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Re: Raphinha - Green light for Raph!

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Depends on whether Raph was asked if he's good to go...
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Re: Raphinha - Green light for Raph!

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Anything to do with the unpunished Fernandinho assault at Man City last year by any chance?
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Raphinha indicated he needed to come off.

He is struggling fitness wise and yet he is far and away our most creative player.

What happens when his body says "no more" as it inevitably will?
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Re: Raphinha- Struggling with fitness 25/9/21

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Looked like he had ice packs on the back of both thighs.

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Re: Raphinha- Struggling with fitness 25/9/21

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Anyone who read the interview Raph did a while back will know he is hard as nails.

He had a hard start in life and grew up playing effectively street football where you played on if your leg wasnt broken.

So for him to ask to come off as MB said he must be struggling.

So a conundrum now exists.

Do we rest him for his own good and potential long term wellbeing.

Or do we keep patching him up and sending him out there knowing that we practically have no creativity without him but caveat that with the fact thay eventually he will break down most likely and miss longer than he would originally?

Its very difficult but i dont know.
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Re: Raphinha- Struggling with fitness 25/9/21

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Cjay wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:41 am Anyone who read the interview Raph did a while back will know he is hard as nails.

He had a hard start in life and grew up playing effectively street football where you played on if your leg wasnt broken.

So for him to ask to come off as MB said he must be struggling.

So a conundrum now exists.

Do we rest him for his own good and potential long term wellbeing.

Or do we keep patching him up and sending him out there knowing that we practically have no creativity without him but caveat that with the fact thay eventually he will break down most likely and miss longer than he would originally?

Its very difficult but i dont know.
Thing is that these days in the pl, they seem to have an incredible amount of technology available for monitoring injuries and strains, not to mention a shed load of highly qualified fitness staff. Surely they'll be in a perfect position to assess his fitness status and advise Bielsa accordingly. At least you'd hope they would
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Re: Raphinha- Struggling with fitness 25/9/21

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Cjay wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:41 am Anyone who read the interview Raph did a while back will know he is hard as nails.

He had a hard start in life and grew up playing effectively street football where you played on if your leg wasnt broken.

So for him to ask to come off as MB said he must be struggling.

So a conundrum now exists.

Do we rest him for his own good and potential long term wellbeing.

Or do we keep patching him up and sending him out there knowing that we practically have no creativity without him but caveat that with the fact thay eventually he will break down most likely and miss longer than he would originally?

Its very difficult but i dont know.
Such a shame we are so reliant on one player going forward who consistently scores goals & make assists

Time his teammates pulled their socks up.
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Re: Raphinha- Struggling with fitness 25/9/21

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Don't help when the opposition constantly want to foul him, and I don't mean a grealish foul either, Rapha was smashed at city last year, he was smashed earlier this year and on saturday by antonio.
He's an excellent player who will be targeted by the bully-boys, if that was ronaldive there would be hell on and an investigation.
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mentalcase wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:59 pm Don't help when the opposition constantly want to foul him, and I don't mean a grealish foul either, Rapha was smashed at city last year, he was smashed earlier this year and on saturday by antonio.
He's an excellent player who will be targeted by the bully-boys, if that was ronaldive there would be hell on and an investigation.
Without any protection from the officials.
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Re: Raphinha- Struggling with fitness 25/9/21

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Brazilian media reporting that whilst dialogue remains open between the Brazilian national team and clubs at present their is no desire on the Brazilian side to release players before all 3 fixtures have finished.

If that doesnt change Raph will not play vs Southampton and we will therefore create the square root of naff all.
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Re: Raphinha- Potentially unavailable for Southampton match

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To be honest, I'm sick and tired of all these internationals! How on earth are you expected to play a settled Premier league side :x
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whiteswan wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:58 pm To be honest, I'm sick and tired of all these internationals! How on earth are you expected to play a settled Premier league side :x
That's why we need a bigger squad, certainly would if we ever competed in European competitions in the the future.
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Raphinha ranked for Leeds v Watford

69 touches
21/34 successful passes
15 opposition half passes
10/20 final third passes
8 crosses
6 duels won
5 shots :gold:
5 ball recoveries
5 penalty box touches
4/8 successful take-ons :gold:
4/8 accurate long passes
3 fouls
1 chance created
1/1 tackle won
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Re: Raphinha- Potentially unavailable for Southampton match

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Without any doubt our main attacking threat

How much would we miss Raphinha if unavailable, particularly vs the weaker PL teams?

How does Raphinha compared to our legendary wingers from the past?
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Re: Raphinha- Potentially unavailable for Southampton match

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Deeper squad, and I'm assuming that's 15M plus per signing, would stop any progression of the U23's everyone seems to want from going ahead..
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1964white wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:55 pm Without any doubt our main attacking threat

How much would we miss Raphinha if unavailable, particularly vs the weaker PL teams?

How does Raphinha compared to our legendary wingers from the past?
Eddie gray imho was our best ever winger bar non, we’ve had some decent ones since, and some calamity ones, Rapha still comes in behind Eddie like.
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Re: Raphinha- Potentially unavailable for Southampton match

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We will be fine without him.

Give Harrison some much needed minutes.
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Yes, James/Harrison/Summerville should provide cover till January, when we are buying Khvicha Kvaratskhelia for £8.5m.

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Raph earning rave reviews on his Brazil debut.

Completely turned the game around.

Came off the bench, lifted the team, debut assist from a corner and heavily involved in creating the penalty to

And just now he creates another goal and Brazil win 3-1.

He has arrived on the world stage now.
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Cjay wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:29 am Raph earning rave reviews on his Brazil debut.

Completely turned the game around.

Came off the bench, lifted the team, debut assist from a corner and heavily involved in creating the penalty to

And just now he creates another goal and Brazil win 3-1.

He has arrived on the world stage now.
I'm really pleased for Raphinha, what a great debut :clap:

Strutting his stuff on the big stage, I bet he's over the moon with pride. Well done Rapha, we love you mate :love: :fire:

https://youtu.be/teC4abNQMCg
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