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Leeds Utd v Derby County Match Thread - WTF happened out there??

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:41 pm



Leeds Utd v Derby County

Saturday 21st September 2019 12-30pm | Elland Road

129 days since they last met in the play off second leg semi final (not that I'm counting), Derby County will once again lock horns with Leeds United at Elland Road for Saturday's lunchtime kick off.

There has been no love lost between the two sides. Derby instigated Spygate, blowing the matter out of all proportion having made accusations that the 'spy' was inside the confounds of their training ground hiding in the foliage with binoculars and a pair of clippers. In fact, the coach in question was not even inside their ground, and the clippers in question were irrelevant as found in the boot of his car. The Rams PR machine concluded their web of lies by saying the 'spy' was arrested, which once again was completely false.

To rub salt into the wound Derby owner Mel Morris recently incensed Radrizzani by using a third party company to purchase their own ground (Pride Park) for double what they had it valued for, then leased the ground back to the club. The 40m they made in the deal meant Derby would avoid financial fair play penalties.



Having lost the likes of Mount and Wilson, who went back to their parent clubs in the Summer, Derby have slipped to 19th in the table only winning once this term, a 2-1 win against relegation threatened Huddersfield Town. Like most teams in the Championship, I'm sure Derby will up their game when they play Leeds.

Bielsa has no new injury worries. Forshaw is expected to miss out with the hip injury that saw him sidelined against Barnsley. Shackleton stands by. Roberts and Ayling are both pushing for a return to first team action having both scored and performed well for the U23's in the 6-0 thrashing of Watford. Nketiah and Costa are also knocking on the gaffers door looking for their first league starts of the season.

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Post by SaraM » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:29 am

We totally dominated them for 3 1/2 games last season, and now they are weaker and we are stronger. I'll be disappointed with anything less than a comprehensive thrashing, and many of them seem to be expecting it.

The way they are still going on about what turned out to be a meaningless victory as their best game ever is toe curling.

Hope Keogh gets sent off and banned for life too.

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Post by hector » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:00 am

SaraM wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:29 am
We totally dominated them for 3 1/2 games last season, and now they are weaker and we are stronger. I'll be disappointed with anything less than a comprehensive thrashing, and many of them seem to be expecting it.
I agree and this is why I put us down for a 3-0 thrashing by them....... everything is stacked in our favour, so watch them balls it up..
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Post by 1964white » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:06 am

SaraM wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:29 am
We totally dominated them for 3 1/2 games last season, and now they are weaker and we are stronger. I'll be disappointed with anything less than a comprehensive thrashing, and many of them seem to be expecting it.

The way they are still going on about what turned out to be a meaningless victory as their best game ever is toe curling.

Hope Keogh gets sent off and banned for life too.
Indeed Sara as my feelings prior to the Barnsley game, anything but a victory I'd be very disappointed, same with Derby tomorrow. Our expectations have to be high if we are looking for promotion, losses to the degree of regularity last season especially against the bottom teams are unacceptable.

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Re: Leeds Utd v Derby County Match Thread - Forshaw still out, no new injury concerns

Post by faaip » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:48 am

I'll take a 1-0 win as usual ...anything else will be gravy
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Post by SaraM » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:24 pm

hector wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:00 am
I agree and this is why I put us down for a 3-0 thrashing by them....... everything is stacked in our favour, so watch them balls it up..
Not ballsing up this kind of game is a test of our mental strength, which was lacking to get us over the line last time.

A good solid win will do wonders for the confidence.

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Post by John in Louisiana » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:16 pm

SaraM wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:24 pm
Not ballsing up this kind of game is a test of our mental strength, which was lacking to get us over the line last time.

A good solid win will do wonders for the confidence.
Not to mention we need to send our fans home with a victory. Only four points out of nine at home so far. To earn promotion we need to average well over two points per game at home.

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Post by Irish Ian » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:14 pm

Thinking Costa will start tomorrow as he hasn't featured for the reserves this week.

We really need a sterling performance in front of the home fans to build up some momentum ahead of the three tricky fixtures that come after Derby.

Come on Leeds let's send out a message to the rest of the league.
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Post by Doire_Boi » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:46 pm

Nketiah to start and we win. Simples

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Post by Doire_Boi » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:47 pm

John in Louisiana wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:16 pm
Not to mention we need to send our fans home with a victory. Only four points out of nine at home so far. To earn promotion we need to average well over two points per game at home.
Poor home form and still top of the league - strange.

I think we are better away from home because teams know they have to come out and play a bit.

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Post by Irish Ian » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:02 pm

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Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:47 pm
Poor home form and still top of the league - strange.

I think we are better away from home because teams know they have to come out and play a bit.
Agreed
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Re: Leeds Utd v Derby County Match Thread - Forshaw still out, no new injury concerns

Post by Cjay » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:48 pm

Hope Costa starts.

Derby played some good stuff vs Cardiff tbf to them so must be careful.

However, Cardiff are hardly known for their sparking attacking play and yet they got through the Derby defence at will at times.

Press press press, Derby's passong at times was dire vs Cardiff, many unforced errors, we need to get into them from the first minute.

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Post by leic white 63 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:04 am

costa must start for me . will give us some real pace which we've been lacking especially early on in games.
give harrison a rest and keep hernandez on the right for now . costa can be effective on either flank !

all this talk about suggesting its just another game is utter bolloxs . we owe these bastards big time , get an early goal and i can see us giving them a right good tonking . we badly need a good home win and performance , hopefully today will be that day.
i'd keep bamford upfront and unleash eddie later.

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Post by 1964white » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:32 am

Doire_Boi wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:47 pm
Poor home form and still top of the league - strange.

I think we are better away from home because teams know they have to come out and play a bit.
I said from day one we'd be better away from home this season. Always confident we'll win away apart from our trips to Brentford & Millwall, hopefully we can turn that chestnut around this season.

Problem is apart from our missed chances the opposition come to ER with the intent of stemming the flow of our play with men behind the ball & showing no intention of formulating attacks using negative traits such as fouling in rotation, feigning injuries, wasting time at throw-ins/goal kicks/set-pieces & substitutions, etc. It is so frustrating to watch let alone play against, we have to find a way to break teams down who come to ER with this type of approach.

Taking our chances from the onset would resolve the problem

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Post by 1964white » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:35 am

leic white 63 wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:04 am
costa must start for me . will give us some real pace which we've been lacking especially early on in games.
give harrison a rest and keep hernandez on the right for now . costa can be effective on either flank !

all this talk about suggesting its just another game is utter bolloxs . we owe these bastards big time , get an early goal and i can see us giving them a right good tonking . we badly need a good home win and performance , hopefully today will be that day.
i'd keep bamford upfront and unleash eddie later.
Spot on 63 :tup:

Now let go ram it at them with a good old tonking.

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Post by rab_rant » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:07 am

The battle is not on the pitch it is in the brains. This fixture comes with too much trauma from last season. Fat Frank has gone but the baggage lingers on.

Spygate although dealt with still rankles the spirit because of the stupidity and injustice, and we hoped there might be some recompense in the playoffs, but that turned out to be a grave disappointment, which left most fans with a bitterness brewing inside.

Derby now have a new Dutch manager Cocu who is still finding his feet, and with Marriot and Waghorn up front they have the potential to score goals. Lawrence their midfield maestro is suspended and Mount and Wilson have gone. Pop eye Keogh still marshals the defence and is always a danger at set pieces.

It is not the result I would want but I fear this game has a draw written all over it. When the football does not go the way we want it then we relapse into negative thinking and blame it on gypsy curses or voodoo spells. The reasons for defeat have to be supernatural rather than psychological.

Victory lies in the space between the ears... and perhaps we are still working towards having a winning mentality at ER.

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Post by 1964white » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:26 am

Can anyone make an impact in my top five rated players

8.6 Phillips
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8.0 Forshaw
7.8 Dallas
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Forshaw could lose his 3rd place

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Post by Ellandback1 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:40 am

12.30 kick off today folks

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