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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by Irish Ian » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:11 pm

Leach bowls Harris out of the rough first ball..

36/2
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by faaip » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:45 pm

Irish Ian wrote:
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Don’t think so. The ball he got today was a Jaffa. Unplayable
That's why you have openers ..to see off the new ball, plus Joe is not a number 3...The balance of the top 7 is way off
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by faaip » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:58 pm

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Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:39 pm
Because this lot don't know the defensive side of cricket

Sir Geoffrey would have sucked the weak Australian bowling attack in & took 'em to the cleaners on the bad balls.

Geoff scored 246 not out v India, England won the match & promptly dropped him.....idiots!
The ECB in their infinite wisdom is trying to use 20 over cricketers to play test cricket. None of our batters has very much time v the red ball this season...Bowlers who toil to get anything from crickets equivalent of a tennis ball (the white ball) juts find using a proper ball under proper conditions a blessed relief.

We may have a decent opener in Burns..I'd not play him in any 20 over cricket as it corrupts 5 day technique, there is no 50 over stuff anymore so he'd be limited to the CC for me. Ditto for Root who should bat 4. Get him out of the hack and slash cricket. Stokes is a good number 6, (no higher) I like Bairstow at 7. Then I'm ok with the bowlers 8-11 (perm 4 from 6)

We need a 1,3,5 right now and I'd like them taken from the CC with a minimum of 12 innings behind them.

If I were in charge of the ECB I'd also resurrect the 60 over red ball game we had in the old Nat West days..Always was a good day out. One day cricket at it's best, the batsmen can build innings and bowlers get 12 overs
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by faaip » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:55 pm

We need a Headingly 81 to have any chance of winning the Ashes ..If we lose this one lets have 3/4 new starters in for the next
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by faaip » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:07 pm

1 - Dom Sibley
2 - Rory Burns
3 - Ollie Pope
4 - Joe Root
5 - Gary Ballance
6 - Stokes
7 - Bairstow
8 - Curran
9 - Broad
10 - Archer
11 - Anderson if fit.

worth a shot
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by Irish Ian » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:12 am

faaip wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:45 pm
That's why you have openers ..to see off the new ball, plus Joe is not a number 3...The balance of the top 7 is way off
Didnt know that, thanks...
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by faaip » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:13 am

Dripping with sarcasm, my apologies I posted...
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by Irish Ian » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:55 am

faaip wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:07 pm
1 - Dom Sibley
2 - Rory Burns
3 - Ollie Pope
4 - Joe Root
5 - Gary Ballance
6 - Stokes
7 - Bairstow
8 - Curran
9 - Broad
10 - Archer
11 - Anderson if fit.

worth a shot
Sibley is on the lions squad so he is a possibility, I think they gave up on Ballance a few years ago. Though your team needs a spinner?

Thing is though, how much red ball cricket are England players getting outside of tours? Do any play in Sheffield Shield in Oz? Or go out to SA? They are more likely to be playing Big Bash and IPL.

And that is the conundrum.

Overall what format of cricket is the priority?
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by faaip » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:57 am

I considered Dawson but again not sure we have a 5 day spinner good enough. For me long form cricket has to be the priority if you value the Ashes..and the foundation for that is more 4/5 day cricket in the UK. Even 50/60 over red ball one day cricket has some long form benefits. 20/20 or shorter is designed to make it real easy for batsmen so they don't need technique just a good eye...Great for some,will ruin the likes of Root and Vince as long form cricketers
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by faaip » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:45 am

Ballance or Northeast at 5.
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by Irish Ian » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:06 pm

Root passes fifty as him and Denly show some stoic defence.

At what point will the Aussies start getting worried?
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by whiteswan » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:39 pm

Irish Ian wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:06 pm
Root passes fifty as him and Denly show some stoic defence.

At what point will the Aussies start getting worried?
Been watching the Root/Denly partnership develop whilst reading MOT Ian. It's been a very good and very much needed performance from them. Now, if England can get to 200 for 2 by close of play, that would make tomorrow very interesting. :)

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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by YorkshireSquare » Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:05 pm

Teasing me with a score here, been a good days cricket...

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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by Irish Ian » Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:19 pm

Denly gloves one and he's caught behind.

Wonder how Stokes will conduct himself...
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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by whiteswan » Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:31 pm

Irish Ian wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:19 pm


Wonder how Stokes will conduct himself...
Being a good boy at the mo....sensible batting

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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by wilsdenwhite » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:44 pm

Good resistance this afternoon and although I wouldn't say it is finely poised at least we are still in with a chance. The key will no doubt be the new ball after a few overs in the morning. Reckon if we can get to within 100 with 1 of Root, Stokes, Bairstow or Buttler still there it could be a tense finish. 2 of them still there and I'd fancy our chances.
Proper test match batting today and we will need more of the same tomorrow. Roy has to go win or lose. Denly did his bit today.

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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:01 pm

England making a fist of it

245 for 5 requiring 114 runs to win

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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:07 pm

Can England achieve what looked a distinct possibility ?

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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:16 pm

Butler run out

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Re: Ashes 2019 : England v Australia

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:28 pm

261 for 7

England still require 98 runs

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