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Good Morning. It's Friday 15th January, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Bielsa leaps to Casilla's defence

Marcelo Bielsa leapt to the defence of Kiko Casilla at the Brighton pre press conference yesterday. The 34yo shot stopper has been subject to much abuse since completing his eight game ban for allegedly racially abusing Jonathan Leko during a league match at Charlton in September 2019, where Casilla apparently called Leko a n*****.

I use the word apparently as the Spaniard was convicted on the balance of probability. No Court in this land would or could have found Casilla guilty as the British judicial system works on facts! Since coming back from suspension, some of the former Real Madrid's performances have been questionable to say the least; none more so than his performances between the sticks against lowly Crawley Town last weekend. However, yesterday Bielsa was quick to point out what an important part of the squad Casilla has been.

No, I fully trust in Kiko. And I will do the utmost possible to help him. I think the treatment Kiko has suffered ignores the fact he is a player who played 40 games for Real Madrid. Apart from whether his performances were good or bad, we forget all the things he has done to get the team promoted.

People also don't consider how he's being treated publicly given the situation he had to go through when he was suspended for eight games and what he went through. I believe in him, his team-mates believe in him and we are close to him because we value him as a person and as a footballer.

We accept what people think of him in different parts of the media and the people, but we know his past and we know his conditions and we care about him a lot as a human being.

If someone says Caprile should be in goal ahead of Casilla they ignore Casilla’s whole career,” he said. “And everything Casilla has suffered since the eight-game ban until now. “The same treatment that was given to Casilla is similar to the same treatment the questions that have implied meaning.

A player that’s serious, that has trained, that is experienced like Casilla. A player like Casilla, who has had 40 games for Real Madrid, one of the biggest clubs in the world, and whether he can be replaced by someone who has never had one minute in the first team. What this question is looking for is to merely humiliate Casilla, because it really has nothing to do with Caprile, but of course, this is part of football.

One day, [Illan] Meslier, who is 20-years-old, gives a bad pass and it results in a goal and whether it was a good idea to replace this 20-year-old and put an experienced player in like Casilla, and in the next day the question is if a 19-year-old who hasn't had any minutes is going to be in goal because I might have lost confidence in Casilla.




Leeds eye up Rams duo as Derby face Administration.

Dark times lay ahead at Pride Park. The Championship club is hemorrhaging money, lie 22nd place in the Championship and have not paid players or staff their December packets. Short of selling their ground, and re-buying it again at a far inflated pri............ hang on, they've tried that already; their backs are firmly against the wall.

Their saving grace could be Derventio Holdings, a company owned by Sheikh Khaled bin Zayed Al Neheyan, part of the ruling family of the emirate of Abu Dhabi. They have a family net worth of 150 billion. His cousin is Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, is the owner of Manchester City. Al Neheyan has been strongly linked to a takeover at Pride Park, but as of yet, no monies have changed hands.

This has led interest from several Premiership clubs including to potentially snap up the likes of Louie Sibley and Jason Knight at a fraction of their value.


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I've heard two differing reports. Both state LLorente will start but one source says Cooper will take Phillips place in defensive midfield, the other states Cooper and Llorente as centre backs and strujk as defensive midfield
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Starting Coop as DM seems a touch bizarre...
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Morning EB et all

Kiko has lost confidence and the defenders in front of him don't trust him either, I think he wishes he'd never come to the UK and would love to head back Spain and forget all about it so let him go.

Derby :lol: :lol: we know what it feels like to have to sell the family silver and at knock down prices so I do have some sympathy for them .... oops no it's just flown out of the window, get in there and have all their best players for bugger all, then buy their next best for nothing and give them to Wigan.

Coops at DM nooooooooooo :shock:
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Surely Cooper isn't being considered for DM?
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Chilli D wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:40 am Surely Cooper isn't being considered for DM?
Bielsa once stated there are a few players in our squad who can only play in one position.

Cooper being one of them!
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I've already voiced my concerns regarding Kiko. But you just can't argue with the big man, and he's already shown more forgiveness and compassion than a sizeable portion of our fanbase. I just hope Casilla can repay that faith.

I've seen stranger things than Cooper at DM over the past few seasons...
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I hope to see Meslier, Ayling, Llorente (only if he's fit), Cooper (for a full match), Dallas and Bamford return to the side to provide some much needed solidity/confidence.

The lads should all have a point to prove after last weekend's debacle. We should always be looking to do our talking on the pitch, not in the media.

It's necessary that MB defends Kiko, he played a major part in getting us promoted and whatever his faults he's our player and we're stuck with him until his contract expires. Yes, he made errors against Crawley, but Meslier has also made errors this season and most of us have jumped to Meslier's defence. I would also say that KC was not the only one culpable against Crawley, they were all poor.

Shame there's no crowd in tomorrow, as that really would be a great opportunity to get behind the lads and roar them on to victory.

Cooper potentially at DCM illustrates the weakness/lack of depth/quality in the squad that was fully exposed last Sunday. Squad improvement will be addressed in future transfer windows.
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White Riot wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:46 pm I hope to see Meslier, Ayling, Llorente (only if he's fit), Cooper (for a full match), Dallas and Bamford return to the side to provide some much needed solidity/confidence.

The lads should all have a point to prove after last weekend's debacle. We should always be looking to do our talking on the pitch, not in the media.

It's necessary that MB defends Kiko, he played a major part in getting us promoted and whatever his faults he's our player and we're stuck with him until his contract expires. Yes, he made errors against Crawley, but Meslier has also made errors this season and most of us have jumped to Meslier's defence. I would also say that KC was not the only one culpable against Crawley, they were all poor.

Shame there's no crowd in tomorrow, as that really would be a great opportunity to get behind the lads and roar them on to victory.

Cooper potentially at DCM illustrates the weakness/lack of depth/quality in the squad that was fully exposed last Sunday. Squad improvement will be addressed in future transfer windows.
A necessity WR :tup:

We won't retain Bielsa for too long whom is getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal.

Imagine another coach with the fragility of our squad :roll:

Last thing we want is to be doing a Blunts in the future!
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1964white wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:00 pm A necessity WR :tup:

We won't retain Bielsa for too long whom is getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal.

Imagine another coach with the fragility of our squad :roll:

Last thing we want is to be doing a Blunts in the future!
Yes, mate. I'd love to see MB stick around and get us progressing on the big stage, as that again retains stability and confidence.

He got it badly wrong last Sunday, but he's got us playing great football (most of the time), back to the promised land and really brought some integrity back to our club.

With another coach we could well have been heading through the trap-door this season, so it will be interesting to see how much our squad can be improved while MB is still here, the clock is ticking.

I take your point about the Blunts, they made some very poor transfer selections that cost a fortune and they're paying the price for it. So let's hope our management team can facilitate some wise recruitment for the squad. Even if you're winning silverware you should always be managing your squad thoughtfully and improving it to stay competitive, and we're not at that level yet.

Sentimentality should not cloud the minds of those that are managing our squad.
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White Riot wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:32 pm Yes, mate. I'd love to see MB stick around and get us progressing on the big stage, as that again retains stability and confidence.

He got it badly wrong last Sunday, but he's got us playing great football (most of the time), back to the promised land and really brought some integrity back to our club.

With another coach we could well have been heading through the trap-door this season, so it will be interesting to see how much our squad can be improved while MB is still here, the clock is ticking.

I take your point about the Blunts, they made some very poor transfer selections that cost a fortune and they're paying the price for it. So let's hope our management team can facilitate some wise recruitment for the squad. Even if you're winning silverware you should always be managing your squad thoughtfully and improving it to stay competitive, and we're not at that level yet.

Sentimentality should not cloud the minds of those that are managing our squad.
Absolutely. One thing you can't afford to do in the Prem is stand still. Even then, look at Lampard... :roflmao:
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White Riot wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:32 pm Yes, mate. I'd love to see MB stick around and get us progressing on the big stage, as that again retains stability and confidence.

He got it badly wrong last Sunday, but he's got us playing great football (most of the time), back to the promised land and really brought some integrity back to our club.

With another coach we could well have been heading through the trap-door this season, so it will be interesting to see how much our squad can be improved while MB is still here, the clock is ticking.

I take your point about the Blunts, they made some very poor transfer selections that cost a fortune and they're paying the price for it. So let's hope our management team can facilitate some wise recruitment for the squad. Even if you're winning silverware you should always be managing your squad thoughtfully and improving it to stay competitive, and we're not at that level yet.

Sentimentality should not cloud the minds of those that are managing our squad.
Indeed WR, sentimentality won't be enough for us to compete with the top six let alone win trophies in the future.
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mothbanquet wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:58 pm Absolutely. One thing you can't afford to do in the Prem is stand still. Even then, look at Lampard... :roflmao:
He tries to stand still, but he's been infected by the Sack Race Shuffle ;-)
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1964white wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:35 pm Indeed WR, sentimentality won't be enough for us to compete with the top six let alone win trophies in the future.
I think competing for the top six is a long way off.

There is only so much improvement our squad can make under Bielsa, he has in my opinion taking many of them higher than they had any right to hope for, but if we were serious about top 6 then most of our starting 11 would be squad fillers at best.

I recall comments from a few seasons ago about Newcastle, when it was being said that their management were having to decide wether it was actually worth the risk of pumping £300M into their recruitment when the chances were it would only but them a couple of places in the table.

How high to we shoot and when? It looks like the targets for this season could be realised by the end of March ( they will need to be with that run of three games in April,), but I am keen to see what the plan is during the summer. IMO we should bolster that defence big time at the very least
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Irish Ian wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:59 pm I think competing for the top six is a long way off.

There is only so much improvement our squad can make under Bielsa, he has in my opinion taking many of them higher than they had any right to hope for, but if we were serious about top 6 then most of our starting 11 would be squad fillers at best.

I recall comments from a few seasons ago about Newcastle, when it was being said that their management were having to decide wether it was actually worth the risk of pumping £300M into their recruitment when the chances were it would only but them a couple of places in the table.

How high to we shoot and when? It looks like the targets for this season could be realised by the end of March ( they will need to be with that run of three games in April,), but I am keen to see what the plan is during the summer. IMO we should bolster that defence big time at the very least
At the very least :tup:

Will be interesting which direction we take Ian.
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What most, no all fan bases lack for the most part is patience... Does not make them bad or fickle fans. Things do not happen overnight, and I think for the most part on this forum everyone is on the same page...just varying degrees of patience.
IMO come the summer after a succesful season of remaining in the prem the strengthening of the squad should be as follows;
1. Defence ... The highest priority
2. An additional striker of quality .
3. CM
That said I will be happy to be guided by MB for as long as he is here...MOT
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