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1964white wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:31 pm Boring Brighton only drew 0-0 at home to some Belgain team I've never heard of :duno:

The seagulls will also be in our min-league hopefully.
Brighton will be in our mini-league for sure. They'll stay up comfortably, but they will fail to set the world alight like usual. Steady team like.
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Brighton have rejected a £30m bid from Manchester City for left-back Marc Cucurella.

The 24-year-old Spain international signed a five-year deal with the south coast side when he joined from La Liga club Getafe last summer.

Brighton sold midfielder Yves Bissouma in a £30m deal last month and are under no pressure to make further sales.

Hold out for another Ben White deal I suspect.
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1964white wrote:Brighton have rejected a £30m bid from Manchester City for left-back Marc Cucurella.

The 24-year-old Spain international signed a five-year deal with the south coast side when he joined from La Liga club Getafe last summer.

Brighton sold midfielder Yves Bissouma in a £30m deal last month and are under no pressure to make further sales.

Hold out for another Ben White deal I suspect.
They're asking 50mil. Cost 15 last year. Basically saying...you want him you'll pay big for him. Absolutely right !!

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BGwhite wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:00 pm They're asking 50mil. Cost 15 last year. Basically saying...you want him you'll pay big for him. Absolutely right !!

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Wish we had had the balls to be that bold with Raph/Phillips! Truth be told, we wre struggling and needed the money: hence, in real-time, we've spent £2m (after sales) for unproven players...
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Here we go again :lol:
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Victor_Notts-17 wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:13 pm Wish we had had the balls to be that bold with Raph/Phillips! Truth be told, we wre struggling and needed the money: hence, in real-time, we've spent £2m (after sales) for unproven players...
Indeed, our squad was so threadbare, we had to sell our only two quality players, so we could increase the size of our playing staff as we couldn't afford to stand still this summer.

Joe Gelhardt will be the next star to go for £30m plus, probably next summer.
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1964white wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:14 pm Joe Gelhardt will be the next star to go for £30m plus, probably next summer.
Not if we have a 5h1te season he won't: it will be £15m :P I don't think we will have a 5h1te season tho: I hope to finish 11th-14th in the table. We will not get massively better until the 49'ers take us over fully and inject some real cash...
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Victor_Notts-17 wrote: Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:00 pm Not if we have a 5h1te season he won't: it will be £15m :P I don't think we will have a 5h1te season tho: I hope to finish 11th-14th in the table. We will not get massively better until the 49'ers take us over fully and inject some real cash...
Agree :tup: problem is this sell to buy basis could backfire on us eventually,

Time will tell.
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Similar situation to us and KP seemingly.

Given Brighton managed to get £50mil for Ben White I bet they get more for Cucurella if they sell than we did for Phillips.
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Cjay wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:31 pm
Similar situation to us and KP seemingly.

Given Brighton managed to get £50mil for Ben White I bet they get more for Cucurella if they sell than we did for Phillips.
Goes without saying, Cjay.

Impressive £15m signing, can defend & get forward, played 35 PL games, so naturally attracting suitors unlike our left-back whom wouldn't attract a glance from a top club or any other club to be fair.

Another player we are lumbered with & just hope he comes good.
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Brighton showing us how to handle interest in your players from the big clubs, just like they did with Ben White...
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He's now handed in a transfer request. Unfortunately these clubs always get their own way.
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danhirons wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:21 am Brighton showing us how to handle interest in your players from the big clubs, just like they did with Ben White...
Big difference in that we wanted to conclude the deals quickly so we had money to spend strengthening a squad that barely stayed up. We may have sat around to this point in the transfer window and still have an unhappy KP and Raphinha but not been able to sell. We then sell now and maybe net an extra £10m but are then scrambling around to buy players and integrate them into the squad. Plus other teams would be putting their prices up now as they would also have less time to bring in replacements so we maybe sell for an extra £10m but then are paying a couple of million extra per player that we bring in. We also don't know with the KP deal how much we'd have had to pay for Gyabi if we'd just been trying to buy him outright. Maybe he wasn't even for sale originally., maybe they were looking at £10m+
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weasel wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:03 pm Big difference in that we wanted to conclude the deals quickly so we had money to spend strengthening a squad that barely stayed up. We may have sat around to this point in the transfer window and still have an unhappy KP and Raphinha but not been able to sell. We then sell now and maybe net an extra £10m but are then scrambling around to buy players and integrate them into the squad. Plus other teams would be putting their prices up now as they would also have less time to bring in replacements so we maybe sell for an extra £10m but then are paying a couple of million extra per player that we bring in. We also don't know with the KP deal how much we'd have had to pay for Gyabi if we'd just been trying to buy him outright. Maybe he wasn't even for sale originally., maybe they were looking at £10m+
I get that weasel and all very valid points

...but we're a premier league club now, we've been back for two years...we shouldn't need to desperately sell in order to bring replacements in...

i know it's not as simple as that but you set a deadline for others to put in an acceptable offer for your player otherwise they stay - even if the player is not happy and you take a bit of a hit having an unhappy player, it works out in the long run because clubs know that they can't take your players on the cheap
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1964white wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:05 am Goes without saying, Cjay.

Impressive £15m signing, can defend & get forward, played 35 PL games, so naturally attracting suitors unlike our left-back whom wouldn't attract a glance from a top club or any other club to be fair.

Another player we are lumbered with & just hope he comes good.
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Jaydog wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:26 pm Surely you’re not talking about the great headerer of a football that is Firpo :duno:
I hope 64 has the wit not to answer that ....
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So Brighton turn down a valuation that is below their expectation.....

Like we did with Arsenal over Raph.
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faaip wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:54 pm I hope 64 has the wit not to answer that ....
I think that’s peer pressure
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Jaydog wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:22 pm I think that’s peer pressure
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danhirons wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:05 pm I get that weasel and all very valid points

...but we're a premier league club now, we've been back for two years...we shouldn't need to desperately sell in order to bring replacements in...

i know it's not as simple as that but you set a deadline for others to put in an acceptable offer for your player otherwise they stay - even if the player is not happy and you take a bit of a hit having an unhappy player, it works out in the long run because clubs know that they can't take your players on the cheap
A big part of our signjng strategy is that we can now show prospective players that they can improve under our management and perhaps get that dream move like KP and Raph did.

Your approach of standing in a players way could hurt that whole strategy and in fact stifle our recruitment. What ambitious you player would favour Leeds if such a glass ceiling was in place?

In the pecking order we are nowhere near the top unfortunately.

And it isnt a lack of ambition it is where we are currently.
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