Leeds pinning hopes on Godfrey

30 Jan 2024 09:03 am, by Ellandback1


Good Morning. It's Tuesday 30th January, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Leeds pinning hopes on Godfrey

Leeds have submitted a second offer in as many days, seemingly pinning all their hopes on signing Ben Godfrey until the end of the season, with an obligation to buy in the Summer.

The versatile 26 year old has fallen down the pecking order at Goodison Park following the arrival of James Tarkowksi. He has made just two league appearances this season, and Everton are desperate to get him off their books.

It is believed that the Toffee's are not interested in loaning Godfrey out, and already have interested parties abroad bidding for his services. Whilst this pours cold water on Leeds initial approach, they are now offering a loan to buy clause, which would activate this Summer.

Leeds must be careful. They do not have the best of relationships with Everton. The Whites are part of a trio of clubs suing the Toffee's for £300m for loss of earnings, having been relegated last season.

The Wilfred Gnonto affair last Summer almost came to blows, not to mention Jack Harrison joining the blue side of Merseyside on a season long loan (without a loan fee).





Leeds miss out on trio of players

Leeds have missed out on the signatures of David Brooks, Kalvin Ramsay and Ali Al-Hamadi. Iranian International striker Al-Hamadi has signed a four and a half year contract with high flying Ipswich Town. He has netted 27 goals in 48 appearances for AFC Wimbledon, but with the terms of his contract dwindling, the Dons agreed an initial fee of just over £1m, though with add-ons, will rise considerably!

Leeds have also missed out on David Brooks, having monitored him all month. The 26 year old playmaker is joining fellow promotion hopefuls Southampton until the end of the season. Out of the three, losing out on Brooks to a promotion rival will hurt the most, especially if he can re-find the form of last season.

Lastly, and probably not so important, Calvin Ramsay is set to join Bolton, where he can be playing first team football every week.





Leeds turn their attention to Benson

Leeds may turn their attention to Burnley reject Manuel Benson after Southampton lost interest, following the capture of David Brooks. With only 133 minutes of league time all season, and a pathetic 'Whoscored' rating of 6.10, the 26yo Belgium winger has about as much chance of making an impact, as the Tories do of winning the next election; but with less than 48 hours of the transfer window remaining, beggars can't be choosers!!!

Benson offers versatility up front, but if he's not good enough for one of the relegation favourites, why would Leeds want him? He has only made the bench seven times this season!




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malcolmw wrote on 31 Jan 2024 06:43 pm

Musicman1965 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:02 pm I see you point of view and understand what you are saying.....The mistakes of the past management will not be repeated, we have experience and a good manager thats been there and got the t-shirt. Spense was unfortunate but the loan spell gave us the freedom to access his ability and attitude, it didn't work out- nevermind. The other players you mentioned with the exception of Byram have a long future at Leeds United. Our current crop of players will only get us so far imo, and you are right we do need additions, but this windows to me was an important part of our season and so far its been a massive failure. My fear is that the longer we stay in the Championship the more likely Archie, Pascal and Summerville plus others are targeted by other clubs.. Anyway lets hope either way that the powers that be, know what they are doing....
Your point is valid Music - the longer you stay in the Championship, the harder it is to get out - for the reasons you say and that the club simply does not have the revenues to invest.
I still think the gap between money in the PL and the Championship is crazy. I know it's pure economics, but I personally think the Championship clubs should be more subsidized than they are, maybe with better bonus and incentive schemes on top of other revenue streams?

So we sure don't want to spend more than 2 seasons in the Ch.

Timing of buying players is key. In the Bielsa days we had players and agents knocking on our door as they wanted to play under Bielsa. (still some right royal screw ups in recruiting, but point is we were more attractive to come to.)
Right now we're a bit of a risk perhaps for the really good players. Not guaranteed to go straight back up and have developed a strong g starting 11. So right now you're coming to Leeds to be on the bench for a good while.
To me, unless we find another Ampadu or Rodon, keep the chequebook closed.

I'm sure everyone would agree, the players brought in last summer - under horrendous conditions and strife - have turned out pretty damn well.

Yet some people would have us believe we've suddenly, in a few months, lost the plot on the recruiting front. 🤔

malcolmw wrote on 31 Jan 2024 06:24 pm

Ellandback1 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:46 am I suggested last Summer, that the reason the takeover took so long; was due to the contracts, and 49ers wanted to renegotiate...
No it wasn't just about him being aware or not. It's as EB says, it was not a clear-cut, black/white situation.
After poor management for ages, the contracts and rest of the administration was lightly a bit of a shambles, and takes ages to detangle.
The due diligence required was likely immense.
It's like buying a family owned business. It seems simple from the outside, but often explodes when you get into it due to poor systems and processes.

The better point is that in spite of him/them knowing all this, they still went ahead and ploughed through the s**t! So they saw the investment potential in the long term.

My take is that they learnt a lot about the mechanics of it all since 2018 as a minority stakeholder.
So in fact, I think they were eyes wide open through it, but weren't going to do more shortcut management.
Like I've said, we aren't through it yet - lots to sort out. which is why I think this window is deliberately quiet.
I take some confidence that they are essentially a sports organization, with major assets being managed.

I think it was Joe who said they built the 49ers back to the top of the NFL not by buying and selling short-term, but by prudent investing where and when needed.
I'm hopeful of the same approach with LUFC.

Musicman1965 wrote on 31 Jan 2024 01:02 pm

malcolmw wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:33 pm Oh, I see the bigger picture, I assure you. And it's way beyond this transfer window.

Don't deny we could use some cover in key positions as everyone is saying.

BUT... the bigger picture is you don't just bring in Llorente's, Aaronson's and the like to make you feel better. Unless it's the right player, you make things WORSE. You disrupt what has become a very cohesive dressing room with newbies who now have to go through the process the likes of Gruev had to in order to be a real asset.

You also run the risk of another Spense - looks great on paper but a poor fit.

We may still bring in 1 or 2 who can be trained up to be of some value come end April whether we're in 2nd , 3rd or 4th.

So let's nurture Cresswell back into the fray, get Byrum, Archie, James and Pascal fit as our main focus and keep guys like Anthony and Piroe sharp from the bench.

There ...QED.
I see you point of view and understand what you are saying.....The mistakes of the past management will not be repeated, we have experience and a good manager thats been there and got the t-shirt. Spense was unfortunate but the loan spell gave us the freedom to access his ability and attitude, it didn't work out- nevermind. The other players you mentioned with the exception of Byram have a long future at Leeds United. Our current crop of players will only get us so far imo, and you are right we do need additions, but this windows to me was an important part of our season and so far its been a massive failure. My fear is that the longer we stay in the Championship the more likely Archie, Pascal and Summerville plus others are targeted by other clubs.. Anyway lets hope either way that the powers that be, know what they are doing....

pjm2019 wrote on 31 Jan 2024 10:40 am

AcrossThePondAsh wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:37 am I agree completely, EB, their injury records speak for themselves--credit to Rob Price and his team for working true magic with the players and DF to get what we've gotten so far and in particular from those players.

I guess in this case I'm assuming we have been "active," as none of us truly know what's going on behind the scenes, or what's keeping the deals that have been attempted, or in the works, from going through. I know not knowing is one of the most frustrating, and sometimes scary, things for fans. I think there's a certainly loss of control in the not knowing, which leads to worry, hand-wringing, etc. Although if it weren't this way, what would we have to debate and talk about :)

Even with all of this, would I feel better with more cover for certain positions--absolutely. Anyone would be a fool not to what the addition cover but not at the expense of the chemistry, legacy, etc. that DF is building. But I also trust the process, especially given that they worked wonders, and damn near miracles, in the last window especially given the summer mess.
The flaw in your comments "but not at the expense of the chemistry, legacy, etc. that DF is building" is at some point we will need new players i.e. if we get promoted and even if we do not as some players will leave

Ellandback1 wrote on 31 Jan 2024 09:07 am

AcrossThePondAsh wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:37 am I agree completely, EB, their injury records speak for themselves--credit to Rob Price and his team for working true magic with the players and DF to get what we've gotten so far and in particular from those players.

I guess in this case I'm assuming we have been "active," as none of us truly know what's going on behind the scenes, or what's keeping the deals that have been attempted, or in the works, from going through. I know not knowing is one of the most frustrating, and sometimes scary, things for fans. I think there's a certainly loss of control in the not knowing, which leads to worry, hand-wringing, etc. Although if it weren't this way, what would we have to debate and talk about :)

Even with all of this, would I feel better with more cover for certain positions--absolutely. Anyone would be a fool not to what the addition cover but not at the expense of the chemistry, legacy, etc. that DF is building. But I also trust the process, especially given that they worked wonders, and damn near miracles, in the last window especially given the summer mess.
Leeds have a history of leaving their business to the last minute, and then missing out. They also have a reputation of not learning by their mistakes.

You'd expect better decision making from a Millwall fan!