weasel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:25 am https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/f ... 1-10075301

danhirons wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:16 am Pretty sure he's never been anywhere near championship player of the month so no idea where that's come from!

danhirons wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:16 am Pretty sure he's never been anywhere near championship player of the month so no idea where that's come from!

weasel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:56 am A sensible post. I don't know if the potential ban has had any bearing but it is ridiculous that we are 3 months on from it and it hasn't been sorted and there is no excuse for the delay.

When we had our winning run he was in the man of the match running nearly every game and was the EFL player of the month. As a keeper it is the highs and lows, you stick your hand out and when things are going well the ball hits the hand, when things are going bad the ball runs under your foot and straight to an opposition player.

I made the point that his anticipation and reading of the game saved us a potential goal a couple of minutes before we conceded when he was quickly off his line to clear the ball when their striker was going to be clean through. That however is the live of a keeper in that everyone forgets the good things when an error is made. Every outfield player will make the same sort of mistake Kiko made every match, you take your eye off the ball for a second as you look up to see where you are going to pass it and suddenly it has gone under your foot or you miscontrol it. Like I said though it isn't a goalkeeping mistake, just a mistake.

Baldbloke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:10 am This bloke has a possible ban looming over his head for an alleged racist insult. Would any of us want that hanging over our heads at work?
It’s obviously getting to him with it being dragged out for so long, he probably wants it all cleared up and as is so often the case once mistakes start to creep in they seem to snowball and every single mistake costs a goal or a flurry of abuse on social media forums.
He has cost us points but give the man a break, if we had players who actually score more goals than the opposition ( the whole point of football ) then he’d not be getting hammered so much by fans and pundits.
Stand Kiko down for a few games, let him sort his head out, get this tribunal put to bed and give the young lad a go in the nets so he can be abused and slagged off when he lets a goal in or makes a mistake so he can be shipped out like BPF was

Baldbloke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:10 am This bloke has a possible ban looming over his head for an alleged racist insult. Would any of us want that hanging over our heads at work?
It’s obviously getting to him with it being dragged out for so long, he probably wants it all cleared up and as is so often the case once mistakes start to creep in they seem to snowball and every single mistake costs a goal or a flurry of abuse on social media forums.
He has cost us points but give the man a break, if we had players who actually score more goals than the opposition ( the whole point of football ) then he’d not be getting hammered so much by fans and pundits.
Stand Kiko down for a few games, let him sort his head out, get this tribunal put to bed and give the young lad a go in the nets so he can be abused and slagged off when he lets a goal in or makes a mistake so he can be shipped out like BPF was

Irish Ian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:39 pm


BFP didnt make half the mistakes this clampit has, and he was vilified on here.

Irish Ian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:39 pm Weasel you have defended Kiko week after week but Kiko has handed the initiative to the opposition week after week now.
That ball was not going into the net, it was set up for him to pass it upfield, there was no pace on the ball.
Since Ipswich last season he has demonstrated that he is not to be trusted

Ipswich
Derby

Cardiff
Wednesday
Forest
Brentford
Brum
WBA

Count those points thrown away, try and imagine the effect it has on Ayling, Cooper, White, and whatever crock we decide ud this weeks LWB

Have I missed any points dropped? Probably.

Plus all the escapes where his rashness hasnt been punished.

Bielsa sidelined BFP in part because the Leeds defence has problems trusting BPF.
BFP didnt make half the mistakes this clampit has, and he was vilified on here.

I posted a vid last year cataloguing some of Kikos atrocities and I recall your reply that even De Gea even makes errors.

Maybe this is on a scale now that it is too difficukt to protect.

But I have just has a thought.

Maybe Bielsa likes Kiko and Bamford, as the lonely man ge undoubtably is, he connects with fellow Spanish speakers.
If true that is an issue that needs addressing.

gessa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:51 pmWigan

Irish Ian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:39 pm Weasel you have defended Kiko week after week but Kiko has handed the initiative to the opposition week after week now.
That ball was not going into the net, it was set up for him to pass it upfield, there was no pace on the ball.
Since Ipswich last season he has demonstrated that he is not to be trusted

Ipswich
Derby

Cardiff
Wednesday
Forest
Brentford
Brum
WBA

Count those points thrown away, try and imagine the effect it has on Ayling, Cooper, White, and whatever crock we decide ud this weeks LWB

Have I missed any points dropped? Probably.

Plus all the escapes where his rashness hasnt been punished.

Bielsa sidelined BFP in part because the Leeds defence has problems trusting BPF.
BFP didnt make half the mistakes this clampit has, and he was vilified on here.

I posted a vid last year cataloguing some of Kikos atrocities and I recall your reply that even De Gea even makes errors.

Maybe this is on a scale now that it is too difficukt to protect.

But I have just has a thought.

Maybe Bielsa likes Kiko and Bamford, as the lonely man ge undoubtably is, he connects with fellow Spanish speakers.
If true that is an issue that needs addressing.

weasel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:04 pm Tonight's mistake is different as it isn't a goalkeeping error as such just an error. Whilst this may confuse some let me clarify what I mean and this wasn't flapping at a corner, letting a shot slip through hands , coming out and missing the ball etc this was just a slip, same as can happen all over the pitch when a player miscontrols the ball. Kiko showed just a couple of minutes before that why he is the type of keeper Bielsa wants as he read the danger, charged out and cleared the ball - if he didn't do that the Brentford player was clean through on goal.

It is a tricky situation for Bielsa and you have to wonder what Kiko's confidence is like. If Kiko is still confident in his own abilities then Bielsa should back him.

Chilli D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:21 pm It was actually both.
It rolled under his foot and then he slipped trying to retrieve the situation.

Meslier should be given his chance though.

danhirons wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:16 pm ridiculous

and it wasn't a slip, he just wasn't paying attention and let the ball roll under his foot

weasel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:04 pm Tonight's mistake is different as it isn't a goalkeeping error as such just an error. Whilst this may confuse some let me clarify what I mean and this wasn't flapping at a corner, letting a shot slip through hands , coming out and missing the ball etc this was just a slip, same as can happen all over the pitch when a player miscontrols the ball. Kiko showed just a couple of minutes before that why he is the type of keeper Bielsa wants as he read the danger, charged out and cleared the ball - if he didn't do that the Brentford player was clean through on goal.

It is a tricky situation for Bielsa and you have to wonder what Kiko's confidence is like. If Kiko is still confident in his own abilities then Bielsa should back him.