Leeds United v West Ham Utd - Match Thread

09 Dec 2020 07:55 pm, by Ellandback1


Saturday 11th December 20:00| Elland Road


Leeds face yet another defensive crisis, as they welcome Wet Ham to Elland Road. Robin Koch had undergone knee surgery and is now sidelined until the spring. Fellow central defender, and Summer signing Diego Llorente had been out of action since 11th October during International Duty with Spain, but was thrown in at the deep end against Chelsea due to Koch's injury after just 10 minutes. The 27 year old will now be out for a further three weeks after picking up a new muscle injury in that game.

Bielsa cunningly revealed during his day early press conference that due to the injury situation, Luke Ayling will partner Liam Cooper at centre back, with Stuart Dallas at right-back and Gjanni Alioski at left-back (but don't tell West Ham)! Record signing Rodrigo, who should be pretty cheesed off by now for being used as a bit player for the first quarter of the season, gets his second start of the season playing in the number tel role. Bielsa took the trouble to read out his starting line up for the benefit of journalists at the pre match press conference...

Rodrigo Moreno is going to come in for Llorente and the 11 will be Meslier, Dallas, Ayling, Cooper, Alioski, Phillips, Klich, Moreno, Raphinha, Harrison, Bamford
For David Moyes, top scorer Michail Antonio is again doubtful so Sebastien Haller is likely to continue in attack. Ryan Fredericks is expected to be available again for West Ham after a three-match absence with a groin strain. West Ham are currebtly sat eight in the table with 17 points, a total Leeds could equal with victory on Friday night. After a sluggish start to the season the Hammers have picked up some form with draws against Manhester city and Spurs followed by victories against Leicester, Villa, Sheffield United and Fulham. They were unlucky to be beaten by Manchester United last weekend in a game they could have put to bed before the visitors comeback.




Leeds are unbeaten in nine meetings, winning five of them, since a 1-0 home defeat in November 2000. The most recent Premier League encounter between the sides came in February 2003, with hosts Leeds winning 1-0. This will be West Ham's 50th away league trip to Leeds. They have won just six of their previous visits. Leeds have gone four matches without a win at Elland Road, losing and drawing twice and scoring only two goals. The Whites have never lost a top-flight home game played on a Friday (W3, D6). Leeds have gone four matches without a win at Elland Road, losing and drawing twice and scoring only two goals. The Hammers have only lost twice in eight away league matches.


Leeds Starting XI
Meslier, Dallas, Ayling, Cooper, Alioski, Phillips, Klich, Moreno, Raphinha, Harrison, Bamford

Subs: Casilla, Struijk, Shackleton, Costa, Roberts, Hernandez, Poveda

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Irish Ian wrote on 17 Dec 2020 12:27 am

1964white wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:06 pm What :shock:

Are you kidding Peter?
I await his comeback with bated breath.

Lumiukko wrote on 16 Dec 2020 08:25 pm

onemoreslogan wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:57 pm
I think our poor form of late owes more to an unsettled back line due to injuries than anything else. Beyond that, I'm tempted to argue they haven't been playing often enough and might have trouble maintaining form with so much time between matches in the PL. Looking forward to seeing how they respond over the next run of games which are coming at a more Championship-like frequency, to see if there is anything to this idea.
This is a good point. Perhaps the frequent matches over the next month will actually play into our hands with the fitness of our team. Certainly showed we were fittest tonight (against a Covid ravaged Newcastle admittedly).

onemoreslogan wrote on 16 Dec 2020 05:57 pm

Yeah, the "Bielsa sides run out of steam down the stretch" myth was largely exploded his first two seasons at Leeds as far as I'm concerned. Whenever anyone comes out with that line it simply tells me they haven't been paying attention.

I think our poor form of late owes more to an unsettled back line due to injuries than anything else. Beyond that, I'm tempted to argue they haven't been playing often enough and might have trouble maintaining form with so much time between matches in the PL. Looking forward to seeing how they respond over the next run of games which are coming at a more Championship-like frequency, to see if there is anything to this idea.

The Pablo business is a head-scratcher and unfortunately we can only speculate as to why he's been under-employed. I hope we get the whole story at some point because I've been kind of obsessing over it.

faaip wrote on 16 Dec 2020 05:38 pm

I don't think there's any evidence we ran out of steam first season under MB, we basically played Derby off the park for two games bar 20 minutes and we finished stronger

I think the issue is MB will let players drag themselves out of slumps rather than change personnel....I don't think we'll see changes for the next game even if we're well beaten tonight

White Riot wrote on 16 Dec 2020 05:28 pm

Peter in Blackpool wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:17 pm white riot, I look for reasons why all previous Bielsa teams have failed at the death. Why they start well but fail to achieve and then he is off.

Its been an absolute pleasure watching Leeds this last 2 and a half seasons and the credit for that goes to Bielsa. But I believe he has taken us as far as he can, his type of football does not work in the strongest league in the world.

Its true, he has managed national teams with top players, but its not the same is it? getting the players for a few days once every couple of months. you cannot get a team to play bielsball unless you have them for a good while.

I fully accept that without him we would still be a mid table team in the championship and if he ever takes on another championship team i would be rushing down to the bookies with a fistful of cash. But he has never managed a top club team to success. To keep our momentum going we now need a different kind of manager who can build a squad and rest players who drop out of form and does not drop players cos he falls out with them.

A good manager would yell at pablo and say something like....so you think you are too good to be substituted.....right, I disagree, but I will play you tonight, now go out there and prove me wrong or shut the **** up
You make some valid points Peter

I guess only time will tell if Bielsa can keep us up.

Yes, I disagree with the way Pablo has been treated, he's the best player at the club for me and has been for a number of seasons.

My team talk tonight would be "Listen lads you let yourselves, me and the supporters down in the last two matches, so get out there tonight and show these cnuts what we're made of, get stuck in and put the fear of God into them, those three points are ours, so go and fooking get them".