Elland Road capacity needs to be 50 to 60k to compete

20 May 2021 07:54 am, by Ellandback1


Good Morning. It's Thursday 20th May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Elland Road needs to be 50,000 - 60,000 capacity to compete - Kinnear

Leeds United Chief Executive Angus Kinnear has been discussing the plans to redevelop Elland Road on the latest Phil Hay podcast. The plans for expansion were first announced two years ago, but little has been done so far. Kinnear explains why!

Everybody has agreed that what we have isn’t going to take us to where we want to go, so it’s a matter of when rather than if. If we look at the stadiums we need to benchmark ourselves against. We need to be between 50 and 60 thousand to be financially competitive with other world-class stadiums in the Premier League. We know we have the demand for that, we know that from our season ticket waiting lists, our hospitality waiting lists and we know that Leeds as a city can sustain a club at 50 to 60 thousand.

The location of the ground isn’t being looked at. We’re in a fantastic location right near the centre and we have a horseshoe of land around the ground we can expand into, which isn’t a luxury that lots of clubs have. The only challenging side is the Elland Road side where we back right onto the road, so to move that way is more challenging and it would also impact the café where I get my lunch.

The project works on a year-by-year basis where you build on top of one stand while people are still sitting in it and then you move them into the upper tier and complete the stand below, so it’s a process where you don’t lose capacity.

The visions that we’re seeing are really impressive, it’s something everyone in the city will be proud of and we’re getting a lot of support from the city council, but we’re still at the early stages because our first priority is to sustain Premier League status and then we can build on that.

Well, what we’ve been very conscious of is not promising things we’re not sure we can deliver on. Lots of clubs have brought out attractive virtual reality renders of their stadiums and then never delivered against them or delivered 10 or 20 years later. We want to come to the fanbase with a proper consultation with what they want, allow them to input into those designs and then deliver something with financing behind it. We’re not there yet, but the vision is there and the work is going on behind the scenes.

We are now told that the club are not looking to relocate from Elland Road! How can we compete with the Stadiums from Spurs and Arsenal? Leeds are in the fortunate position as being the only top flight club in Yorkshire now. Geographically that is massive for the club! It gives Leeds Utd a much bigger potential fan base than any other club in the Country?

Will they knock down ER, and start again - Surely not, that would make us homeless! It's not as if we can share with Bradford City for a season! Is it possible to develop Elland Road into one of the finest stadiums in Europe?





Whites to receive unexpected £26m windfall

Angus Kinnear also revealed that Leeds are set for a massive financial windfall from TV rights, on top of their guaranteed payments. It turns out that Leeds only budgeted for 16 main broadcast slots (minimum is 10). They have had 24, one less than Citeh, and two less than Liverpool. This will give the Whites an extra 20-26m that they were not expecting!

Because every game’s been on TV they split them between ones with a so-called facility fee and ones that are being broadcast because of Covid. Whenever we get put on TV the club secretary says ‘Does it come with a facility fee?’ because there’s a big difference. We have had 24 games on TV, we budgeted for 16 on the basis that the least attractive clubs get 10 and we thought we’d be above that.

To get 24… the last time I looked Man City were on 25 and Liverpool on 26, that’s right at the top in terms of box office. “It’s great from an exposure perspective and great from a financial perspective. It bodes well for next season too. We’ve put ourselves in the group of attractive matches. Leeds v Man United will get shown twice, Leeds v Arsenal will get shown twice, so it’s very helpful.

If you were given £20-26m, and had to spend it or lose it in 24 hours, how would you (personally) spend it?





Should he stay or should he go?

In his first season at Elland Road, it would be fair to say that record signing Rodrigo has not lived up to his price tag. The 30 yo has been dogged by injury, and when he has played, he sometimes has to play out of position. In the last few games, we have seen some magical moments from the Spanish International, and although he hasn't fulfilled his 30m fee, the class that he has shown have many fans envisaging that Rodrigo can be a long term stay for the club. Former crowd favourite (you know who you are) Noel Whelan was asked, following the Saints game whether Rodrigo is a better number nine or number 10. He replied...

The big decision we have got to make because tonight we saw a pass that was from a number 10. Two goals at the weekend we saw from a number 9 player. He himself says he is a number 10. I think he can play both. I think he is one of these players that is never going to stick up against a centre-half and play back to him, he is always going to come into that number 10 role.



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Smudge3920 wrote on 23 May 2021 11:56 am

I think what we have to remember in determining ground capacity, is, Leeds are the only top flight side in Yorkshire, accessability to ER is really not an issue... if more season tickets were available then, I am sure they would sell, not forgetting the waiting list already in place... I have no doubt a miniimum of 50K per game is easily in ER's future.

Leeds1000 wrote on 23 May 2021 11:28 am

If Everton think they can do 52,000 every week then i am sure with the correct ticket prices we can do more than that.

Norm wrote on 23 May 2021 06:33 am

Orange Box wrote:

I remember that 1967 cup replay for all the wrong reasons. I was nearly 13 and skived off school to go to the game. Arriving at 5pm I thought I would get into the shed easily, it was impossible so I tried to get into the lowfields, I’d never seen such a crowd but even so I still thought I’d get in. Just as I would get close to the turnstiles being so skinny I’d get elbowed out of the way and find myself out of line. A couple from Hull tried to squeeze me in with them but to no avail, the gate shut around 7 and I was locked out. There were thousands outside who hung around with no chance of getting in, but hundreds were scaling the brick walls and getting in, not an option for a little kid like me.
Just after kick off we could tell something wasn’t right as people came spilling out of the lowfields and the shed saying there’d been a crush and people had been killed. That was it for me, I was scared so set off back to the bus station to get home. I was so lucky because I know if I had got in I would have made my way to the shed corner, which was exactly where the barriers collapsed.
Fortunately there were no deaths, but I wasn’t allowed back to ER again that season.
Glad you survived it OB. I was never really happy about being on the terraces with 40K+ crowds - in fact I often left games a little early because I didn't trust the crowds collective behaviour when exiting ER.

Orange Box wrote on 21 May 2021 09:07 pm

Norm wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 2:49 am Our record crowd was 57,000+ against Sunderland in a Cup replay - year not remembered - but that crowd volume, even then, was not a regular occurrence.
I remember that 1967 cup replay for all the wrong reasons. I was nearly 13 and skived off school to go to the game. Arriving at 5pm I thought I would get into the shed easily, it was impossible so I tried to get into the lowfields, I’d never seen such a crowd but even so I still thought I’d get in. Just as I would get close to the turnstiles being so skinny I’d get elbowed out of the way and find myself out of line. A couple from Hull tried to squeeze me in with them but to no avail, the gate shut around 7 and I was locked out. There were thousands outside who hung around with no chance of getting in, but hundreds were scaling the brick walls and getting in, not an option for a little kid like me.
Just after kick off we could tell something wasn’t right as people came spilling out of the lowfields and the shed saying there’d been a crush and people had been killed. That was it for me, I was scared so set off back to the bus station to get home. I was so lucky because I know if I had got in I would have made my way to the shed corner, which was exactly where the barriers collapsed.
Fortunately there were no deaths, but I wasn’t allowed back to ER again that season.

HarryofOz wrote on 21 May 2021 06:04 am

Norm wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 2:49 am Our record crowd was 57,000+ against Sunderland in a Cup replay - year not remembered - but that crowd volume, even then, was not a regular occurrence.

Our crowds even in the Revie years were never consistently above 40K.

This talk of 55-60K may be a wish and it may have some traction but I'm unsure it could be maintained, especially if we have several years like we had after O'Leary.

Just sayin'.
Agreed

Lets see if we can regularly fill the current stadium for a couple of season or so before making it bigger.