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O'Leary vs Bielsa

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Which team wins?

Manager David O'Leary

Formation 4-4-2

Transfer fees are calculated using a calculator which converts prices to a modern day value.

Gk- Nigel Martyn- £4.4mil
Rb- Gary Kelly- Academy
Lb- Ian Harte- Academy
Cb- Rio Ferdinand- £31mil
Cb- Lucas Radebe £522,000

Rw- Lee Bowyer- £5.5mil
Lw- Harry Kewell - academy
Cm- David Batty- £8.1mil
Cm- Olivier Dacourt- £12.8mil

St- Alan Smith- Academy
St- Mark Viduka.- £10.6mil

Subs Paul Robinson
Danny Mills-£7.4mill
Jonathan Woodgate- Academy
Erik Bakke- £3.2mil
Jason Wilcox- £7.1mil
Dominic Matteo- £10.6mil
Robbie Keane- £19mil

Total rounded to £122million


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Manager- Marcelo Bielsa.

Formation 4-1-4-1

Gk- Illan Meslier
Rb- Luke Ayling
Lb- Stuart Dallas
Cb- Liam Cooper
Cb- Diego Llorente

Dm- Kalvin Phillips

Rw- Raphinha
Lw- Jack Harrison
Cm- Mateusz Klich
Cm- Rodrigo

St- Patrick Bamford

Subs
Kristoffer Klaesson
Jamie Shackleton
Junior Firpo
Pascal Struijk
Daniel James
Tyler Roberts
Robin Koch

All players are fully fit and in top form for both teams.
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IMO the O’Leary team 99 times out of 100

However, for context Cjay perhaps you ought to also put how much £££ it cost to put each of those teams together.
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Dolly without doubt for me, especially if I can transfer Rapha for Kewell.
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BTW, Nigel Martyn was a very unlucky world class keeper kept out by Seaman, years before 2 class keepers in Shilton & Clemence alternated, which would have seen NM with more deserved caps than he actually got.
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Muppet the Cat wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:05 pm IMO the O’Leary team 99 times out of 100

However, for context Cjay perhaps you ought to also put how much £££ it cost to put each of those teams together.
I actually had worked out the cost of the O'Learu team before posting using an inflation calculator.

I have posted it now.

But the thing is football has moved on a lot.

I haven't worked out the total cost but id imagine the Bielsa one is more expensive
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mentalcase wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:11 pm BTW, Nigel Martyn was a very unlucky world class keeper kept out by Seaman, years before 2 class keepers in Shilton & Clemence alternated, which would have seen NM with more deserved caps than he actually got.
Fair comment MC, Nigel was a great goalie and should have got more caps for England. I don't think Seaman saved any penalties in the shoot outs v Germany in 96, and 98 v Argentina. Also got caught out by that fluke from Rapha's mate Ronaldinho in the QF v Brazil in 2002.

Would fancy DOL's team to beat the current side, but that DOL team cost a lot of :$$:
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Cjay wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:17 pm I actually had worked out the cost of the O'Learu team before posting using an inflation calculator.

I have posted it now.

But the thing is football has moved on a lot.

I haven't worked out the total cost but id imagine the Bielsa one is more expensive
I don't understand your valuations CJ, ferdinand was sold for £31 million not bought, batty like kewell was home grown !!
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mentalcase wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:23 pm I don't understand your valuations CJ, ferdinand was sold for £31 million not bought, batty like kewell was home grown !!
I've used an inflation calculator.

It takes the cost of the player in the year he was signed and inflates it to reflect the changes in values over the year.

So it takes £1mil in 1998 and inflates it to its modern equivalent for example
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The O'Leary team would win but the Bielsa team (and manager) is infinitely more loveable........in fact, if I'm honest, aside from a few exceptions, I have very little real affection for the majority of that DOL side.
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A quick count and I think the Bielsa team is more expensive.

Haven't worked the Bielsa team out exactly but.

Raph-17mil
Llorente £18mil
Rodrigo-£30mil
James-£25mil
Firpo£13mil
Bamford-£7mil
Harrison £11mil
Meslier £6mil

That's £127mil by themselves
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Cjay wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:34 pm A quick count and I think the Bielsa team is more expensive.

Haven't worked the Bielsa team out exactly but.

Raph-17mil
Llorente £18mil
Rodrigo-£30mil
James-£25mil
Firpo£13mil
Bamford-£7mil
Harrison £11mil
Meslier £6mil

That's £127mil by themselves
We're ignoring the 20 years of inflation then........😁
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Durly wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:29 pm The O'Leary team would win but the Bielsa team (and manager) is infinitely more loveable........in fact, if I'm honest, aside from a few exceptions, I have very little real affection for the majority of that DOL side.
Our current squad is much more loveable.
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Durly wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:40 pm We're ignoring the 20 years of inflation then........😁
Not at all :)

In the opening post I have already worked out the cost of the O'Leary team using an inflation calculator which has converted the fees to a 2021 equivalent.

Much more money in football now.
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Not much love for my childhood team :(

I will go against the grain then, i adored that O'Leary team.

For someone to young to remember Revie or Wilko the O'Leary years are as good as it got.

Great times.

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Revies Aces tops the lot by far for me
Followed by Wilkos Wonders
Bielsa' Beauties and Dollys Darlings neck & neck , if, Bielsa stays and we can challenge in europe then things might change (CL & Uefa semi was something special like) but, so is anyone who can drag us from the doldrums after 16 years.
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I count 8 International in the Bielsa team... how many in the O'leary team?

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Cjay wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:53 pm Not much love for my childhood team :(

I will go against the grain then, i adored that O'Leary team.

For someone to young to remember Revie or Wilko the O'Leary years are as good as it got.

Great times.

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I loved them at the time but my love for them has not aged well. Out of the players mentioned, I still have a huge soft spot for Big Nige, Lucas, Dom and to a lesser extent Gary Kelly and Batts (although in the case of the latter, that's more for his first spell with us). The actions of many of the others still leaves a very bitter taste, sadly.
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rab_rant wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:31 pm I count 8 International in the Bielsa team... how many in the O'leary team?

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mentalcase wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:09 pm Dolly without doubt for me, especially if I can transfer Rapha for Kewell.
I wouldn’t be so hasty mc.

Harry Kewell, at his best, imo was probably the most naturally gifted player we’ve ever produced - he had everything, fantastic ball control, fantastic dribbling skills, an unusual ability to do the unexpected, a great shot with either feet, combine all that with scintillating speed and he could have been one of, if not the best player in the world.

Unfortunately he was lumbered with a poor work ethic and terrible attitude which let him down badly. So yes, you’re probably right to take Raphinha!

Overall though I think O’Leary’s team takes it.
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Cjay wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:46 pmAll.of them
At that particular time or later in their careers... Just asking
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