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Breaking news - Casilla

Post by faaip » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:34 pm

8 match ban for Kiko and 60K fine

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by Ratscoot » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:40 pm

Ridiculous but may even save our season Spiderboy to the rescue
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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by gessa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:41 pm

Club statement.

Leeds United acknowledges that Kiko Casilla has been found guilty of breaching FA Rule E3 during our Sky Bet Championship game with Charlton Athletic in September 2019.

Casilla has been banned for 8 games following the verdict from the FA.

We would like to make it clear that we do not tolerate any form of discrimination within our football club and we are a leader in the fight against discrimination within our wider community.

However, it is important to recognise that Kiko has always denied making any racist comment.

The FA panel have based their decision on the balance of probability rather than proving Kiko to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt, which we have always believed is the more appropriate burden of proof.

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by gessa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:43 pm

Disgraceful that they can do this without proof, just probability, that they think they are above the law.
I wish Kiko or the club would take it to the high court.
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Post by dezzy » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:43 pm

Announced at 7pm on a Friday before a game, over a week after the whole thing concluded. Disgusting. As for the charge, I’m sure he said something, but I’m also sure he didn’t intend offence.
I’m glad he finished the season with 3 clean sheets, as he won’t play again because Meisler will be too good to drop :P
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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by 1964white » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:44 pm

So 'mark that black man in Spanish' is racist

Why am I not surprised by the FA actions

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by John in Louisiana » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:47 pm

Contemptible on the part of the FA.

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Post by BGwhite » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:55 pm

gessa wrote:Disgraceful that they can do this without proof, just probability, that they think they are above the law.
I wish Kiko or the club would take it to the high court.
Without a doubt. If I was Kiko I would take it as far as it needs to go. Who the f*** do they think they are . Take them on Kiko !

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by YorkshireSquare » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:56 pm

Why is always Friday night?

This stuff should be done a couple of days before matches, ruins your preparation.
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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by faaip » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:00 pm

I'd imagine we knew a bit earlier before it was announced..Probably yesterday. Looking forward to seeing Meslier but it's not great to lose you goalkeeper at anytime. Meslier is very young
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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by rab_rant » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:00 pm

Can't Kiko appeal the decision and the bann put on hold until there is a definitive judgement from the appeals court. I don't think anybody want their copy book stained by being branded as a racist. It seems very unjust that a man is condemned on a probability. Charge me as an arsonist cos I have a box of matches and there is the probability that I might start a fire. Surely you need to look into a person's character and how they have behaved in the past before you can draw conclusions. If anyone has brought the game into disrepute it is the kangeroo court that is the FA/EFL.

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by faaip » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:01 pm

We won't need to trigger the payment though as Kiko will be back as soon as he can
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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by Muppet the Cat » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:15 pm

The 'balance of probability' as opposed to 'beyond reasonable doubt' :roll:

I'm in way condoning any form of racism, but it seems that if an accusation is made it is very difficult, if not impossible to defend yourself irrespective of the seeming lack of any substantive evidence.

However, if he did say 'it' then it's deserved and doesn't reflect well on our club.

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Post by YorkshireSquare » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:18 pm

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by rrfierce » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:38 pm

Pathetic. How can someone be found guilty with no real evidence and just base it on "probability" ? Surely that would not stand up in any court ?

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by Cjay » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:38 pm

Hypothetically if this was Harry Kane accused would the FA have come to the same conclusion? (No way suggesting Harry is racist or anything).

Balance of probability.

Absolutely mad they can brand someone a racist based on probability is ludicrous.

As Kiko says, absolutely fully support prosecution in any walk of life to eliminate racism.

But based on probability is so unfair.

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by Denman » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:42 pm

As others have said, without wishing to pass judgement if Kiko feels he is innocent it’s a no brainer to take this to a court of law. In this day and age it seems out of step and incongruous for an organisation to operate like the FA does. One could argue with some legitimacy that they themselves are operating outside the law by denying Kiko a fair hearing.

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Post by YorkshireSquare » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:56 pm

We haven't seen the details yet, they will come out next week. We can pass judgement on Kiko and his future at the club. For the moment all we can do is put our full support behind Illan Meslier.
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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by apollo » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:57 pm

Unfortunately it comes down to the word of a black player vs the word of a white player. In the current climate there is only one way it is going to go. That's not a racist statement but it's a lot easier to punish Kiko than say the black player was mistaken

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Re: Breaking news - Casilla

Post by BGwhite » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:08 pm

Regardless of his colour, Kiko will have the last laugh on the final day when we are confirmed as champions and they are confirmed as relegated.

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