace Berardi in the next couple of games I suspect
Agree Leon, that change is inevitable and will only make us stronger. Berardi for all he's passion and fight is certainly not a centre half and as seen last season, even at RB, he is liable to make a few crucial mistakes in a game. We will need Pontus at Derby and with another week's training behind him, he should be ready.
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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by 1964white » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:02 pm

Gurj wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:53 pm
Agree Leon, that change is inevitable and will only make us stronger. Berardi for all he's passion and fight is certainly not a centre half and as seen last season, even at RB, he is liable to make a few crucial mistakes in a game. We will need Pontus at Derby and with another week's training behind him, he should be ready.
Lets hope so Gurj

Loud rendition of 'Pontus Jansson is magic' from the kop yesterday as he loosened up down the touchline

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by Gurj » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:06 pm

1964white wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:02 pm
Lets hope so Gurj

Loud rendition of 'Pontus Jansson is magic' from the kop yesterday as he loosened up down the touchline
Yes came across loud and clear that did. Fantastic support yesterday, must have made Bielsa and the new recruits think WOW !!
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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by Cjay » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:48 pm

faaip wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:58 pm
I agree with most of this but especially the Phillips post. He was not great today and I also think that challenge on another day is a straight red. It was absolutely two footed
Agreed.

There were 2 or 3 things that Kalvin did that could have ended very differently.

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by John in Louisiana » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:23 pm

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I just hope we are able to keep this kind of passionate display up for Bielsa - he is a hard taskmaster and so fitness will be massive. the Championship really is the proverbial marathon and therefore it will be hard for these players to perform this style of football twice in a week therefore strength in depth will be key and I thought our bench looked strongest it has for years yesterday but well know suspensions and injuries can bite hard. Fingers crossed we are not hit too hard - if we can sustain that level of performance, teams will once again dread coming to Elland Road, as they did in the days of old.
That was the truly encouraging thing about yesterday's game: we had a bunch of players who were expected to be starters riding the bench for one reason or another. Put Forshaw, Bamford, and Pontus into the mix and we look pretty strong assuming, of course, people can continue playing to the level they attained yesterday. Not getting too excited yet, but the coffe in my MOT mug is tasting better today than it has in a while.

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by Richard » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:40 pm

faaip wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:59 am
apart from the obligatory bent ref post, very complimentary
On Sky, they showed Bielsa walking over to the new conditioning coach and looking at a laptop, shortly after he subbed Klich, I’d highly suspect it was a graph of ground covered and health trackers.

Nice to know we’re looking into every tool available to improve team performance

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by 1964white » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:23 am

Richard wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:40 pm
On Sky, they showed Bielsa walking over to the new conditioning coach and looking at a laptop, shortly after he subbed Klich, I’d highly suspect it was a graph of ground covered and health trackers.

Nice to know we’re looking into every tool available to improve team performance
The fact of the matter remains we lost control of the game once Klich was taken off almost resorting to last season's style of play in the last fifteen minutes

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by Genghers » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:31 am

1964white wrote:
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The fact of the matter remains we lost control of the game once Klich was taken off almost resorting to last season's style of play in the last fifteen minutes
He was replaced by Dallas though who was then playing out of position.

Once Forshaw is back it'll be like for like positionally and quality-wise. It does make the decision to sell Vieira look more short-sighted at the moment though, and shows a clear flaw in the 'lean squad' approach...

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by 1964white » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:48 am

Genghers wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:31 am
He was replaced by Dallas though who was then playing out of position.

Once Forshaw is back it'll be like for like positionally and quality-wise. It does make the decision to sell Vieira look more short-sighted at the moment though, and shows a clear flaw in the 'lean squad' approach...
Bearing in mind Crouch came on I'd have thought bringing on Pontus & push Phillips up into midfield would be the better option

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by Genghers » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:53 am

Phillips was in midfield already though as we were playing 4 at the back. Could have gone Pontus and move Berardi up, but that's still someone out of position.

CM has to be a priority today/in the loan window.

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by Richard » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:32 am

1964white wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:23 am
The fact of the matter remains we lost control of the game once Klich was taken off almost resorting to last season's style of play in the last fifteen minutes
It shows how vitally important each player is in their role, one little cog get it wrong and the big wheel doesn’t turn as well..

Firstly once fit, that would have been Forshaw coming on, I think that would have been like for like, secondly how much was it the entire team starting to flag heat and all things considered and Stoke 3-1 down thinking throw everything at it?

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by weasel » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:36 pm

1964white wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:23 am
The fact of the matter remains we lost control of the game once Klich was taken off almost resorting to last season's style of play in the last fifteen minutes
We did but equally we could have had 10 outfield players all running on fumes (with perhaps Klich having slowed down the most according to the computer) - you also have the fact that with Stoke 3-1 down they had to gamble more and as is usually the case when that happens they attack more and dominate the match with the team that has the lead usually only a threat on the break.

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Re: Leeds United versus Stoke City - Official Match day thread

Post by faaip » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:14 pm

Highlights

https://www.leedsunited.com/video/98200 ... highlights

Just noticed at the start of that Wee Gordon greets Marcelo as he comes out ...nice
BPF - Beradi - Jansson - Forshaw - Cooper - Douglas - Hernandez - Klich - Saiz - Roofe - Clarke

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