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by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:37 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

Smudge, at no point did I say being against taking the knee makes you a racist. However, if you stand at a sporting event and boo, then the perception will be that you are a racist. :tup: ...And I could have been a little clearer Nick in making my point... I did not take it as you accusing me of be...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:12 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

The poppy does not represent all, James McClean has received boos and death threats because he refuses to wear it. And anthems are the epitome of nationalism and politics, God Save the Queen has been booed by Scottish, Welsh and irish crowds. The Poppy represents all those who died... not the livin...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:43 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

faaip wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:37 pm Well I think if you boo your racist... It's the most obvious conclusion to draw.
Booing is not a nice gesture at all, to anything ... but too simplistic to just paint everyone a racist who Boo's
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:09 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

Here we go, I'm nearing 50, dual heritage, born in Yorkshire and raised in the East End. Encountered the NF, BNP, C-18 and all the other manifestations. I have a diverse group of friends and the bonding narrative through it all has been poverty. There's always a space and a place where we can find ...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:04 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

Taking the knee, whatever you think of BLM, George Floyd, Colin Kaepernick etc, is a stance against racism. If you boo that stance, don't be surprised if you are labelled a racist. Strikes me as a bit of a no-brainer. The question is...is it doing anything at all to eradicate racism, or is it perpe...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:58 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

Mountain wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:54 pm So you think there is no room for the poppy or national anthems and those non football related gestures?
Absolutely not... the poppy represents all ...and the Anthems represent Nations... Showing respect to all can never be wrong,
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:57 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

Because this is a Leeds forum and he is the Leeds player on the English team who has articulated his position on BLM, taking the knee, what he thinks of those who boo etc. If Leeds fans boo at a Leeds game, it will affect him, not some random punter on the street or Nigel Farage or you and I. I ref...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:48 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

it's not a necessary part of the game of football at all. Neither is politics or racism... Just play football and footballers show respect for each other...taking the knee, standing for racism and all the rhetoric is doing exactly what the racist's want...dividing football... No room for politics o...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:43 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: NAP OF THE DAY
Replies: 36922
Views: 3300972

Re: NAP OF THE DAY

Sandown 2:10 Dashing Dick £10 WIN
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:35 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

PS... The wearing of the poppy is the least racist act that anyone can do as it remembers all those who died in service of their country, irrelevant of race, creed or colour...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:25 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

No...but neither is wearing the poppy, singing the anthem and all those gestures surrounding football that we accept and tolerate. What some people will not tolerate is the addition of just a few seconds of a gesture by people like Kalvin Phillips to make a statement against racism. You are compari...
by Smudge3920
Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:57 am
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

So who is the Protaganist and who is the Antagonist?...it certainly is not football.
by Smudge3920
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:12 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: NAP OF THE DAY
Replies: 36922
Views: 3300972

Re: NAP OF THE DAY

Superb yet again BB...killing it this month

Newbury 4:05 Aussie Rascal £10 WIN
by Smudge3920
Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:26 am
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: EURO 2020
Replies: 72
Views: 2256

Re: EURO 2020

Who do you think will win Euro 2020. IMO anyone of 3, Italy, Germany or Belguim Which team do you not want to win the tournament? Portugal How far will England go? IMO they will be lucky to get out of the group phase, if they are succesful IMO they will go out in the round of 16 Will you be watchin...
by Smudge3920
Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:13 am
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Gone on too long!
Replies: 22
Views: 935

Re: Gone on too long!

rab_rant wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:02 am Johnny Smugface on cancel culture.

https://youtu.be/91VaSkV87Ls

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This guy is a breath of fresh air ...I am finding him as funny as, well at the 'mo on a par with Ricky Gervais... :)
by Smudge3920
Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:52 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

Well It would appear I am mistaken, I was under the belief that it was league policy to "take the knee"...but all I can find is that the league will continue to support those players that want to take the knee, so maybe there is more support for it in the prem amongst players and officials than I th...
by Smudge3920
Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:41 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?
Replies: 173
Views: 4977

Re: Is it time to stop taking the knee...?

I don't think it's up to us to decide when it's appropriate to stop. We're not the targets of the racial abuse. When the players no longer feel they have cause to make a statement, they'll stop making the statement. I also don't see how this can be perceived as political. Since when is it political...
by Smudge3920
Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:33 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Tyler Roberts
Replies: 286
Views: 28322

Re: Tyler Roberts

Well one way to look at it is, it may help... now he has a new contract he might feel more secure, the pressure is off, knowing he is not going to be off loaded and we can start to see the real Tyler Roberts
by Smudge3920
Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:41 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: Gone on too long!
Replies: 22
Views: 935

Re: Gone on too long!

by Smudge3920
Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:37 pm
Forum: Leeds United Chat
Topic: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 9th June) - Leeds turn attention to Ajax ace
Replies: 30
Views: 1274

Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 9th June) - Leeds turn attention to Ajax ace

So it's a slap on the wrist for the 6 ESL breakaway teams .. 20M in fines split between all six, the cost for them of a youth player. Absolute joke...when you think that they have bankrupted clubs in the past with severe penalties for breaking the rules... Words fail at the hypocrisy of this judgme...