Is it make or break time for Tyler Roberts

30 Sep 2021 07:48 am, by Ellandback1

Good Morning. It's Thursday 30th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...

Make or break for Roberts

Tyler Roberts future at Elland Road hangs in the balance, due to the rapid acceleration of young starlet Joe Gelhardt, according to Leeds Live. Elland Road's favourite scapegoat has made 84 appearances for the Whites since his £2.5m arrival from West Brom three years ago, though the majority have been bit parts. Whilst fans of the Welsh International are keen to point out, Roberts is only 22, his impact of the team's performance is negligible at times. He signed a new three-year contract in the Summer after impressing during the latter stages of last season; but has not been able to replicate this, this term.

Joe Gelhardt on the other hand continues to impress following his £1.2m move from Wigan Athletic last summer. 11 goals and 3 assists in 16 saw him as one of Leeds United U23s stand out performers in Premier League 2 last season and he has started this season in the same vein of form with 6 goals in 6 appearances. His first team debut came as a second half substitute for Mateusz Klich in the EFL Cup third round match against Fulham last week. The Leeds eon the match on penalties with Gelhardt cooly striking the seventh of Leeds eight penalties into the Fulham net.

Should Roberts go out on loan, where he will get first team action week in, week out, get rid in the January transfer window or keep him? Could Gelhardt move himeself above Roberts in the pecking order over the coming weeks?

Meslier to the rescue

Illan Meslier has been a revelation since his arrival from French outfit Lorient two seasons ago, and at 5m, is proving to be one of the best buys in recent times. Still only 21, and standing 6 foot 6', the last line of defence has been instrumental between the sticks this season. Leeds have conceded 112 shots in the Premier League this season - more than any other team so far. He has made 27 saves, more than any other top flight keeper, and the moves saves from inside the box (18). Whilst the French U21 should be congratulated for his performances, it certainly highlights the deficiencies we have on the pitch.

Highly unlikely Leeds will strengthen squad in January

It is 'highly unlikely' that Leeds will strengthen their squad in the January transfer window. Those were the words of Leeds Utd journalist Beren Cross.

The problem with January business is you’re always fighting an uphill battle to make it work under Bielsa. Assuming you sign the player in mid to late January. They need six weeks with the under-23s before they’re ready physically and tactically for Bielsa. You’re looking at the final six weeks of a season for the player to have an impact. If there was some form of injury crisis, then I am sure the club would act, but it seems highly unlikely if the squad is largely available to Bielsa through the second half of the season.

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whiteswan wrote on 01 Oct 2021 06:48 pm

I don't like to knock our players. What frustrates me is that Tyler is always the sub who is sent on to work miracles on or around 60 mins. That's not necessarily fair on the lad. It doesn't matter what team or what formation we're playing against, it's the same old same old from Bielsa. Maybe he's the one we should be getting a bit frustrated with, because let's be honest, if we know what the sub is always going to be whatever the situation, then I'm darned sure that every other Premier League manager will know as well. Time to change it Marcelo

Orange Box wrote on 01 Oct 2021 03:24 pm

Come on guys, wake up and put the coffee pot on, Tyro is going out on loan to nowhere, and we all know it. When Marcelo sits down next year and writes his memoirs of his time at Leeds, no doubt entitled “terco como una mula”*, he will claim his biggest success as Kalvin, and his biggest regret as his inability to progress Tyler Roberts into a PL player.

I’ve said it before, I would love him to kick on, he is young enough - don’t forget, still eligible for the U23s. My fear is we sell him to somewhere mediocre like Forest and by some miracle he turns into Messi, and we lose out big time. But I am prepared to take that risk, the lad frustrates me, but I can’t help but like him.

*translation courtesy of google. There’s a possibility it’s more accurate than Bielsa’s translator.

lufc1304 wrote on 01 Oct 2021 08:15 am

faaip wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:01 pm This is a Bamford argument, when Paddy first arrived he was very inconsistent, played poorly for the most part apart from the odd flash of ability but Bielsa stuck with him and got some rewards, what Bamford got Tyler hasn't had is a lot of consecutive starts at the position MB wanted him, Roberts gets the odd start, plays up front, on the wing and as the 10 where he has flashed.

For me Roberts is the better footballer, I don't think he's lazy as he chases back and tackles well, he has thread the needle multiple times and with better finishing would have a decent amount of assists. My guess is the confidence is lacking but the class is there for me... Neither Paddy nor Tyler should be starting atm, but Tyler at 22 is 3 years from peak and Paddy in three years will be no better than he currently is.

We're not paying much for Tyler, he's clearly loyal, deserves better from the fans imo..
Can't argue with any of that, faaip. I don't knock him as it's not my thing to scapegoat players, but his lack of consistency is frustrating. He tends to do something brilliant in every game, but not consistently. He needs a run of games, and perhaps an arm around the shoulder (as opposed to a kick up the arse) and he's not going to get either here at the minute. Hence my suggestion that a loan spell might invigorate him. I don't think he's lazy physically, I just wonder does he have a lazy attitude, isn't driven to improve himself like some players are. A spell out of the LUFC spotlight might be just what he needs.

White Riot wrote on 01 Oct 2021 08:08 am

Carrick Dave wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:44 pm Is the frustration among fans not primarily that in playing attacking midfield week in and week out and not scoring deprives Leeds of points?

Nobody has anything against the lad, if he was banging them in he'd face no criticism at all, but if he can't score or lay goals on it's hard to justify his inclusion, starting or off the bench.

None of us understand Marcelo's thinking on this, but even if he sees something I don't it's taking a long time to manifest itself.
I think fans might be a bit forgiving if the performances and results of the team had been good Dave.

When performances and results are poor then questions should and will be asked about the team, squad, coach, tactics and team and individual performances.

But even when we've played well in the past he's still stuck out like a sore thumb for me as not fitting, or performing.

When you're in our situation you don't have the luxury of just hoping someone is eventually gonna come good. We need immediate positive contributions, and performances that will generate results and points.

Those that are capable have risen to the occasion when given the opportunity, Meslier, Struijk, Cresswell, Shackleton, etc. Raphinha came in late at the start of last season and made immediate contributions.

I don't feel like we have the luxury of waiting for Tyro and need to give some of the other kids a chance, like he's been given.

Nowt against the lad, but I'm always more interested in what's good for our team and club, not individuals.

White Riot wrote on 01 Oct 2021 07:55 am

mentalcase wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:22 pm It's no coincidence he's shite for wales as well, anyone seen the chances he misses ?
Like Cooper, he's a premier league player, and when he's up against competition from lower divisions/domestic leagues for a place in his national side, he should be strolling in there as a first choice. E.g Dan James gets his spot

But neither Tyro, or Cooper, are a first choice for their national sides, and there must be a reason for that?