The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 1st July) - One in, one out as Phillips undergoes medical

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Good Morning. It's Friday 1st July, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


One in, one out as Phillips undergoes medical

Leeds fans will bid a final farewell to Kalvin Phillips later on today, after twelve years of loyal service at Elland Road. Phillips, just back from holiday yesterday, will undergo a Medical at the Etihad this morning, before signing a four year contract, believed to be worth £150,000 a week. In contrast, Leeds have made good of a bad situation by managing to capture one of Citeh's brightest prospects. Darko Gyabi is will undergo a medical at Thorp Arch this morning before penning a long term deal.

Manchester Evening News reporter Simon Bajkowski has revealed that Manchester City will benefit from any future success Leeds will have from Gyabi by inserting clauses in the £5m deal!

The two announcements should be at similar times but any delay wouldn’t suggest anything is wrong. Gyabi looks an excellent prospect from what I’ve seen, but £5m is a significant amount of money for someone who hasn’t played any senior football and there will be clauses in the deal to benefit City should he go on to thrive at Leeds.




Brighton dismiss Camera interest

'The Argus' have dismissed claims that Brighton are pursuing RB Salzburg Midfielder Mohamed Camara. The West Sussex local rag quoted a well-placed source close to the club, claiming that having sold Bissouma to Spurs recently, they are likely to be linked with many midfielders.

The Argus have been told this afternoon that Camara is a player of whom Albion are aware of but nothing more at this stage; they are likely to be linked with numerous midfielders after selling Yves Bissouma to Tottenham.




Are Leeds punching above their weight in pursuit of De Ketelaere

Leeds journalist Beren Cross has suggested that Leeds have their work cut out this Summer if they're to land Brugge star Charles De Ketelaere. The 21yo Belgium International Striker has appeared on the radar of many top European outfits, including Serie A Champions AC Milan. Even if Leeds are able to table the estimated £35m asking price needed, there is still the question of wages, as well as the lure of European football. They also need to fend off interest closer to home, with Leicester City among those desperate for his signature.

De Ketelaere is wanted by a host of top European clubs, the foremost of which is AC Milan. The Serie A champions will have Champions League football as well as an eye-watering salary to offer the Belgian, which will understandably make it tough for Leeds. The Whites will be pinning a lot on the exposure the Premier League provides.




Firpo needs competition

During his latest Q & A session, Leeds-Live journalist Beren Cross revealed that he would like to see Leeds invest in another left back to provide competition for Junior Firpo. The 25 year old had a disappointing first season at Elland Road, though according to Cross, the transition from Spain to England can be difficult! Do Leeds need to bring another left back in? Although they have adaquate cover from Dallas (hopefully around Christmas time), Struijk and Hjelde, none of the three are specialists in that position! According to Cross...

I'd like to see investment to provide competition for Firpo because he seems to have a clear run at it based on the current squad shape. It was a tough first year for the former Barcelona man, but you have to give him that second season to make a go of it. That first year can be a acclimatising period for new faces, especially from Spain.

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Maybe it's standard practice, but City inserting sell-on clauses in the Darko deal suggests they expect him to go on to great things, so perhaps that's a positive for us?

Like the look of Camara, but think we're on a beaten docket re CDK, can't see how we compete with AC on that one.

Re Firpo, no s**t, Beren?! A blind man on a galloping horse could see we need depth there.
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Saying Firpo needs competition is a polite journalistic term. Whilst positionally getting caught out is to some degree understandable as the EPL is generally faster paced than La Liga, hIs technical defensive frailties have nothing to do with transition. I watched him square up too many times against pacey wingers and get brushed aside. To compete he had to foul hence his number of cards.

We need another LB starter and he needs to fight and earn the position if he is capable of doing so.
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lufc1304 wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:22 am Re Firpo, no s**t, Beren?! A blind man on a galloping horse could see we need depth there.
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Darko Giyabi hardly counts as one in as philips leaves, he aint figuring in the premier league, i expect this Raphinha saga to end today hopefully and hope to see another 4 coming in before kick off starts.
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With the club saying there will be more of defined line between the under 23 and the first team it will be interesting to see which side Gyabi falls on - 5 million is a fair amount for a prospect so possible the club see him as a first teamer or at least not far off.

Everyone but the club seems to have written firpo off, And I can’t blame them really judging on what we have seen and at 25 he isn’t a youngster, let’s see where he is after pre season, seems daft not to bring in backup though.

We do seem to be going after players perhaps a bit out of our league and a bit depressing that our main attraction is to be a stepping stone club, just hope orta reads the signs and moves on if it dosnt look like happening - can’t afford to mess around this summer.
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We absolutely need cover for Firpo, even if Dallas is back for EPL season part II, which I doubt, he's not great LWB himself.. Gyabi is gonna be great, maybe one for later in the season, atm there's not much in front of him (Bate, Shackleton ?)
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faaip wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:06 am We absolutely need cover for Firpo, even if Dallas is back for EPL season part II, which I doubt, he's not great LWB himself.. Gyabi is gonna be great, maybe one for later in the season, atm there's not much in front of him (Bate, Shackleton ?)
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Also, looks like Charlie Cresswell will spn next season at the Den.
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Chilli D wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:39 am Leif Davis is back at ER and training. Just saying...
Did Drameh come back too?
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Good riddance to phillips, hope this darko has a good career with us, who ever we are going for, we need it to happen asap, can't go into pre season with no DMF, LB or CF, also back up keeper, didn't we learn anything from last season !!
The LB needs to be a starter because firpo clearly isn't good enough, he's not good enough as cover yet, so for me would need to show serious signs of improvement before he gets anywhere near the first team, as I've said often before, try Harrison or James in that spot, but please, not firpo.
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So we've sign a player who probably won't even kick a ball for the first team this season for £5m.

Only at Leeds. :|
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mentalcase wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:05 pm Good riddance to phillips, hope this darko has a good career with us, who ever we are going for, we need it to happen asap, can't go into pre season with no DMF, LB or CF, also back up keeper, didn't we learn anything from last season !!
The LB needs to be a starter because firpo clearly isn't good enough, he's not good enough as cover yet, so for me would need to show serious signs of improvement before he gets anywhere near the first team, as I've said often before, try Harrison or James in that spot, but please, not firpo.
I appreciate you are passionate about the club, but KP has been a great servant - why say good riddance. This is the nature of the game, club loyalty is a myth that fans buy into. One club players are few and far between these days. He has an opportunity to take his game to the next level, can’t deny him the opportunity. I Hope he does well except when he is playing against us.
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Rook wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:26 pm So we've sign a player who probably won't even kick a ball for the first team this season for £5m.

Only at Leeds. :|
Nothing wrong with buying promise. But 5m is a luxurious and a massive gamble when we haven’t yet sorted out the first team squad. I hope under Marsch the young players are loaned to progress their development - playing well during a loan period increases player value significantly - you only have to look at Spence.
Not convinced Millwall is anywhere near the best move for Cresswell. Burnley under Company ( assuming they are going to lose a couple of their mainstay CB’s) or Swansea would have been better for his development IMO.
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DDB220 wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:25 pm Nothing wrong with buying promise. But 5m is a luxurious and a massive gamble when we haven’t yet sorted out the first team squad. I hope under Marsch the young players are loaned to progress their development - playing well during a loan period increases player value significantly - you only have to look at Spence.
Not convinced Millwall is anywhere near the best move for Cresswell. Burnley under Company ( assuming they are going to lose a couple of their mainstay CB’s) or Swansea would have been better for his development IMO.

The majority of youngsters we send out on loan to 'progress their development' end up leaving on free transfers when their contracts are up.
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DDB220 wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:25 pm Nothing wrong with buying promise. But 5m is a luxurious and a massive gamble when we haven’t yet sorted out the first team squad. I hope under Marsch the young players are loaned to progress their development - playing well during a loan period increases player value significantly - you only have to look at Spence.
Not convinced Millwall is anywhere near the best move for Cresswell. Burnley under Company ( assuming they are going to lose a couple of their mainstay CB’s) or Swansea would have been better for his development IMO.
Sadly that seems to be the going rate these days.

I do, however, think the kid is the real deal and we'll consider this money well spent, perhaps even by the end of the upcoming season.

And then again, I could simply be whistling past the graveyard. :)
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DDB220 wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:17 pm I appreciate you are passionate about the club, but KP has been a great servant - why say good riddance. This is the nature of the game, club loyalty is a myth that fans buy into. One club players are few and far between these days. He has an opportunity to take his game to the next level, can’t deny him the opportunity. I Hope he does well except when he is playing against us.
I never rated phillips, until bielsa came he was on a one way ticket to scunthorpe or worse, yea, since then he's done well, but imho, he's way above his station, thinks he's actually better than he is, £40 odd million for a home grown is brilliant, but, could we have more if he wasn't so loyal to man city !!
I will still cheer him on for England like.
BTW, I fully agree with your assessment regarding CC and his future development, Burnley under VK or Swansea would seem a better fit.
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Another rumour from the mill today is that we may have signed Sonny Perkins of West Ham. He has decided to leave Wet Spam and they are furious about it. No news on which club it is he has decided to join, but Leeds are one of the favourites to sign him, with Villa and the Barcodes two of the others in the hunt.
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Man City sold a U23 player 3/4 years ago with about 10 minutes of first team work for about 15M so nothing new in this..
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Rook wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:53 pm The majority of youngsters we send out on loan to 'progress their development' end up leaving on free transfers when their contracts are up.
That is because we have been sending the players out who are surplus to requirements. Our best youngsters are kept at the club to play under 23’s. Joffy, Greenwood, Summerville and Drameh would have benefited enormously from a FULL season out on loan.
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