weasel wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:32 am
New deaths do not neccesarily equate to new deaths from Cornona. Given that the average age of 'covid related' deaths in the majority of countries is 85 years old then the isolated figure doesn't take into account how many of the suppossed extra deaths would have happened anyway. It may come as shock but as people get older they are more at risk of dying from any number of reasons. As I stated the annual variance in death rates goes up and down so to simply claim 200,000 extra deaths doesn't simply mean these people died solely through coronavirus.
Given that many people are too frightened to risk seeing their doctor or going into hospitals as they don't want to catch Covid then many extra deaths are happening that aren't covid deaths.
Still it doesn't matter as you have your head buried in the sand and it wouldn't matter what anyone told you.
"Still it doesn't matter as you have your head buried in the sand and it wouldn't matter what anyone told you"
You don't see the irony of that statement!
"to simply claim 200,000 extra deaths doesn't simply mean these people died solely through coronavirus. "
We are not saying that.
Some people who get Covid-19 are dying, Just because some of them had a heart condition or asthma or were over weight etc, does not negate the fact that they died because they contracted Covid-19. Most of those with pre existing conditions would still be living with those conditions had they not got Covid-19.
Regarding your death rate statistics, I did some research and I found studies (published in 2019) explaining reasons for the increase in the death rate in the USA. Suicides, Homicides and a drug overdoses particularly a huge increase in Opoid deaths. A 25% increase in the 18=44 age range which is not a small number.
I know you will probably "Still it doesn't matter as you have your head buried in the sand and it wouldn't matter what anyone told you" live up to your words but I will draw your attention again to the article published by the NY Times in August.
New York Times August 12th 2020
Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual
since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.
So 200,000 more people than usual died and 60,000 of them were NOT ATTRIBUTED to Covid-19. They recognize that the number of non-Covid deaths is increasing as you pointed out
I also read on the John Hopkins web site that they have determined that that the death rate from Covid-19 is 6 times that of the seasonal flu. I don't believe that they excluded people with other health issues from that comparison. I think they just checked if they were alive before getting Covid or the flu and if they were dead later.