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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-54728717

NZ legalises euthanasia: Assisted dying to be legal for terminally ill people

A small country so far ahead of the UK

A government one can trust, a prime minister in Jacinda Adhern you can respect

A progressive country who stands for no nonsense & deals with it's internal problems efficiently
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Population of only 5 million.....lovely :)

UK.....65 million, not so good

Covid deaths in NZ = 25

Multiply their population x 13, NZ's equivinant death total would be around 325

UK & the rest of the world death totals significantly higher

USA = 229k
India = 121k
Brazil = 159k
England = 41k
France = 36k
Russia = 28k
Scotland = 2.8k
Wales = 1.8k
Northern Ireland = 700
New Zealand = 25

I refuse to include the Scots, Welsh & Irish in the bracket of the embarrassing English total, would be an insult to our UK counterparts.
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I reckon the NZ figures are accurate.
Where as UKs are not.

I personally know someone who died of heart failure, he was 94. His death was put down to covid19... No it wasn't. 😑
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1964white wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:55 am Population of only 5 million.....lovely :)

UK.....65 million, not so good

Covid deaths in NZ = 25

Multiply their population x 13, NZ's equivinant death total would be around 325

UK & the rest of the world death totals significantly higher

USA = 229k
India = 121k
Brazil = 159k
England = 41k
France = 36k
Russia = 28k
Scotland = 2.8k
Wales = 1.8k
Northern Ireland = 700
New Zealand = 25

I refuse to include the Scots, Welsh & Irish in the bracket of the embarrassing English total, would be an insult to our UK counterparts.
Stats... Leon I know where you are coming from mate, but you cannot just use stats that way ... You compare UK to NZ by comparison to support your post(i.e. multipling the 5 mill of NZ by 13 to get an equivalancy of the 65 mill for UK.. Then you seperate the home nations without doing the same math to make England look bad...
the very nature of a smaller population must make it easier to control a pandemic outbreak.

Personally I do not believe the numbers from any country... I think they are higher, as (IMO) all are playing it down...
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Sorry Smudge, I disagree. I think the numbers are a lot lower.
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Haighy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:25 am Sorry Smudge, I disagree. I think the numbers are a lot lower.
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Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:18 am Stats... Leon I know where you are coming from mate, but you cannot just use stats that way ... You compare UK to NZ by comparison to support your post(i.e. multipling the 5 mill of NZ by 13 to get an equivalancy of the 65 mill for UK.. Then you seperate the home nations without doing the same math to make England look bad...
the very nature of a smaller population must make it easier to control a pandemic outbreak.

Personally I do not believe the numbers from any country... I think they are higher, as (IMO) all are playing it down...
The stats are just a starting point Smudge

The reasons we have a major problem particularly during the summer/autumn months is down to the buffoons running this country plus the irresponsible braindead society we live in.

I knew we would be heading to a total lockdown as soon as we opened the doors in July, now we are back to square one more or less!

Did you know more English, Scottish, Welsh & Irish citizens emmigrate to New Zealand than any other nations people.....I wonder why?
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1964white wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:30 am
Did you know more English, Scottish, Welsh & Irish citizens emmigrate to New Zealand than any other nations people.....I wonder why?
Not that many of them though :lol: ...as still only a 5 mill population... I do think though that those Welsh that went took all their sheep with them... When I was stationed there the population was 4.25 million...and they had 65 million sheep ... :lol:
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Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:34 am Not that many of them though :lol: ...as still only a 5 mill population... I do think though that those Welsh that went took all their sheep with them... When I was stationed there the population was 4.25 million...and they had 65 million sheep ... :lol:
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Haighy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:25 am Sorry Smudge, I disagree. I think the numbers are a lot lower.
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I wouldn't put the exaggarated figures past our government Haighy, question is why would they inflate the death totals?
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You really need to look at population density - we are a much more crowded nation than New Zealand, and even 95% of the USA.
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If I was a young woman now I'd emigrate to somewhere like New Zealand

England is not the same country as it was many decades ago
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Gandalf wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:41 pm You really need to look at population density - we are a much more crowded nation than New Zealand, and even 95% of the USA.
That's because we have nearly 20 million more people living here since you & I was born!
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Mrs64 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:49 pm If I was a young woman now I'd emigrate to somewhere like New Zealand

England is not the same country as it was many decades ago
make sure you send '64 a postcard :) :)
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hector wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:02 pm make sure you send '64 a postcard :) :)
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1964white wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:50 am I wouldn't put the exaggarated figures past our government Haighy, question is why would they inflate the death totals?
Ok so is Donald Trump, that pillar of respect, truth and Honour the only one telling it right?... "the China virus is fake, all fake, I tell ya" ... :lol:
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Anyway changing tact

Even New Zealand produced the Album of 2020

The beautiful voice of Nadia

Every music lover should listen to this album at least once in their lives, a few more listens later & you would agree with me.....gorgeous album


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Nah mate...this is NZ music ... :lol:
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Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:28 pm Nah mate...this is NZ music ... :lol:
Everybody knows the Maori chant

Nadia is relatively unknown & grossly ignored :(
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radebe88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:41 pm Such an impressive country and brilliant Prime Minister. So much so me and the wife have be hypothetically looking at houses and the cost of moving there. Shes a nurse and worked in end of life care most of her career. The difference this will make to a persons final moments will be huge.
If we were younger & the thought of not watching Leeds live are the two sticking points for me.

Jill & I don't wish to suffer when we come to the end of our tether so euthanasia would be a suitable option for us
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