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Breakfast Debate The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thursday 25th February) - Leeds United expecting up to five new arrivals this summer

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Good Morning Everyone. It's Thursday 25th February, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Up to five new arrivals in the Summer - Phil Hay

Leeds Utd journalist Phil Hay has revealed that Leeds plan on securing up to five new players in the Summer, but much will depend on who exits the club. Ezgjan Alioski is one of the most likely to head to pastures new in the Summer. The 29 year old North Macedonian International is in the final stages of his contract, and has shown little interest in renewing it, even though sources close to Elland Road indicate that a new contract is available.

One of Leeds top priorities in the Summer is to bring in a first choice left back! Currently the role has been shared between Alioski and Dallas. Perhaps this has made Alioski's decision for him. Dallas is a far more versatile player, that can put a shift in, anywhere on the pitch, and give a sterling performance.

After five years at the club, Pablo Hernandez's time will come to an end this Summer. He has been an amazing ambassador for the club, and obviously we all wish him well. Jamie Shackleton hasn't taken the steps forward that Leeds fans would have hoped for. He has made several appearances, many cameo but his performances have been mainly forgettable. Is it time to move the 21 year old on?

Tyler Roberts as we know blows hot and cold. What we may not know is that Bielsa is a big fan of the Welsh International. Whilst sentiment is unlikely to get in the way of the Argentine, Roberts may be safe for another season. Helder Costa is another player who blows hot and cold. The arrival of Raphinha has certainly restricted the former Wolves ace to bit parts. My guess is that Leeds will listen for offers for the 27 year old in the Summer. Leeds also have Ian Poveda who plays in a similar position on the right wing.

Adam Forshaw has been sidelined longer than the corona virus. Even if and when he returns, will he be the same player? Leif Davis is now 21 years old. He has had a handful of cameo appearances. There are many first team players in the Premiership younger than him. Is he good enough? Kiko Casilla tenure at Elland Road will surely come to an end this Summer. He's on big wages at Leeds which will put a lot of clubs off. Rodrigo hasn't set the World alight since his record transfer to Eland Road. If an offer around £23-24m were to come in for the 29 year old, would you accept it?





Fresh injuries decimate Leeds midfield

With Robin Koch, Ian Poveda, Gaetano Berardi, Rodrigo and Adam Forshaw sidelined, the last thing Bielsa needs to for any fresh new injuries. Unfortunately for the Whites, two more casualties have been admitted to the treatment room ahead of Saturday's clash against Aston Villa. Jamie Shackleton was absent from the match day squad against Southampton and Mateusz Klich was replaced on 59 minutes after needing treatment.

After the game against Wolverhampton, Shackleton presented himself with some problems in his abductor that did not allow him to play today. We don’t have information on Klich just yet," "I have to mention that he played whilst not being at 100 per cent," "It was an act of generosity from his part. It was another difficulty we had to endure throughout the first half. I value a lot that he sacrificed himself to be able to start this game.




Journey more of a roller coaster than expected - Kinnear

Leeds Managing Director Angus Kinnear has been speaking to the YEP about his time at Elland Road, and whether it had gone beyond his expectations!

I think what has surprised me and it shouldn’t have surprised me because I came because I knew it was a big club but the size of the club and the scale of the club has surprised me which has followed the success. Not only is it owned by the city but there’s an interest in Leeds United globally which I don’t think exists for many clubs, probably any clubs outside the top six. So I think our ambition of being a top-six side was absolutely right.

I think the journey that we have taken to get here has been more of a roller coaster than I expected. But I think the way that we went up last year and the way that we have approached the Premier League, I don’t think I could have hoped for any more. The team’s performances last year and the way that they stuck together both on and off the pitch, I have always said they will have a special place in Leeds United’s history for the way they acted, not only the way they played but the way they came together over Covid.

I’m not sure the fans really realise what they did then but for me it was the best indication of side before self and it just showed how special the club is.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thursday 25th February)Hay - Up to 5 new arrivals in the Summer

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There are clearly some players who aren’t going to make the step up to being a key part of a squad that is in the top half year in, year out.

And for the sake of their careers, they ought to be allowed to move on.

There is little point carrying excess on the books, apparently Man Utd plan to release four senior keepers in the summer.

I don’t see room for both Alioski and Costa at the club - not with a left back likely to be a key target, the presence of Dallas (on a long term deal) and the abundance of wingers we have.

We might see both of those leave, with someone else brought in - as well as Harrison being made permanent.

Roberts - flatters to deceive. Get some cash back on him.

As for lads at the younger end, Leif Davis appears like he isn’t going to make it, Shackleton has a bit more about him and probably needs a spell on loan somewhere to get regular games.
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I wouldn’t be be surprised at 5 new arrivals in the summer but I would imagine it would be a couple for the 1st team and 2 or 3 for the under 23s/occasional bench.

Can’t make my mind up on Costa having just seen him have a major impact on our latest victory. His speed is electrifying which could upset many a premiership defence but like many I think his lack of consistency is an issue. On the others I tend to agree with you Elland.

The injury to Klich is a problem for the Villa game I think especially as KP will still be out.

Kinnear obviously didn’t think we were capable of being a top 6 team when he came. Surprising that as I’ve always thought we should be - perhaps it’s an age thing!
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Footballers don't play at 100% all the time, it's impossible. Raph is going to go off the boil at some point for half a dozen games. Costa actually started the season quite well then went off the boil, maybe from the pressure of having to keep Raph from starting. We have three premier class wingers in Costa, Raph and Harrison and we can stay sharp by rotating them and giving the out of form one a break for a while in the U23s to recover form

Klich is playing with an injury and subbed for the second time because of it and his performances need to be judged with that in mind. Still a high quality footballer when fit and we could get a couple more seasons as a starter out of him.

Bring in a new starting LB then Dallas gets squeezed out and to be honest he's been one of the best footballers in this division from any club at any position. To replace Dallas it's 30 mil plus and then they have to settle, come up to speed regarding system and even then get past MB's matchday selection policy

Huggins is very good, just sayin'

I'm not a Bamford fan as everyone knows but you know what I wouldn't replace him atm, not till he hits that form wall. I also have a lot of confidence in both Rodrigo or Roberts being able to do a job as striker.

I do think sentimentality plays a part, we're a family team, tear that apart with overly ego'd prima donnas and we'll go backwards quickly
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Up to five new arrivals in the Summer - Phil Hay
Think this is being well covered in the "5 signings" thread.

Fresh injuries decimate Leeds midfield
Fingers crossed not to long a recovery period...Kilch is a blow for the Villians game.

Journey more of a roller coaster than expected - Kinnear
Always liked Kinnear...good fit for the club.
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I do think sentimentality plays a part, we're a family team, tear that apart with overly ego'd prima donnas and we'll go backwards quickly
I like this quote...
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faaip wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:01 pm
I do think sentimentality plays a part, we're a family team, tear that apart with overly ego'd prima donnas and we'll go backwards quickly
Like Smudge, I agree with this quote. The team spirit is like a 12th man for us and imperative we keep that when including additions.

Per the mentioned:

Alioski: Whether he stays or goes, I think we can live without, even though he could be a useful squad player.
Dallas: Must keep. He's one of the first on the teamsheet and will see many minutes next season.
Pablo: His time will be up, but I hope some fans get to see him before the end of the season and bid him the farewell he deserves. Desperately want him to get a goal in the PK for us too.
Shackleton: Keep but send out on loan for a season.
Roberts: Reluctantly keep, but again send out on loan for a full season.
Costa: Wuld have said let go, but interested to see what he's got over the remainder of the season.
Poveda: Keep but loan might be good.
Foreshaw: Who?
Davis: Probably sell, especially with Dallas and a new LB coming in.
Casilla: Let's rid and get a decent experienced GK who can also mentor Meslier. Remember those halcyon days of having Robinson and Martyn at the same time?
Rodrigo: The guy will be on fire next season. Mark my words.
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Ron Swanson wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:43 am There are clearly some players who aren’t going to make the step up to being a key part of a squad that is in the top half year in, year out.

And for the sake of their careers, they ought to be allowed to move on.

There is little point carrying excess on the books, apparently Man Utd plan to release four senior keepers in the summer.

I don’t see room for both Alioski and Costa at the club - not with a left back likely to be a key target, the presence of Dallas (on a long term deal) and the abundance of wingers we have.

We might see both of those leave, with someone else brought in - as well as Harrison being made permanent.

Roberts - flatters to deceive. Get some cash back on him.

As for lads at the younger end, Leif Davis appears like he isn’t going to make it, Shackleton has a bit more about him and probably needs a spell on loan somewhere to get regular games.
I would put Jack Harrison in the same category in terms of blowing hot and cold. I know he works hard, but that's taken as read with modern wingers, who are hybrid FBs in the same way that FBs are hybrid wingers. Both have to bomb up and down the wing these days.

Alioski doesn't want to stay by the sounds of it - he obviously thinks that he will be a regular starter elsewhere. Good luck to him.

Regarding additions - Raph has come in and seamlessly integrated into the club and team's ethos. Probably the other 3 additions will also do so if they can overcome injuries.
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Makes you wonder just how good a team we could have next season if we filled the TBD spots and as seems likely, that we don't A) hold onto Casilla, Alioski, Foreshaw, Berardi, B) send no one out on loan, C) retain Harrison, and D) Some of the U23s make the step up:

GKs: Meslier, TBD
RB: Ayling*, Drameh
CB: Llorente*, Koch*, Struijk, Cooper, Cresswell, Casey
LB: Dallas*, Huggins*, TBD, Davis?
DM: KP*, TBD, Kenneh?
CM/AM: Klich, Rodrigo*, Shackleton, TBD
RW: Rapha*, Costa*, Poveda, Summerville
LW: Harrison*, TBD
ST: Bamford, Roberts*, Gelhardt*, Greenwood*

* these players can play multiple positions and positioned in their primary place under Bielsa:
Ayling: LB, CB
Dallas: LB, LW, RB, RW, CM
Llorente: CB, DM
Koch: CB, DM
Huggins: LB, LW?
KP: DM, CB
Rodrigo: AM, ST, RW
Rapha: RW, AM, LW, (ST?)
Costa: RW, LW
Harrison: LW, RW
Roberts: ST, AM
Gelhardt: ST, AM
Greenwood: ST, AM

Makes me realize just how flexible the squad is, but despite that even though any one of the right wingers could play left wing, we are weak in that position for dedicated left wingers. Our whole left side looks a weak link going into next season, so something I expect to be resolved by Bielsa/Orta and co.

TBD clearly then is backup GK, LB, LW, CM/AM, and potentially DM depending on how Bielsa sees Llorente/Koch as backups.

The summer transfer season promises to be intriguing at the very least.
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Lumiukko wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:04 pm Makes you wonder just how good a team we could have next season if we filled the TBD spots and as seems likely, that we don't A) hold onto Casilla, Alioski, Foreshaw, Berardi, B) send no one out on loan, C) retain Harrison, and D) Some of the U23s make the step up:

GKs: Meslier, TBD
RB: Ayling*, Drameh
CB: Llorente*, Koch*, Struijk, Cooper, Cresswell, Casey
LB: Dallas*, Huggins*, TBD, Davis?
DM: KP*, TBD, Kenneh?
CM/AM: Klich, Rodrigo*, Shackleton, TBD
RW: Rapha*, Costa*, Poveda, Summerville
LW: Harrison*, TBD
ST: Bamford, Roberts*, Gelhardt*, Greenwood*

* these players can play multiple positions and positioned in their primary place under Bielsa:
Ayling: LB, CB
Dallas: LB, LW, RB, RW, CM
Llorente: CB, DM
Koch: CB, DM
Huggins: LB, LW?
KP: DM, CB
Rodrigo: AM, ST, RW
Rapha: RW, AM, LW, (ST?)
Costa: RW, LW
Harrison: LW, RW
Roberts: ST, AM
Gelhardt: ST, AM
Greenwood: ST, AM

Makes me realize just how flexible the squad is, but despite that even though any one of the right wingers could play left wing, we are weak in that position for dedicated left wingers. Our whole left side looks a weak link going into next season, so something I expect to be resolved by Bielsa/Orta and co.

TBD clearly then is backup GK, LB, LW, CM/AM, and potentially DM depending on how Bielsa sees Llorente/Koch as backups.

The summer transfer season promises to be intriguing at the very least.
Phil Hay's views ; https://tbrfootball.com/phil-hay-says-l ... bined-20m/
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CHAPELALLMAN wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:45 am Phil Hay's views ; https://tbrfootball.com/phil-hay-says-l ... bined-20m/
I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Roberts loaned out and Costa sold.
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