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Scoreline :West Brom v Leeds Utd

Poll ended at Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:52 pm

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one back - lovely from Saiz and Pablo
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FT 4 - 1, just got to write that one off as a collective shocker, MB included. At least he’s got a couple of weeks to analyse what went wrong and come up with some answers. No need to panic I guess but there are certainly some big questions to answer.
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This was the game I feared more than most despite their recent form. Easily the best team we have played this season. The most worrying was the way we capitulated after the second goal.
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danhirons wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:14 pm This has been coming tbf. Not played well in a long time. No penetration up front, not even looked like scoring today.

BPF howler for the second goal doesn't help, Blackman must be expecting a chance now.

Roofe did nothing right today - tbh seemed like he wanted to prove a point against his old team.

Hernandez, Dallas, Klich, Harrison when on all especially poor
Would agree 100%. Too many people saying all was rosy just because we were top of the league but it is something like 12 points from last 9 matches and that is not far off relegation production. Too many performances of late that because we have passed well in spells a lot of the poor things have been glossed over. Hopefully a big reality check and now we see how good a coach Bielsa is.
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We were very poor and deserved everything we got.

Against the quality of WBA attacks our limited Championship players like Phillips, Cooper and Dallas were always going to struggle.

Quality players will always beat well coached players if the tactics are right.

Forcing us to kick long to Roofe was clever to.

WBA are a better team individually who were tactically spot on, no complaints.

Harrison should never have been on the bench ahead of Clarke.

You can only play square pegs for so long, was always going to happen.

And BPF is shite.
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I thought these days were over.. sigh. It came from our own problems and our failure to simply shoot rather than overplaying in the box. Klich has to shoot, he doesn't they go straight up in the field. Klich slipping over rather than just passing and they get the second. Embarrassing performance all round. They simply have to turn it back around next game.
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faaip wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:19 pm Forshaw has completely changed the balance of midfield since he started for Saiz ...
Completely agree. There was one run that Forshaw did where he brought the ball forward from his own half and ran well but then when he got nearer to the WBA players he slowed down and passed it sideways (the pass was poor and we lost possession but that wasn't even the issue). The difference is that Saiz would have continued running at full speed at the WBA backline and created havoc - and yes several times he may lose the ball but it pushes the opposition back and also creates spaces for others as well as allowing the wide players to continue running at full speed so we hit the opposition at full speed rather than slowing it down.
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Yellow kit curse strikes again!
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Cup final performance from the opposition, but that doesn't excuse our shocking performance and causing our own downfall again.
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We needed Saiz and Clarke on after we went 1-0. Poor subs.
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Wow this will be difficult to mark

BPF - 6 - 2 good saves but almost zero protection from Phillips and Coop who had stinkers. At fault for the second along with Klich.

Dallas - 6 - TBH whole back line was poor bar Pontus who tried to do everyones job. I don't recall much bad but little was good either
Douglas - 7 - Was having a decent game when dragged off way to early. Guilty of overhitting crosses but everyone was

Cooper - 4 - worst performance from him this season, no leadership (he's not a leader btw) poor tackling and coverage
Phillips - 5 - Lousy positioning, allowed his man to get away from him then gave up twice for goals 1 and 4. Weak or non existent tackling Couple of nice intercepts
Jansson - 8 - One man defence today, one knock is he's still to slow transitioning defence though

Klich, - 6 - Would have been an 7 but for the error for the third, sublime movement, probably one of only two goal threats along with Roofe. Also guilty of over hit passes though, weird that today
Alio - 4 - Poor crossing and passing, gave us nothing today
Pablo - 6 - added point for the well worked goal but awful decision making all game...only looked decent when Saiz came on...Those two need each other and Roofe
Forshaw - 4 - Finished better but I don't like him playing there, lots of hospital passes the obligatory long range tame shot, little in the way of creativity. Teams don't respect or fear him as an attacking mid

Roofe - 7 - I thought he was doing ok when he got withdrawn way too early, some clever touches, got in front of defenders to collect (Roberts could not do this) 2/3 half chances blocked, another missing Saiz because Forshaw doesn't see the movement. Not his fault we decided to play hoofball.

Saiz - 7 - Love his work, big fan. Needs to start. Attracts players to him like a magnet, frees up space for others, vision and touch is matchless when on form at this club
Roberts - 3 - Got half an hour, not sure he even touched the ball, he must have but it must have been instantly forgettable
Harrison - 3 - Just why? Why is he getting in the squad over Clarke (Assuming no Clarke injury) they're worlds apart talent wise and Harrison still looks like he's playing in America. Could be a player one day but not now and never for us
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Cjay wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:28 pm We were very poor and deserved everything we got.

Against the quality of WBA attacks our limited Championship players like Phillips, Cooper and Dallas were always going to struggle.

Quality players will always beat well coached players if the tactics are right.

Forcing us to kick long to Roofe was clever to.

WBA are a better team individually who were tactically spot on, no complaints.

Harrison should never have been on the bench ahead of Clarke.

You can only play square pegs for so long, was always going to happen.

And BPF is shite.
I think our names will be dirt here tonight with our Phillips comments...He's probably MOTM on the coach ;-)
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Cjay wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:28 pm We were very poor and deserved everything we got.

Against the quality of WBA attacks our limited Championship players like Phillips, Cooper and Dallas were always going to struggle.

Quality players will always beat well coached players if the tactics are right.

Forcing us to kick long to Roofe was clever to.

WBA are a better team individually who were tactically spot on, no complaints.

Harrison should never have been on the bench ahead of Clarke.

You can only play square pegs for so long, was always going to happen.

And BPF is shite.
Agree 100% with all of this. Does anyone seriously believe if we were promoted to the pl, bpf would be in goals, not a chance
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faaip wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:47 pm I think our names will be dirt here tonight with our Phillips comments...He's probably MOTM on the coach ;-)
Its almost certain. :)
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Imagine if Klich just fcking shot when he had the chance! :roll:
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It was 1-0 and evenly balanced when Roofe came off, then zero goal threat. No Saiz No Roofe and WBA had nothing to worry about at the back. Sorry Marcelo but unless Roofe was carrying a knock (didn't look like it) then that was a poor decision to ditch our 7 in 10 guy.

Saiz should have come on first

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Faaip and your rose tinted spectacles for Roofe, Klich and BPF!

We all have our favorites but Roofe was awful tonight and didn't look like scoring at all while he was on. Roberts was poor but at least he made a few runs in behind.
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I'm going to watch some Arizona State football to cleanse the palette tough game against UCLA, need my N'Keal Harry fix to relax
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Thought Roofe was poor but WBA physically were always going to be difficult for him.

We are quite 1 dimensional really.

Pass and move etc, it works well if you are allowed space but when teams sit deep, without top class players that dont exist in the Championship its very hard to break teams down.

We really needed a bit of pace and trickery.

Saiz.

But Jack Clarke imo, i dont understand why he was dropped, every time he has come on he has made an impact because he is different to everyone else.

He is tricky and direct and creates space because of it.

Bielsa made that decision.

He choose to stick with Dallas (although there wasnt much choice).

He didnt want a quality cb sticking with Cooper.

He kept faith with BPF (who isnt a very good young gk, he is a distinctly average one).

And he keeps faith with Phillips who is not a cb and not some special future international like some of our fans think.

We have a lot of very average players who have been very well coached.

WBA have better individuals whose manager knew that if you dont give us space then our 1 dimensional forward play would struggle.

And our largely average defenders would not cope with the superior WBA attackers.
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Wow talk about overreaction. Yes we were poor and got what we deserved, but we're allowed one bad performance and we're still in a good position, that doesn't make the players sht all of a sudden. West Brom had their big cup final performance, just like everyone else does, no doubt they won't play that well again, but it was a day when everything clicked for them and didn't for us. But one thing is the players should've learned by now to just shoot rather than overplay all the fcking time.
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