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Re: Andre Gray

Post by Cjay » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:27 pm

If you go back and read about Gray from Watford and Burnley fans the issue is clear.

He is an off the shoulder, run the channels sort of striker.

His weakest area is his link play and hold up play, plus he is a striker only.

Would he score goals? Almost certainly.

But would MB pick him, doubt it, he is an Nketiah clone.

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by faaip » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 pm

mothbanquet wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:19 pm
I think, assuming we don't get Adams or Gayle (who I reckon would tear it up as a Bielsa player - IF he stays fit), the real question is would Gray be an upgrade on Bamford?
IMO easily. But I think Bamford's level is league one, a Billy Paynter clone..Maybe a half decent CF3 at our level
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Re: Andre Gray

Post by rab_rant » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:41 pm

Gray now reported to be following Bamford, Dallas and White on Twitter.
Read into it what you will.

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by BGwhite » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:46 pm

If he knows how to score goals he'll do for me .It's down to the rest of the team to keep the goals out but a CF needs to score goals !

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by Cjay » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:04 pm

Watford fans giving him huge flack again.

Unfair, i dont know but always worries me when their is almost universal desperation to get rid of a player.

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by faaip » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:22 pm

Cjay wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:04 pm
Watford fans giving him huge flack again.

Unfair, i dont know but always worries me when their is almost universal desperation to get rid of a player.
We'd love to get rid of Bamford..are we right?
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Re: Andre Gray

Post by Velotrax » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:54 pm

faaip wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:22 pm
We'd love to get rid of Bamford..are we right?
No way, his work rate is fantastic, it's just his finishing, with a proven goal scorer, Bambi can play at no 10

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by Cjay » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:06 am

faaip wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:22 pm
We'd love to get rid of Bamford..are we right?
I wouldn't.

This is different level to Bamford tbh.

The Watford fans i can only compare it to Steve Morison, Noel Hunt levels of desperation.

Hate is to strong a word but its not encouraging in the least.

Adams, Poveda, Sharp, McGoldrick, they all had some fan support.

Gray seems to have none, some sympathy maybe as a person but as a player its totally get rid asap.

Probably not helped by him being their record signing and direct competition for club legend Troy Deeney tbf.

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by BGwhite » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:17 am

Players will perform differently in another team. He may be a world beater for us...or he may not. Nobody knows .

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by hector » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:31 am

Velotrax wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:54 pm
No way, his work rate is fantastic, it's just his finishing, with a proven goal scorer, Bambi can play at no 10
But if barn door could play at No 10 would not MB have done that with Eddie as 9 whilst he was here?
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Re: Andre Gray

Post by leic white 63 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:54 am

faaip wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:22 pm
We'd love to get rid of Bamford..are we right?
don't dislike paddy , his work rate and hold up play at times is excellent but his finishing is absolute rank and is paid on the whole to score goals.
tbh we all know we need better but i wouldn't get rid . only the other week against wba he came off the bench and completely changed the game .

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by rrfierce » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:35 am

he's a backup striker at best. Not sure how he'd do in a deeper role, not sure we'll ever find out.

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by rab_rant » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:39 am

Paddy the baddie will still be playing against Millwall. He is not going anywhere.

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by weasel » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:53 am

BGwhite wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:17 am
Players will perform differently in another team. He may be a world beater for us...or he may not. Nobody knows .

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So true. If you look at our team it is only a couple of years ago that most fans would have got rid of a lot of them yet with a proper manager they play a lot better. I think a few of our players would really struggle if they went to other teams.
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Re: Andre Gray

Post by faaip » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:13 am

Cjay wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:06 am
I wouldn't.

This is different level to Bamford tbh.

The Watford fans i can only compare it to Steve Morison, Noel Hunt levels of desperation.

Hate is to strong a word but its not encouraging in the least.

Adams, Poveda, Sharp, McGoldrick, they all had some fan support.

Gray seems to have none, some sympathy maybe as a person but as a player its totally get rid asap.

Probably not helped by him being their record signing and direct competition for club legend Troy Deeney tbf.
And I have Bamford as another Billy Paynter, so ditto the Morrison thing
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Re: Andre Gray

Post by faaip » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:16 am

Velotrax wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:54 pm
No way, his work rate is fantastic, it's just his finishing, with a proven goal scorer, Bambi can play at no 10
In a one up top formation?...no he couldn't..
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Re: Andre Gray

Post by faaip » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:21 am

leic white 63 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:54 am
don't dislike paddy , his work rate and hold up play at times is excellent but his finishing is absolute rank and is paid on the whole to score goals.
tbh we all know we need better but i wouldn't get rid . only the other week against wba he came off the bench and completely changed the game .
Are they? His work rate just seems to involve lumbering attempts at closing down..Remember how many errors Roofe used to force with his work rate and closing down...can you think of many Paddy ones?

I thought he was meh v WBA to be honest

His hold up play is ok but nothing you wouldn't get from most strikers ...
I don't mean to sound cold, cruel or vicious...

....but I am...

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Re: Andre Gray

Post by YorkshireSquare » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:27 am

faaip wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:16 am
In a one up top formation?...no he couldn't..

We need a No.10 who looks forward, is on the front foot.

Roberts is ideal, he's just crocked.
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Re: Andre Gray

Post by mothbanquet » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:15 am

faaip wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:21 am
Are they? His work rate just seems to involve lumbering attempts at closing down..Remember how many errors Roofe used to force with his work rate and closing down...can you think of many Paddy ones?

I thought he was meh v WBA to be honest

His hold up play is ok but nothing you wouldn't get from most strikers ...
A fair opinion, I remember how we always looked more vital, energetic ergo dangerous as a team when Roofe was on over Bamford last season. I honestly don't know anymore, but the question will certainly be answered when we get another striker.

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