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Re: January Transfer Rumours And Squad Discussion

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1964white wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:29 pm We won't pay that fee, we did that in the summer & Bamford has only played about two hours of competitive football

Are we heckers skint :roll:
We wont pay it because we must not make a loss . . . . . . . . . .

Besides Zuber doesnt want to come.
Same as Vydra
Same as Hernandez
Same as Jozefzoon.

If a player isnt keen then you have to pay the price because if you haggle then you lose out.

We arent the draw Radz thinks, he needs to realise that and put his money where his mouth is.

If they dont want to come fine, move on, we havent time to waste.
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Rumours about that Chelski are considering terminating Baker’s loan agreement to get him more first team football elsewhere. Not been great but would be another gap to fill.
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We have been offered the opportunity to sign Michel Vorm from Spurs according to PH.

Not sure about that, Vorm was always suspect at crosses and that is the major worry with BPF.

Better shot stopper though.
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Have to say our squad is confusing.

Gk-BPF and nobody.
Right back-Ayling and Shacks
Cbs- Jansson, Berardi, Cooper, Halme.
Lb-Douglas, Dallas, Davis,
Dm-Phillips.
Cm-Klich, Forshaw, Baker.
Am- Hernandez, Brown
Rw/lw- Ali, Harrison, Clarke.
Striker Roberts, Roofe and Bamford

So in bold there injured or out for a few games for certain, italic are u21 and not ready being honest, Baker is apparently on his way out.

Forshaw has been playing dm but by Bielsa's own admission he is not a dm.

Leif Davis is clearly not ready and Dallas and Douglas are out so there are no left backs.

Ali can play left back but that leaves us with just Clarke and Harrison as senior wingers.

Hernandez as the only natural number 10.

Klich and Forshaw the only cms but Forshaw has to play dm to cover Phillips so just Klich as a cm if Baker goes.

So vs Derby

we have 1 senior goalie in BPF and lets be honest he shouldn't be 1st choice.

2 senior cbs if Cooper and Jansson make it.

No left back

No natural dm

2 natural cms but 1 will play dm.

1 natural Am.

2 wingers assuming Ali goes to lb.

1 senior striker plus Roberts.

It doesnt look good no matter how the club spin it.
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Cjay wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:34 pm We have been offered the opportunity to sign Michel Vorm from Spurs according to PH.

Not sure about that, Vorm was always suspect at crosses and that is the major worry with BPF.

Better shot stopper though.
We have rejected the offer apparently

He is 35yo & has obviously been a 2nd or 3rd keeper for much of his career

Probably no better than we already have between the sticks

Bl**dy Londoners trying to fob their rubbish on us
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Cjay wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:52 pm Have to say our squad is confusing.

Gk-BPF and nobody.
Right back-Ayling and Shacks
Cbs- Jansson, Berardi, Cooper, Halme.
Lb-Douglas, Dallas, Davis,
Dm-Phillips.
Cm-Klich, Forshaw, Baker.
Am- Hernandez, Brown
Rw/lw- Ali, Harrison, Clarke.
Striker Roberts, Roofe and Bamford

So in bold there injured or out for a few games for certain, italic are u21 and not ready being honest, Baker is apparently on his way out.

Forshaw has been playing dm but by Bielsa's own admission he is not a dm.

Leif Davis is clearly not ready and Dallas and Douglas are out so there are no left backs.

Ali can play left back but that leaves us with just Clarke and Harrison as senior wingers.

Hernandez as the only natural number 10.

Klich and Forshaw the only cms but Forshaw has to play dm to cover Phillips so just Klich as a cm if Baker goes.

So vs Derby

we have 1 senior goalie in BPF and lets be honest he shouldn't be 1st choice.

2 senior cbs if Cooper and Jansson make it.

No left back

No natural dm

2 natural cms but 1 will play dm.

1 natural Am.

2 wingers assuming Ali goes to lb.

1 senior striker plus Roberts.

It doesnt look good no matter how the club spin it.
You forgot Tom Pearce for LBs and I'd put Dallas under RB/RW.

We need to replace 3 players now. GK, AM, CM.

Any decent loanees in the PL? Reece Oxford plus I rate that Chong from Scum, he'd be good. Although Solksjaer would probably refuse to loan players to us like Fergie used to. :lol:
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Beradi is absolutely a right back too ...even in this scheme.
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and apart from the keeper need it looks fine to me ...
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Owen Coyle extends his loan ...but that will piss off most here. Good call for me
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SG90 wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:11 pm You forgot Tom Pearce for LBs and I'd put Dallas under RB/RW.

We need to replace 3 players now. GK, AM, CM.

Any decent loanees in the PL? Reece Oxford plus I rate that Chong from Scum, he'd be good. Although Solksjaer would probably refuse to loan players to us like Fergie used to. :lol:
I try very hard to forget Dallas :lol:

But he is injured anyway amd Bielsa hasnt used him as a winger ever i dont think he sees him as a winger, rwb maybe.

Left out Pearce because Bielsa clearly doesnt rate him.

I think its 4 at a minimum.

Gk, Winger, Number 10/Am, Cm or Dm.

Then ideally a cb but Bielsa has a blindspot there.

Or if its 3 as you say gk, winger or Am and cm.

Or maybe promote Kun as backup for Pablo, winger, cm/dm and gk.

There are so many weaknesses, that doesnt look like a top 6 squad to me even fully fit.

Then again it hasnt all season so what do i know :lol:

Regardless none of that will happen before Derby :(
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faaip wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:58 pm Beradi is absolutely a right back too ...even in this scheme.
He's injured, nasty injury to, like Bamford and Brown he could easily break down again, or like Ayling he may be totally off form and imo not fully fit for ages.

But yes he could go rb but Bielsa has said himself he sees him as a cb, probably because Berardi is dog poo past the half way line.
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faaip wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:00 pm and apart from the keeper need it looks fine to me ...
Cooper has knee surgery a month ago, i bet if Bielsa had his way Cooper would have at least 2 or 3 U23 games before returning, as it is he will probably be rushed back like Ayling and have to start.

Far from being ok imo.
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Cjay wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:25 pm Cooper has knee surgery a month ago, i bet if Bielsa had his way Cooper would have at least 2 or 3 U23 games before returning, as it is he will probably be rushed back like Ayling and have to start.

Far from being ok imo.
Not to mention the Saiz replacement too.
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faaip wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:11 pm Owen Coyle extends his loan ...but that will piss off most here. Good call for me
You mean Lewie ?
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faaip wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:11 pm Owen Coyle extends his loan ...but that will piss off most here. Good call for me
Makes sense; Ayling, Dallas, Shackleton and Berardi can all play right back. Gives Coyle a chance to get experience.
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HarryofOz wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:05 am Makes sense; Ayling, Dallas, Shackleton and Berardi can all play right back. Gives Coyle a chance to get experience.
Coyle has much more experience than Shackleton

A better attacking wing-back than Dallas & Berardi

If Berardi is now considered a CB, Lewie should have been back-up to Ayling at the beginning of this season. surely better having a natural wing-back than trying to fit square pegs in round holes as Dallas & Shackleton are both midfielders!
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Cjay wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:25 pm Cooper has knee surgery a month ago, i bet if Bielsa had his way Cooper would have at least 2 or 3 U23 games before returning, as it is he will probably be rushed back like Ayling and have to start.

Far from being ok imo.
Don't forget that Cooper actually started training again a couple of weeks ago. If he was able to train at that point then presumably the knee was fine but that they didn't want to rush him back. The U23s match would have been to give him a bit of match sharpness.
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1964white wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:49 am Coyle has much more experience than Shackleton

A better attacking wing-back than Dallas & Berardi

If Berardi is now considered a CB, Lewie should have been back-up to Ayling at the beginning of this season. surely better having a natural wing-back than trying to fit square pegs in round holes as Dallas & Shackleton are both midfielders!
Shame we have such an inept coach in charge who no doubt didn't watch any of the players in training in the summer or watch videos of how they did last year. Hate it when the manager doesn't give the homegrown youngsters a chance.
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Fraser Forster - Currently behind McCarthy and Gunn in the pecking order at Southampton but has years of Premier League experience and has played for England.
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We are probably waiting because of the £60k a week he is probably on that we would have to fund and probably cant. That's probably why.
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