The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by Ellandback1 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:20 am

Good Morning Everyone

If ever a team has been demolished 1-0, it was Saturday evening at Elland Road.

28 shots on target, and triple the amount of shots on target later, Bielsa's lads had stretched their lead over the Blades to 3 points, albeit the Blades have a +3 better goal difference!

Even Leeds villain Steve Bruce was complementary about Leeds:-

"I couldn't fault our effort and endeavour but I don't think there is any question that the better team won.

"The transformation in them in the last 12 months is there for everyone to see. They are a very good outfit and their fitness levels and the intensity they play at were too much for us today.

"We couldn't cope with it at times and we had the goalkeeper to thank for keeping us in it."




Since beating Leeds in mid March (and celebrating like they'd won the World Cup) Chris Wilder's men have won once, drawn twice and lost once.

They will now be sweating over the fitness of leading scorer Billy Sharp who pick up an injury on Saturday against the boys from Bermondsey!

Four games to go!!!




After the game, goal scorer Jack Harrison was speaking to the press.

“You see the style of play we have. It is not like the rest of the Championship teams,” said Harrison. “It will be interesting to see if we can continue that style of play in the Premier League as the standard is that much better,” he added

Does he intend to stay at Elland Road next season?




Phil Hay tweeted over the weekend that Bielsa sent 6 members of his back staff team to the Norwich v Wigan game:-

“Someone who was at Wigan today tells me that just the six members of Bielsa’s backroom staff were sent to the draw with Norwich earlier.

“I know Dean Saunders doesn’t rate it but the analysis he’s doing is off the scale.”




Its safe to say that Hernandez is our player of the season once again, but who would be second and third?

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by faaip » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:26 am

Klich and Jansson

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by Chilli D » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:08 am

Morning All,

Fair play to Steve Bruce but he couldn't say much else really could he.
His team were battered for nearly the whole game with only the occasional respite.
We must be a nightmare to defend against, some of the Wednesday players looked knackered at the end of the game.

Despite Jack Harrison being the hero on Saturday and having a much better game I still think he is the weakest link in our side.
But he took his goal well so good on him.

I agree with Faaip but in the reverse order
Pontus 2nd, Klich 3rd


Chris Wilder's men are having their wobble now when it matters most but they could just as easily come out of it so nothing can be taken for granted starting with Wigan on Friday. Very unlucky not to beat Norwich yesterday by all accounts.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by Dalton » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:13 am

Morning all,

I said on another thread about Norwich V reading and playing Wigan is tricky AND they go away to Stoke and Villa.
Basically, 2 losses against those 2 or ANOTHER slip at home then we could win the league. $ points gained in past 2 matches.
As for Sheffield....MAJOR wobbles there and possibly losing shard as well.

Thanks for the game link by the way....no LUTV as on SKY but manged to watch it rather than listen

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by 1964white » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:43 am

Good morning Matt & all

Harrison

We'll need a better quality winger if we reach the premiership

2nd to Hernandez

Jansson or Phillips

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by SG90 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:43 am

Morning all.

Let's just focus on ourselves. 4 more wins and we're there, take each game as it comes.

1. Pablo 2. Jansson 3. Klich

Last u23s league game today. I'd give Roofe 45 mins, Clarke and Shack 60 odd and Brown another run out, although what for who knows.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by dezzy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:48 am

SG90 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:43 am
Morning all.

Let's just focus on ourselves. 4 more wins and we're there, take each game as it comes.

1. Pablo 2. Jansson 3. Klich

Last u23s league game today. I'd give Roofe 45 mins, Clarke and Shack 60 odd and Brown another run out, although what for who knows.
Agree on Roofe, needs a few minutes under his belt, looked off the pace on Saturday, 45mins would do him the world of good
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by mothbanquet » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:37 am

Morning lads and lasses, what a difference a weekend can make eh?


28 shots on target, and triple the amount of shots on target later, Bielsa's lads had stretched their lead over the Blades to 3 points, albeit the Blades have a +3 better goal difference!

We were unlucky not to score at least two more and Westwood put in an amazing first half performance but there was only one way things were going to go. If we can just replicate that calm and refuse to be bullied, control the game completely then promotion is assured and the title is a distinct possibility.


Since beating Leeds in mid March (and celebrating like they'd won the World Cup) Chris Wilder's men have won once, drawn twice and lost once.

I've been surprised by the pessimism coming from Blunts fans, though it'd be no different if our situations were reversed. Either way, Sharp's absence is a big, big boost for us and I can't see them making up his share of their goals in the precious little time left.


Does Harrison intend to stay at Elland Road next season?

Can't see us shelling out for him and I would be perturbed if we didn't sign anyone better should/when we get promoted. He shows his potential in flashes but we need more than potential in the PL. Mind you, I think he was using collective terms because he's a professional and will count himself as part of this team and club until he's moved on. Don't think there's anything more to read into it.


Its safe to say that Hernandez is our player of the season once again, but who would be second and third?

Phillips - Can't believe he's yet to reach his mid-twenties. Has his wobbles but his is a position that usually requires a huge amount of experience, footballing acumen and strength/stamina, and only a handful of players in the world become masters of it. That he's grown into the role and improved so much since doing so while being so young will mean big things for his future. I'm anticipating he may become one of Bielsa's finest products in another season or two. It wasn't easy putting him above Pontus but without Phillips's phenomenal efforts in defence as well as his driving, dogged efforts on the attack, our goal difference would be very different.

Klich - I'm sure I wasn't the only one to scratch his head trying to summon memories of who he actually was when he started against Stoke on that fateful first day. Since then he's rarely looked out of form; a constant, marauding presence in midfield. He's come up with goals when we've needed them and almost every game he's looked like he's been putting every ounce of effort into repaying not only Bielsa's faith but our own. Top bloke, great player and I'm chuffed to bits for the lad that his Leeds career has been jump-started again in such a manner.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by Ratscoot » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:42 am

1964white wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:43 am
Good morning Matt & all

Harrison

We'll need a better quality winger if we reach the premiership

2nd to Hernandez

Jansson or Phillips
Agree Leon

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by SaraM » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:55 am

Good morning!

My second and third picks would be Pontus and Roofe. Not to take anything away from Klich, but Roofe's energy and movement in front of goal have to be acknowledged. I know he hasn't been on it all season, but we wouldn't be where we are without him.

I remember SU bottling promotion against Wednesday from league 1 a few years ago. They had a couple of games in hand and something like a 5 point lead, and then blew it in the last few games. I'm sure they've faffed up several playoff campaigns since as well. Different players, different manager, different league, but some of their fans seem to believe it is a club mentality. Do such things exist? Do we have a mentality of failure? Has Marcelo brought a new level of belief and determination?

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by SG90 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:15 am

As I said before, it's incredibly unfair and a huge advantage that they kick off 4 times in a row before us, the Wigan game should have been moved to 12.30 as well. Even if the players and Bielsa are focusing on the match, they will be told the score by the reporters, the announcers and the fans, so you can't block it out. Therefore we have to win to put all the pressure on them before they play, otherwise all the pressure is on us.

Against the wendies it would have been 3-0 but for Westwood wonder saves and not every GK in the league is as good as him, plus Bruce keeps it very tight. It's not like we scraped a result through luck.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by mothbanquet » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:38 am

SaraM wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:55 am
Good morning!

My second and third picks would be Pontus and Roofe. Not to take anything away from Klich, but Roofe's energy and movement in front of goal have to be acknowledged. I know he hasn't been on it all season, but we wouldn't be where we are without him.

I remember SU bottling promotion against Wednesday from league 1 a few years ago. They had a couple of games in hand and something like a 5 point lead, and then blew it in the last few games. I'm sure they've faffed up several playoff campaigns since as well. Different players, different manager, different league, but some of their fans seem to believe it is a club mentality. Do such things exist? Do we have a mentality of failure? Has Marcelo brought a new level of belief and determination?
I think Roofe's a fair shout, I mean that last-kick winner against Villa will live long in our memories and was one of the highlights of the season for me. Without a doubt he's our most natural goalscorer and I feel if he didn't pick up those injuries and thus was enabled to score a few more goals, win us a few more points he'd be higher on my list too. His workrate and dedication are massive but I think the same could be said of a few players in this squad, I'm very proud of what they've achieved.

My best mate's a blunts fan and he was philosophical this morning after the obligatory gloat from yours truly, and his words pretty much mirrored those of most of their fans I've read on the forums Cjay kindly linked us to elsewhere. I think their expectation of the worse is something we can relate to and I'm absolutely convinced there is such thing as a club mentality, but it's just a collective mood based on shared experiences and it's only natural when fate has swung against you repeatedly down the years to be pessimistic.

That said, these things are always down to real factors - poor management, poor ownership, poor players or even corruption in extreme cases. I think our club mentality has certainly turned a corner thanks to two of those things being corrected in one fell swoop with the arrivals of Radrizzani and Bielsa. We'd be right to be cautious after what we've seen in the past but I don't think it's now too much to open the curtains a bit in the dank, dark, musty room of Leeds expectations. :roflmao:

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by Dalton » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:12 pm

A nod should definitely go to our 3 new "signings"
Phillips in his new position
Klich coming back from nowhere to shine
and of course Roberts.....rather than keeping the bench warm for Bamford or Roofe MB moulded him into the Saiz role

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by SaraM » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Roofe's late goals against Villa and Blackburn are definitely a season highlight for me so far. Yes, the more complete performances against West Brom and Derby were satisfying, but for the sheer mad exuberance of pulling something out of nothing, it's hats off to Mr Roofe. It's those moments which feed the never say die attitude, and the belief that we're always in the game until the final whistle.

I like the image of opening a crack in the curtains, to reveal vibrant, close cropped, sunlit grass, and a man in a tracksuit perched on a blue bucket, smiling benignly in our direction. It's time to shake off sleep, have a wash and go outside.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by faaip » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:07 pm

Roofe is my number 4, and that because he's missed half the season. Alio would probably be 5, just a complete season of intense energy plus a decent assist and goal ratio for a wing back/wing

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Post by SaraM » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:56 pm

The Blunts do seem to specialise in sour grapes.

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Post by Ellandback1 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:26 pm

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by 1964white » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:09 pm

Ratscoot wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:42 am
Agree Leon

Anyone for Snoddy coming back?
Not for me Rat

Snoddy has baggage particularly in the :beer: :wine: :cocktail: :tumbler: :beers: department, not keen on ex-players returning back to Leeds

Anyway I don't think he is Bielsa's type of player tbh

Expect signings of the calibre of Casilla in the summer

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 15th April)

Post by 1964white » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:15 pm

SaraM wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:55 am
Has Marcelo brought a new level of belief and determination?
Marcelo certainly has brought belief and determination Sara, he's also achieve miracles in his such a short space of time, a world class coach imo!

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