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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by SG90 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:36 pm

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Arguably the best coach in the championship.

I defy anyone to name a better one ?

Holloway on the new football show on Quest reckons he is premiership class
I said all last season that these players were more than good enough and we just needed a top manager to go alongside them.

I'm worried a PL club will throw money at him when a manager is inevitably sacked in a few games.

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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by radebe88 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:38 pm

BPF - 5 - At fault for the goal and is awful coming of his line. Most overrated youngster in a long time.

Ayling - 8 - gets up and down the pitch with ease and was comfortable att and and def
Berardi - 8 - I think I prefer him at CB. Solid again today and forced to play the simple ball in that position
Cooper - 9 - This could be his season to show his leadership! Solid
Douglas - 7 - so assured on the ball but looks a little shaken when defending for me

Phillips - 7 - I was his biggest critic last season but he has started ok. Still leaves himself stranded lunging in but improving
Klich - 9 - THE POLISH PIRLO. Brilliant pressing, superb on the ball. Love the man

Hernandez - 8 - so neat and tidy. Was oozing class
Saiz - 9 - quite funny at times watching tv Derby players run around trying to get near him
Alioski - 8- worked really hard and pops up in the right places

Roofe - 10 - his best performance in a Leeds shirt. Amazing last week too and deserves the 2 goals

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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by faaip » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:42 pm

Yeah we did, they were s**t
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by Muppet the Cat » Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:26 pm

Didn't see the game as away, but having just read through all the posts sounds as if was another terrific performance :tup: :)

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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by HarryofOz » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:03 am

A complete performance. Even better than last week.

Apart from the quality of our football what impressed me was the willingness to make themselves available for a pass. Whoever has the ball always had options to pass to. It shows a great confidence in themselves, not hiding away to avoid getting the ball.

And it really looked like there were more Leeds than Derby players on the field. Whenever there was a loose ball, we were almost always there first.
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by rab_rant » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:33 am

paddy parrott wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:57 pm
Good observations Weasel , agree with you mate once more it's imperative we Leeds fans remain calm and support the team and players he squad of players . We should not underestimate anyone especially our own team of players . We are our own worst enemy and should never get on their backs.
The one thing I don't like about the fans attitude is when they start singing
Leeds Leeds are falling apart again It is supposed to be ironic and funny
but when we do play badly the opposition fans then start singing it and it
it then has the most devastating demoralising effect.

I wish Bielsa would come straight out and condemn it as not being constructive
as the opposition can then easily use it as a stick for our backs.

Why not sing Leeds Leeds are ripping you apart again that would be
more appropriate when the lads are turning in a spectacular performance
and would certainly give the players a boost and make them feel good about
themselves.

I hope I never hear that falling apart chant ever again... from neither our own fans
or the opposition.
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by weasel » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:56 am

HarryofOz wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:03 am
A complete performance. Even better than last week.

Apart from the quality of our football what impressed me was the willingness to make themselves available for a pass. Whoever has the ball always had options to pass to. It shows a great confidence in themselves, not hiding away to avoid getting the ball.

And it really looked like there were more Leeds than Derby players on the field. Whenever there was a loose ball, we were almost always there first.
This will be key when we play teams that are more used to 'getting stuck in' such as Millwall and possibly other teams that will look at what happened to us last year. It is so crucial that when we play these matches we have players still wanting the ball at all times, still giving our player in possession the same options.

It is a noticeable trait of all top teams that the loose balls, clearances etc seem to always fall to their players - it isn't coincidence but players being told where to be at all times and that despite us playing with great freedom the players are all working incredibly hard whether we are in possession or not. It has a huge demoralising effect on a team when every clearance sees the ball coming back at them as they simply don't get chance to play themselves into a match and don't have time to think but have to continually react as the ball keeps coming back at them.
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by weasel » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:02 am

rab_rant wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:33 am
The one thing I don't like about the fans attitude is when they start singing
Leeds Leeds are falling apart again It is supposed to be ironic and funny
but when we do play badly the opposition fans then start singing it and it
it then has the most devastating demoralising effect.

I wish Bielsa would come straight out and condemn it as not being constructive
as the opposition can then easily use it as a stick for our backs.

Why not sing Leeds Leeds are ripping you apart again that would be
more appropriate when the lads are turning in a spectacular performance
and would certainly give the players a boost and make them feel good about
themselves.

I hope I never hear that falling apart chant ever again... from neither our own fans
or the opposition.
Agree 100%. A great joke at the start but simply not funny any more. Similarly I hate the 'you're sh*t' one that continually gets sung at the opposition keeper on goal kicks despite the keeper having made successful kick after successful kick - makes us just look like a tin-pot club in my eyes.
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by Norm » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:13 am

SG90 wrote:

I said all last season that these players were more than good enough and we just needed a top manager to go alongside them.
faaip's mantra and I agree with it. You can't blame the players when the coach has no plan.
SG90 wrote:
I'm worried a PL club will throw money at him when a manager is inevitably sacked in a few games.
I think he'll have more integrity than that. Leeds United represents a real challenge for him to prove beyond all doubt that he is as good as the top people (whom he has taught) allege.

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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:40 am

rab_rant wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:33 am
The one thing I don't like about the fans attitude is when they start singing
Leeds Leeds are falling apart again It is supposed to be ironic and funny
but when we do play badly the opposition fans then start singing it and it
it then has the most devastating demoralising effect.

I wish Bielsa would come straight out and condemn it as not being constructive
as the opposition can then easily use it as a stick for our backs.

Why not sing Leeds Leeds are ripping you apart again that would be
more appropriate when the lads are turning in a spectacular performance
and would certainly give the players a boost and make them feel good about
themselves.

I hope I never hear that falling apart chant ever again... from neither our own fans
or the opposition.
1000's of Leeds fans singing it with big grins on their faces aimed at the Derby fans :) ironic just like us singing "we all hate Leeds scum"
Doesn't worry me & I'm pretty sure our players see the funny side of it. some have joined in with the ironic chants in the past. I draw a line with the horrible Jimmy Saville songs

Hard to be too critical of our magnificent support, I see the same faces at aways every game, they have been there for Leeds over the last fifteen years during a period when it has been truly shocking watching poor football, they could have walked away or like some of our telly fans whom have switch off their TV when things were bad.
Knocking the paying fans supporting Leeds doesn't lay easy with me unless their behaviour is totally unreasonable as can be the case away from the terraces

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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by HarryofOz » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:58 am

weasel wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:56 am
This will be key when we play teams that are more used to 'getting stuck in' such as Millwall and possibly other teams that will look at what happened to us last year. It is so crucial that when we play these matches we have players still wanting the ball at all times, still giving our player in possession the same options.

It is a noticeable trait of all top teams that the loose balls, clearances etc seem to always fall to their players - it isn't coincidence but players being told where to be at all times and that despite us playing with great freedom the players are all working incredibly hard whether we are in possession or not. It has a huge demoralising effect on a team when every clearance sees the ball coming back at them as they simply don't get chance to play themselves into a match and don't have time to think but have to continually react as the ball keeps coming back at them.
Absolutely - so far at least, that is a huge impact that Bielsa has brought in. The commentator for the broadcast we received here was saying that Bielsa works his teams very hard, up to three training sessions a day. And anyone who doesn't fall in with that doesn't get picked.
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by rab_rant » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:13 am

1964white wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:40 am
1000's of Leeds fans singing it with big grins on their faces aimed at the Derby fans :)
But when Bamford and Boro ripped us a new one and the opposition fans began to sing that chant
you could see the Leeds players heads drop, and a general apathy set in, because they lose belief
in their skills and abilities.

It is a horrible chant, no matter how ironic. For motivation, praise is more important than criticism.
But Leeds fans have sharp and evil tongues when it comes to criticizing, be it the Crest, or Orta, or Cooper
or O'Kane. Always ready to lay the blame at somebody else's door.

It Bielsa has worked a miracle by changing the playing style and attitudes of the players on the pitch to
be positive and energetic, would it be too much to ask that there would be a paradigm shift in the mindset
of the fans that they too would be uplifting and inspiring... they have the passion as can be witnessed each
and every week at home and away games, but who is there to direct that passion in a more positive direction?

A good song is the 12th man in the stadium... but the wrong song in the wrong hands is a sword to pierce our hearts.
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by danhirons » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:24 am

I don't think for a second of we stop singing it the opposition fans will stop so I see no problem with it.

Re bielsa, good start but let's not get carried away. TC had an amazing start as well...

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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by rab_rant » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:45 am

danhirons wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:24 am
I don't think for a second of we stop singing it the opposition fans will stop so I see no problem with it.
Of course the opposition will chant it and especially if we are loosing... opposition fans do anything to tear our team down.
The whole irony of the situation is that Joy Division were an English rock band formed in 1976 in Salford, Greater Manchester
Bars of soap should be supplied to all Leeds fans who sing this chant, so they can wash their mouths out.
I should imagine they do not want to be associated with anything from Manchester :lol:
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:01 am

Yet another stunning performance :clape:

My concern when approaching the Pride Park stadium was whether we could replicate the Stoke performance away from ER. My doubts were soon put to bed as Bielsa's same XI ran riot v Lampard's lambs

Positives

Every single player wearing the new away shirt of Leeds

Roofe was exceptional with two sublime goals, loved his header leaping like a salmon to plant the ball into the corner of the net, the type of goal you expect watching Real or Barcelona

Klich the way he controls the engine-room with his sublime skills

Saiz whose zest to get forward was too much for Derby to handle as the Leeds fans sang "Saiz is too good for you"

Phillips is everywhere tidying up the pieces

Berardi's tackles in the second-half, I could hear & feel his challenges from where I was stood, he landed on his head once & bounced straight back up again ready for the next tackle

Fitness, formation, passing, movement, goals all top drawer once again

Negatives

Hard to be critical about the performance however Peacock-Farrell should have saved the wicked dipping shot that went straight through him. Credit to the lad he got on with his job & looked comfortable after his error

Atmosphere

Always special being a Leeds fan as we outsung the Rams support
Our scintillating play soon shut the Derby fans up, I reckon their drummer boy must have made an early exit to the bar

A good friend of mine, a season-ticket holder spotted me on the telly & sent me a picture of me looking quite pensive even though I was in seventh heaven :) I'm still nervous even when we are winning, the joys of watching Leeds United :scar1

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8 Ayling
8 Berardi
8 Phillips
8 Cooper
8 Douglas
9 Klich
9 Saiz
8 Hernandez
8 Alioski
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by faaip » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:08 am

danhirons wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:24 am
I don't think for a second of we stop singing it the opposition fans will stop so I see no problem with it.

Re bielsa, good start but let's not get carried away. TC had an amazing start as well...
Massive difference imo...
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:30 am

danhirons wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:24 am
I don't think for a second of we stop singing it the opposition fans will stop so I see no problem with it.

Re bielsa, good start but let's not get carried away. TC had an amazing start as well...
Massive difference

Our three better performances under TC were against three teams that finished in the bottom six, two of them were relegated

We've comprehensively thrashed two of the play-off favourites, our performances v Stoke & Derby were better than anything we witnessed last season by a country mile

Bielsa - Premiership class perhaps World class

Christiansen - average 2nd rate coach

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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by Durly » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:36 am

Two sublime performances on the bounce.......I'm still pinching myself!
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by LUFC 1966 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:53 am

I love Bielsa ball . The bucket has spoken and we are playing sublime football for this League. Yes it is only two games but Stoke and Derby are favourites for this league so I demand the right to be excited. When I saw the start we had I thought we would be lucky to get 2 points by the end of August. The team are better for having an assured midfielder in Klich and Saiz and Roofe is proving why they spent 3 mil on him. Amazeballs
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Re: Derby County versus Leeds United Official match day thread

Post by Genghers » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:15 am

People being very harsh on BPF for the goal. Watch it back from the reverse angle and it clearly swerves all over the place. I thought he was pretty composed in general and came for crosses well.

All round a fantastic performance - can't really add to what others have said! Considering we've got Jansson to come into the starting 11 as well it's all very promising.

Re: the interviews, it's a contractual obligation with Sky that the manager conducts the pre- and post-match questions. Bielsa could just use his interpreter (as he does in full press conferences), but clearly wants to make the effort which is admirable considering he's never done post match interviews in his career and is also still in the early stage of learning English...

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