Cantwells agent using Leeds to drum up support.

07 Oct 2020 07:50 am, by Ellandback1


Good Morning. It's Wednesday 7th October, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Cantwell's agent using Leeds to drum up interest in his client

Ex Leeds and England forward Noel Whelan has rubbished reports that Leeds are desperate to sign Norwich City midfielder Todd Cantwell. Instead, Whelan is blaming the 22yo's agent for trying to drum up interest in his client.

From what I have heard, was it Cantwell's agent that was pushing that one? That is what I’ve been hearing on the grapevine. Leeds might be interested in him, but they weren’t desperate for him. It’s more his agent pushing that one. If he did come to Leeds we’d be getting a very good young player and we know Marcelo Bielsa likes that. But it obviously wasn’t his first port of call. "There were other irons in the fire that he was looking at.




Leipzig still want their €21m for Augustin

Jean Kevin Augustin joining Nantes has not calmed the waters between Leipzig and Leeds Utd. The (then) 22 year old hit man only managed 50 minutes of game time during his short tenure at Elland Road due to a series of injuries and lack of fitness. Augustin was given free player status this week by Leipzig, and the former PSG star was instantly snapped up by the French outfit.

According to Florian Scholz, the Commercial Manager of RB Leipzig, they still want the money as the contract applies & that he is no longer a Leipzig player. The German outfit want €21m because of the promotion, but Leeds will claim the agreement expired on June 30. Florian Scholz was further quoted as saying “Jean-Kevin Augustin has not been a player at RB Leipzig since the rise of Leeds United.

If that is the case, who gave Augustin a free player status? Surely, if it went to Court, and Leeds lost, it would mean they'd have to have Augustin back so they could sell him! That will be difficult after Leipzig have given him away.





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weasel wrote on 08 Oct 2020 09:07 am

danhirons wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:22 am feel sorry for JKA - gone from a most wanted youngster to not wanted by two teams

be interesting to see if he massively hits it off at his new club if the legal fight between us and RB turns into a "whoever can win him back" battle :lol: be interesting to see what the clause in his contract exactly said (must buy him if promoted by 30 June? if that's how it was written then you'd think the lawyer wants questioning for not stating "the end of the season" although I imagine something like corona was not really predictable but hey ho).
I wouldn't blame the lawyer as I would be fairly certain that it would have had to have had a specific date from a legal viewpoint as end of the season is to vague a concept as say for example is the end of the season when the league finishes, if we'd finished top 2, or would it include the play-offs even though it didn't matter to us as we weren't invovled. It may not seem much but the interest in £20m sat in our bank for an extra month or two would likely be a reasonable sum so paying the transfer fee at some point in May or 30th June would make a difference.

danhirons wrote on 08 Oct 2020 06:22 am

feel sorry for JKA - gone from a most wanted youngster to not wanted by two teams

be interesting to see if he massively hits it off at his new club if the legal fight between us and RB turns into a "whoever can win him back" battle :lol: be interesting to see what the clause in his contract exactly said (must buy him if promoted by 30 June? if that's how it was written then you'd think the lawyer wants questioning for not stating "the end of the season" although I imagine something like corona was not really predictable but hey ho).

whiteswan wrote on 07 Oct 2020 06:25 pm

SG90 wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:56 am If the roles were reversed, they'd do exactly the same! They think they can bully us because they're a giant corporation with high priced lawyers, but I'm sure Radz has some too. If the club felt they would definitely lose, they'd have paid by now.

The date said we had to sign him before 30/06 on promotion, we were not promoted and we didn't extend the loan. He never signed a permanent deal with us at the time, just a loan. Jack Harrison's agreement with Man City also expired on 30/06, which is we we had to re-negotiate a new deal. We couldn't just say "but we agreed an £8m deal with Man City!!!", it's was ts in that case.

It sounds like they want their cake and eat it too. They gave away JKA, but we have to pay them for it. They should pay us then for loss of a transfer fee with JKA if they feel so strongly about it.

One more thing, all those players whose contracts ended on 30/06 and didn't re-sign, if Leipzig win, then the likes of Charlton and Hull have a right to sue for loss of income following relegation.
Good post SG

whiteswan wrote on 07 Oct 2020 06:24 pm

weasel wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:28 pm Excellently put. Players left their clubs when their contracts ended on the 30th June, some extended it to the end of the season but no contract with a date on could simply be extended by the club or player - the contracts ended on the date unless both parties agreed to extend it. We saw the situation with players who simply refused to play and we also saw the situation where Berardi risked his own future and I would far rather the club does the honourable thing with Berardi and look after him than giving Leipzig anything. If JKA had been playing for us and we'd slipped out of the promotion race by the 30th June I wonder if Leipzig would have recalled him so as to protect their interest than risk him getting injured? JKA himself may have decided on the 30th June he no longer wanted to play for us even if he'd been playing. All sorts of scenario could have happened on the 30th June, when the contract ended, and that is why you cannot simply say that because we were promoted we should stick to a contract that had ended. The only certain thing that happened in regards to all this was that on the 30th June we were not promoted and as such the purchase obligation ended.

There is no moral issue here. Same as Barcelona didn't allow Messi to simply leave and same that countless players simply left their club no matter the consequences - such as the Charlton players who walked out of their club and twiddled their thumbs while Charlton got relegated. The Sala situation is completely different as he'd signed a contract so was actually a Cardiff City player at the time of his unfortunate death.
I agree with all of that weasel

faaip wrote on 07 Oct 2020 06:13 pm

I'm fairly sure that JKA also had to agree to the transfer, he had the right to pull the plug should he want. I read early that it was written into the original agreement. So you have 3 parties involved not two and if JKA and MB didn't get on I couldn't see JKA signing a contract with us voiding any previous agreement