Marching On Together

Clacton White wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:47 pm The premier League killed it

YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:09 pm As Scotland exit the Euros, celebrating their nil nil draw with England as though they had won the World Cup I have to ask. What happened to football in Scotland?

Scotland was arguably at the forefront of the early professional game, with new formations and tactics developing north of the border. When teams turned professional in England there was a mass movement of Scottish players south of the Tweet as Scottish players were regarded to be more technical and professional. Even throughout the last century there were some fantastic Scottish players, many of them plying their trade in England. The great Don Revie side was of course built around a strong Scottish core, starting with Bobby Collins but continuing with the likes of Bremner, Lorimer, Gray, Jordan and McQueen.

So what happened to Scottish football? Where did their production line of great players go?


Billy Bremner
Denis Law
Joe Jordan
Frank Gray
Eddie Gray
Bobby Collins
Peter Lorimer
Gordon McQueen
Alan Hansen
Kenny Dalglish
Graeme Souness
David Harvey

Mountain wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:54 pm We'd love to have a team as good as Scotland.

Signed - every Irish football fan!

They have some fine players like Robertson and Tierney. I think a lot of teams in recent years, Portugal, Wales etc have found you can go far on just 1 or 2 great players who are proud to wear the national jersey and a good team spirit.

Boo Radley wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:09 am Slovakia scraped past the Rep. of Ireland in a penalty shootout in the Qualifiers semifinal and only beat Northern Ireland by a single goal in the Qualifier final.

They went on the beat Poland, narrowly lose to Sweden and were eventually hammered by Spain.

If there was one team from Ireland, as there is for virtually every other sport (rugby, swimming, hockey, rowing, boxing, athletics, etc.etc.), then we would qualify for more tournaments and do better in them. The fact that the two Irish teams often qualify and do relatively well is nothing short of miraculous. But it is ridiculous, and a real shame, that there isn’t one team.

Irish Ian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:17 am The Southern side defected in the 1920s so they should repent, ask forgiveness and come back into the fold.

Also you didn't mention cricket, we are crap at thst also.

Irish Ian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:17 am The Southern side defected in the 1920s so they should repent, ask forgiveness and come back into the fold.

Also you didn't mention cricket, we are crap at thst also.

Lorimer46 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:02 pm There's a lot of factors to consider here , In my opinion, the downfall started with the Graeme Souness revolution at Ibrox , Rangers started to spend money and bring in players from England and overseas Celtic quickly followed and to a lesser extent so did the other clubs in the Premier league . I had no problem with guys like Larsson , Laudrup or Gazza coming into Scottish football seeing a player like Frank Sauzie playing for Hibs was fantastic, problem was a lot of the players where not good enough and where no better than our own youngsters . The development of homegrown talent was neglected and a generation of players was lost and it wasn't until the collapse of the TV money and the subsequent financial restrictions that many of the clubs faced that they started look to developing our own young players again .
Other problems include the lack of green spaces for kids to get out and kick a ball about, there's no kids playing football with a tennis ball in the street these days .
Also there are so many other sporting options for kids nowadays not every young boy or girl wants to be the next Billy Bremner ,Kenny Dalglish or Rose Reilly , but hopefully with players like Andy Robertson, Billy Gilmour Kevin Nesbit or Kim Little that might change , young players need a hero to emulate I just wish it was a Liam Cooper rather than a Leo Messi they wanted to be

YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:14 pm Scotland's squad for Euro 92 was pretty terrible, McCoist, McAllister and Nevin aside.

Think their decline had set in before the Premier League started.

Lorimer46 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:02 pm There's a lot of factors to consider here , In my opinion, the downfall started with the Graeme Souness revolution at Ibrox , Rangers started to spend money and bring in players from England and overseas Celtic quickly followed and to a lesser extent so did the other clubs in the Premier league . I had no problem with guys like Larsson , Laudrup or Gazza coming into Scottish football seeing a player like Frank Sauzie playing for Hibs was fantastic, problem was a lot of the players where not good enough and where no better than our own youngsters . The development of homegrown talent was neglected and a generation of players was lost and it wasn't until the collapse of the TV money and the subsequent financial restrictions that many of the clubs faced that they started look to developing our own young players again .
Other problems include the lack of green spaces for kids to get out and kick a ball about, there's no kids playing football with a tennis ball in the street these days .
Also there are so many other sporting options for kids nowadays not every young boy or girl wants to be the next Billy Bremner ,Kenny Dalglish or Rose Reilly , but hopefully with players like Andy Robertson, Billy Gilmour Kevin Nesbit or Kim Little that might change , young players need a hero to emulate I just wish it was a Liam Cooper rather than a Leo Messi they wanted to be