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faaip wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:48 am Agreed, shitty thing to say... I do agree Bielsa would have kept us up, 100% believe that and have never wavered. Now I think relegation likely...
I believe that Bielsa would have kept us up, and that his replacement will do the same thing.

I think we'll pick up the necessary points over the next six matches - Leicester, Villa, Norwich, Wolves, Southampton and Watford to do so.
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At the end of the day, we are Leeds United FC not Marcelo Bielsa FC. If you think losing 7-0, 6-0, 4-0, 5-1 is acceptable fine, but you have to accept it under every manager not just Bielsa. A lot of fans are quick to forget they didn't want Bielsa and wanted Mick McCarthy because "he knows the league".
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Sad sad day and all we now have are our memories, but what memories. I will remember him for many things but mainly for the moments that brought the tears to my eyes. The promotion, the win at Man City and the stopping to hug the disabled fan after Derby among many other happy memories.

He made us smile again after so many years of hurt. A remarkable man and an exceptional human being. I'll miss him.
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SG90 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:03 pm At the end of the day, we are Leeds United FC not Marcelo Bielsa FC. If you think losing 7-0, 6-0, 4-0, 5-1 is acceptable fine, but you have to accept it under every manager not just Bielsa. A lot of fans are quick to forget they didn't want Bielsa and wanted Mick McCarthy because "he knows the league".
Yes we are Leeds United and not Marcello Bielsa United, and I can guarantee that I will support his replacement, and give him a chance.

But there are fans (and I'm talking in general not about you because I am quoting you) that demand loyalty and show little in return.

And it's not just on the back of this season that the some critics have been baying for blood. As soon as we missed out on promotion his first season in charge they can rushing out of the woods to put the boot in. The same happened his second season when we had a rough spell midway through the season. The OTT criticism and attacks were there for all to see. The same thing last season whenever we had a few bad results.
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HarryofOz wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:13 pm Yes we are Leeds United and not Marcello Bielsa United, and I can guarantee that I will support his replacement, and give him a chance.

But there are fans (and I'm talking in general not about you because I am quoting you) that demand loyalty and show little in return.

And it's not just on the back of this season that the some critics have been baying for blood. As soon as we missed out on promotion his first season in charge they can rushing out of the woods to put the boot in. The same happened his second season when we had a rough spell midway through the season. The OTT criticism and attacks were there for all to see. The same thing last season whenever we had a few bad results.
The thing is, he did get a chance to change but refused. After the Arsenal game, where we looked a defensive shambles, he could've changed the tactics as he did last season, but kept on with a failing system. The Burnley and West Ham wins just papered over the cracks. It's been evident since the Crewe game that we would struggle this season. Some fans noted this and were called negative, yet this has all proven to be true. The idea that we'd win matches because of fitness was long dispelled. We've dropped 19 points from winning positions this season, that's never happened before under Bielsa. The warning signs have been there for a long time, but many simply chose to ignore it and stick their heads in the sand.
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A man of integrity and principal that was sadly misplaced in today's world.
Because of his adherence to tactics that were killing us it was always going to end this way. His lack of long-term commitment forced the management's hand.
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SG90 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:55 am Alright for him to insult me, Cjay, Velo, White Riot,Orange box etc on a regular basis though...
I might not need to pm you Hector, your answer could be right there in the above ^ :)

There'll be a few more cowardly lurking as well.

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Probably go either way......
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The 66-year-old Argentine's stellar reputation among his peers and his status with adoring Leeds United fans is based on steadfast principles that football for the masses must be a front-foot thrill ride designed to deliver excitement and brighten lives. :scar1

When it works it is glorious spectacle, :shirtw:

Bielsa, however, has left a body of work behind at Elland Road that will make him a hero forever with the fervent Leeds support, who have loved the entertainment he has provided for them as well as his humble approach that chimed perfectly with the characteristics of the area.

Leeds fans have resolutely refused to dilute their admiration for Bielsa, even in the face of grim recent evidence, but his unbending insistence on his own style and refusal to seemingly even countenance a measure of pragmatism has led to a decision which will create great sadness at the club and among its supporters.

Bielsa can justly point to mitigating circumstances such as the absence through injury of his key midfield man, England's Kalvin Phillips, and Leeds' main source of goals, Patrick Bamford. They have had a devastating impact on the team's effectiveness, while they have also missed influential defender and leader Liam Cooper. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Bielsa leaves with his reputation intact among supporters who are forever grateful that he put Leeds back in a place they feel is their rightful home.

He picked Leeds up from previous years of financial turmoil, plus a miserable time in the English game's third tier, and halted a rapid turnover of managers that had become an embarrassment to one of the game's great old football institutions.

Right up until his departure, Leeds fans accepted the flaws in Bielsa's plans in exchange for the entertainment he gave them, which was not without tangible reward in the shape of promotion then consolidation in the Premier League. :clap: :clap: :tup:

Marcelo Bielsa, though, is a coach and a personality who will always have a special place in the hearts of Leeds United fans. :verysad: :cry:

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look at the situation with the head and not the heart , we only have had Bielsa for 12 more matches anyway as i believe he was on his way at the end of the season , thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you did for my club and i will remember only the good times we had and you will go down in Leeds history as a great ,

i would also like to point out that a few on here are now acting like children and its embarrassing :tdown: :tdown: :tdown:
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SG90 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:09 am Let's hope we get that new manager bounce everyone else gets!
WBA haven't with Steve Bruce .
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It was becoming more and more likely to happen as results went by and I did say he should go but it makes it no less devastating for it to actually happen I feel a little bereft Reading through the media and twitter with tears in my eyes - it dosnt feel right for him to just disappear in to the night.
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HarryofOz wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:59 am I believe that Bielsa would have kept us up, and that his replacement will do the same thing.

I think we'll pick up the necessary points over the next six matches - Leicester, Villa, Norwich, Wolves, Southampton and Watford to do so.
Agree with you. I was hoping he would at least be given the next 3 games to get back on track, all against teams in bad patches themselves. Its all about survival and not sure sacking him at the moment, even though I understand it, is the right call. The last 11 games have included playing all the top 7 with a lot of injured players out so we were hardly going to pick up many pts anyway.
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No loyalty in football which a few need to realise, plenty of good managers have come and gone at clubs no big deal. I might add they get paid bloody well for the privilege of doing something the like... New man comes in does well the fans will love him , does poorly and I'm sure a few will consider him an idiot.
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Madron wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:02 pm Agree with you. I was hoping he would at least be given the next 3 games to get back on track, all against teams in bad patches themselves. Its all about survival and not sure sacking him at the moment, even though I understand it, is the right call. The last 11 games have included playing all the top 7 with a lot of injured players out so we were hardly going to pick up many pts anyway.
But Everton and Newcastle were in bad form and we lost to them without scoring.

Also Watford and Burnley took points from scum and Spurs so why couldn't we possibly do as well?
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:05 pm No loyalty in football which a few need to realise, plenty of good managers have come and gone at clubs no big deal. I might add they get paid bloody well for the privilege of doing something the like... New man comes in does well the fans will love him , does poorly and I'm sure a few will consider him an idiot.
I think he's had more than enough time to turn it around, but refused to. Any other manager would've been gone at Christmas.
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Interesting Bielsa's win rate was second only to Revie just a few weeks ago, now he's dropped down to fifth with less than 50% win rate.
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sad but had to be done
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Sigh :cry:
A deep sadness in me as to how this has all ended. I love the man, what he has brought to English football and not just to Leeds United. The respect everyone in the game has for him makes me feel incredibly proud.

I remember the sheer joy of our promotion, the lads partying at ER, then Marcello turning up and joining in with them. I was bursting with energy. That evening the bottle of fizz was already in the fridge, just in case.

Marcello has given me so much enjoyment as a Leeds United supporter, almost akin to the Revie era for me. Having someone to look up to and be proud of.

Thank you Marcello for the fantastic memories, happiness joy and pride in my club

I will never forget what you did for us

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Cjay wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:21 pm Despite the frustration and whatnot this season I doubt any Leeds fan wanted it to end like this and if it is the end then it is a sad way to go out but doesn't change what he achieved here.

It also is criminal that Bielsa goes but People like Orta and Kinnear will remain
Orta for me is as responsible for our poor results. Good Call.
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