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BobHirst wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 6:24 pm Serious question......Is Ali being accused of being a racist for pulling a funny face at what looks like a white man or is Mcneal being accused of being racist for saying something to a a little blond Muslim guy? I'm trying to see the racist angle in this.
It crossed my mind that it could have been a drip of sweat....

Interestingly in a recent case in Scotland where there was an allegation upheld by Uefa. The player covered his mouth and then spoke into the players ear. In effect preventing anyone being able to lipread him. Similar to today when the guy leaned down to speak to Ali.

It has been suggested that speaking to others like that may need to be banned to protect everyone from these types of allegations.
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Byebyegeegee wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 6:30 pm That gesture racist you’ve got to be kidding!!!!

Childish? Yes!
Silly? Yes!
Uncalled for? Probably!
As funny as f#ck? Absolutely!

But no way racist - what is the world coming to?
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Personally think the Burnley lad is the one looking a complete prick if he's playing the race card.
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whiteroseboy wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:04 pm Personally think the Burnley lad is the one looking a complete prick if he's playing the race card.
Agree whiterose :tup:

I didn't realise McNeil was of mixed race, says it all so many of them have a chip on their shoulder, just like all the other antics going on in football they'll make a meal out of something :(

No way was Alioski being racist, just a childish action from our stupid schoolboy.
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1964white wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 9:52 am I didn't realise McNeil was of mixed race, says it all so many of them have a chip on their shoulder, just like all the other antics going on in football they'll make a meal out of something :(
Let's not be suckered into generalisations, mate. Absolutely no sniff of that sort of thing from Kalvin, Roberts or Costa.
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1964white wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 9:52 am Agree whiterose :tup:

I didn't realise McNeil was of mixed race, says it all so many of them have a chip on their shoulder, just like all the other antics going on in football they'll make a meal out of something :(

No way was Alioski being racist, just a childish action from our stupid schoolboy.
Don't think there's any need for that, Leon, you're straying into dangerous generalisation there.
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mothbanquet wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 5:04 pm Who's it supposed to be racist against? Twats?
Idiots, I think.

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John in Louisiana wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:25 pm Idiots, I think.

Ambrose Bierce defined "idiot" as a member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling.
McNeil as a member of Burnley would certainly fit that bill. :roflmao:
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Given Alioski’s lack of filter, if he wanted to be racist he’d go straight for the N-bombs.

And wouldn’t waste him being subtle.
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I think now we will see lawyers arguing over what constitutes "monkey gestures"

This could get ugly now.
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John in Louisiana wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:25 pm Idiots, I think.

Ambrose Bierce defined "idiot" as a member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling.
Ambrose Bierce, now there's a name you don't hear too often. I love some of his horror work, it's right up there with Lovecraft.

As to the other stuff regarding Alio, it's absurd, but it's an absurd world and really comes as no surprise. They all need a sobering dose of reality.
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Irish Ian wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:31 pm I think now we will see lawyers arguing over what constitutes "monkey gestures"

This could get ugly now.
Don't be so ridiculous. He cupped his hands around his ears and stuck his tongue out which is what children have done for many many years. Monkey gestures are the arm gestures. Yes it was childish but that's it. I'm more interested in what McNeil said to Alioski....

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becchio bear wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 2:23 pm Don't be so ridiculous. He cupped his hands around his ears and stuck his tongue out which is what children have done for many many years. Monkey gestures are the arm gestures. Yes it was childish but that's it. I'm more interested in what McNeil said to Alioski....

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Exactly I feel the allegation is purely to deflect from what McNeil said or did.
Instead of getting up and punching or kicking McNeil for his unwarranted behaviour like some would have done Alioski made a joke of it, simple as that.

Don't envy McNeil once full crowds are back he will be seeing that gesture a lot when he goes near the touchline.

If what Alioski did is deemed racist then god help the all Blacks when they do the Haka :shock:
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becchio bear wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 2:23 pm Don't be so ridiculous. He cupped his hands around his ears and stuck his tongue out which is what children have done for many many years. Monkey gestures are the arm gestures. Yes it was childish but that's it. I'm more interested in what McNeil said to Alioski....

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1.Don't be so naive in thinking that he isn't being accused of making those gestures. You really think some already haven't interpreted his gestures as monkey gestures.? they have and it is why the report was made.
2. Don't think I am making an allegation that Ali is making monkey gestures I am not.
3. Please don't talk to me like that again. :tup:
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Irish Ian wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 2:37 pm 1.Don't be so naive in thinking that he isn't being accused of making those gestures. You really think some already haven't interpreted his gestures as monkey gestures.? they have and it is why the report was made.
2. Don't think I am making an allegation that Ali is making monkey gestures I am not.
3. Please don't talk to me like that again. :tup:
1. I'm not naive.
2. Ok
3. I called you ridiculous, if you post something that I deem to be ridiculous in the future then I will say so. :tup:

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becchio bear wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 2:43 pm 1. I'm not naive.
2. Ok
3. I called you ridiculous, if you post something that I deem to be ridiculous in the future then I will say so. :tup:

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mothbanquet wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:13 am Let's not be suckered into generalisations, mate. Absolutely no sniff of that sort of thing from Kalvin, Roberts or Costa.
No absolutely not with Bielsa's boys.

However the racist card is being brought up far too often imo, those Burnley lads were frustrated & wound up, then one of them comes up with a racist allegation.

I haven't witnessed racism at ER or on my travels for many years. I don't see or hear any of it where I live or whilst I'm out & about.

I don't read Twitter so I'm was unaware of the racist problems on there until the ban from sports personalities a couple of weeks ago.

One of my Leeds pals whom posts on here now & again is of an Indian origin, a lovely fella too.

Many of my favourite footballers & musicians are of a coloured race so please don't get me wrong!
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1964white wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 4:18 pm No absolutely not with Bielsa's boys.

However the racist card is being brought up far too often imo, those Burnley lads were frustrated & wound up, then one of them comes up with a racist allegation.

I haven't witnessed racism at ER or on my travels for many years. I don't see or hear any of it where I live or whilst I'm out & about.

I don't read Twitter so I'm was unaware of the racist problems on there until the ban from sports personalities a couple of weeks ago.

One of my Leeds pals whom posts on here now & again is of an Indian origin, a lovely fella too.

Many of my favourite footballers & musicians are of a coloured race so please don't get me wrong!
It's fine mate, I know we on here know you didn't mean it how it sounded. I think all that needs to be said is Burnley players = prats.

Which is another generalisation, I know, but it's one I'll always stand by. :)
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1964white wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 4:18 pm No absolutely not with Bielsa's boys.

However the racist card is being brought up far too often imo, those Burnley lads were frustrated & wound up, then one of them comes up with a racist allegation.

I haven't witnessed racism at ER or on my travels for many years. I don't see or hear any of it where I live or whilst I'm out & about.

I don't read Twitter so I'm was unaware of the racist problems on there until the ban from sports personalities a couple of weeks ago.

One of my Leeds pals whom posts on here now & again is of an Indian origin, a lovely fella too.

Many of my favourite footballers & musicians are of a coloured race so please don't get me wrong!
Are you allowed to say that!......... :)
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BobHirst wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 4:35 pm Are you allowed to say that!......... :)
I don't know, we're all coloured Bob.

I'm ready for Cornwall as I can pretend to be a local with my lovely brown tan :-D
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