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Good Morning. It's Monday 4th July, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Cashing in on Phillips was the right thing to do

Former Striker Brian Deane believes that £42m is a fair price for Kalvin Phillips, and Leeds should be able to put the money to good use. Deane, famed for scoring the very first Premier League goal, back in 1992 (5 mins against Manchester Utd) enjoyed a playing career spanning over twenty years, including two spells at Elland Road. His no nonsense approach and physical attributes on the field made him a fan favourite on the terraces.

After twelve years of loyal service, the Yorkshire Pirlo will pen a four-year deal at the Etihad, worth an estimated £85,000 - £125,000 (depending on which sources you believe). Whilst Phillips will be sorely missed, Deane believes that it's a good deal for a holding midfielder and uses Yves Bissouma (£35m to Spurs) and Idrissa Gueye (available for a nominal fee from PSG) as other examples.

Even when fit, Phillips struggled last season to hit the kind of form we have been used to, both for Leeds and England; and the former marksman has expressed his concern that he won't find life easy at the Etihad! Speaking exclusively to the Breakfast Debate, Deane said...

The sale of Kalvin Phillips makes sense. If you can get good money for a holding midfielder, you’d take it! I don’t think it’s the kind of position that you build your team around. There are some very good technical players out there that are a lot cheaper, that you can develop! Cashing in was the right thing to do!

I think £42m was a fair price. If you look at Yves Bissouma, or Idrissa Gueye, there are other options out there. It will be interesting to see how he settles in at Manchester City because one of the things that I noticed at the last England game, was there were times as a midfield player, that he should perhaps have dropped and make better angles and try to draw the opposition out of position.

I think Kalvin was having a hard time, and as a result, there were less options for our two centre halves. If you do that at Manchester City, it will cause a blockage. He will have to learn their system; it’s never easy to a club where everyone is a superstar; it doesn’t matter who you are, you still have to go and prove yourself. It was the same for me when I went to Leeds. I tried to fit in, instead of being myself, and it was only when realised I had to play my game, that I threw those shackles off.




Leeds ready to activate Camera's release clause

Austrian news outlet, the 'Salzburger Nachrichen' have stated that Leeds are ready to activate the £25.9m (€30m) release clause of Mohamed Camera. The Malian international, tipped as the ‘new Kante’ has made a huge impact at Red Bull Salzburg since signing from Swiss outfit FC Liefering in the summer of 2019.

The story holds credence. The Salzburger Nachrichen broke the story about Brenden Aaronson signing for Leeds back in January. Should Leeds be successful, it will be the third Salzburg player moving to West Yorkshire this Summer.





Leeds Prepping €15m offer for Adams

Leeds Utd pursuit of Mohamed Camera may have been thrown into doubt after it was revealed that Tyler Adams could be available for loan! The 23 year old USA International Midfielder has fallen out of favour with new Leipzig Coach Domenico Tedesco who replaced Jesse Marsch last December.

It is believed that the hierarchy at the Bundesliga outfit are reluctant to deal with Leeds until the Jean-Kevin Augustin fiasco has been sorted out, even though Adams himself has expressed his desire to link with his former boss! If Leipzig refuse to sanction Adams sale to Elland Road, why would they allow a loan deal?

Nevertheless, Sky Deutchsland last night reported that Victor Orta was 'prepping an opening £12.9m (€15m) offer', hoping to make the move permanent. It was revealed last week by Phil Hay, that even though the JKA dispute remains unsolved, Orta has a very good relationship with the Leipzig hierarchy.





Orta gets his man after 18 month pursuit

Darko Gyabi will become Leeds fourth signing of the season later today, penning a long term contract at Elland Road in the process. Many expected the announcement to take place shortly after passing his medical on Friday, but as Kalvin Phillips (going the other way) had only returned from holiday that previous afternoon, the paperwork was held up.

It has been revealed that Leeds also had their eye on Romeo Lavia (now headed for Southampton) and James McAtee, but after City made a beeline for Kalvin Phillips, Orta jumped at the chance to bring Gyabi into the equation. He had been tracking the former Bermondsey lad for 18 months. Even back then, he was taken with his strong physique, his technique with both feet and versatility in midfield. Now, at 18 and 6ft 2', Gyabi is physically ready for the next chapter in his fledgling career.


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If we can get Camara for 25 and 12-15 for adams then should get both, sell one of your best players and get a couple in to replace him would make sense we need competition for places after all. Can then use the raph money if he ever goes for a AMF and a striker.
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Yorkshire pirlo :lol: :lol:
Only we could make that up, I used to look at fans singing that and shake my head in disbelief, no wonder his head was turned.
I've said elsewhere I won't be surprised if we get Camara, could be a good deal.
Btw, Brian Deane !! The QE2 had a lesser turning circle.
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Just thinking out load.

Could we sign Camara and Adams?
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Briane Deane. Lovely guy. I spent around 45 minutes interviewing him on Saturday!
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Ellandback1 wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:16 pm Just thinking out load.

Could we sign Camara and Adams?
Which sits on the bench?
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Ellandback1 wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:16 pm Just thinking out load.

Could we sign Camara and Adams?
Which sits on the bench?
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faaip wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:04 pm Which sits on the bench?
It would probably involve getting rid of the old guard, but it would mean we could rotate.
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Marsch prefers a bigger squad and he likes to rotate.

He has said so himself.

I still wouldn't be that shocked to see Klich leave given it was rumoured he asked to leave a year ago and he himself has said he doesn't suit the new role Marsch uses him in.
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Sad to see Kalvin go. And disappointed with the fee. Thought we'd get about 60m for him. But, all in all, a lad from our youth system who cost us nothing. A player many wrote off 4 years ago and would have let leave on the cheap. Can only be pleased with the money we got from this ale.
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Ellandback1 wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:12 pm It would probably involve getting rid of the old guard, but it would mean we could rotate.
Not a fan of rotation, players need runs and continuity. Rotation to me means playing well? We're gonna drop you for 10 games to give your understudy a run
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Still disappointed with the sale value, but good luck to KP, deserves his shot at the big time.

I'd take Camara and Adams both; as others have said, competition for places is a good thing.

Will be interesting to see where young Darko goes. I'd imagine he starts in the U23s but, if he's as good as the reports seem to suggest, then perhaps he will be knocking on the door of the senior squad sooner rather than later.
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mentalcase wrote:Yorkshire pirlo Image Image
Only we could make that up, I used to look at fans singing that and shake my head in disbelief, no wonder his head was turned.
I've said elsewhere I won't be surprised if we get Camara, could be a good deal.
Btw, Brian Deane !! The QE2 had a lesser turning circle.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:26 pm Sad to see Kalvin go. And disappointed with the fee. Thought we'd get about 60m for him. But, all in all, a lad from our youth system who cost us nothing. A player many wrote off 4 years ago and would have let leave on the cheap. Can only be pleased with the money we got from this ale.
Wasn't worth 60 tbf, 50 was probably the absolute ceiling, 45 is decent work by the FO, one would hope for a sell on though..
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faaip wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:04 pm Which sits on the bench?
Not only will we have DM's on the pitch, we'll have one on the bench at this rate :lol:
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Should we sign two or three more midfielders, it would seem Klich & Forshaw's Leeds career is over
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faaip wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:27 pm Not a fan of rotation, players need runs and continuity. Rotation to me means playing well? We're gonna drop you for 10 games to give your understudy a run
Citeh rotate mate & they are the best team in the country.
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Cjay wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:15 pm Marsch prefers a bigger squad and he likes to rotate.

He has said so himself.

I still wouldn't be that shocked to see Klich leave given it was rumoured he asked to leave a year ago and he himself has said he doesn't suit the new role Marsch uses him in.
Good, you can't operate in the PL with a small squad.
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1964white wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:35 pm Citeh rotate mate & they are the best team in the country.
City have the players to rotate.... No one else does. They're the best team in the country because the money they can spend on players, not because they rotate
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Rotation is a perfectly normal thing.

You don't rotate half the team every week but 1 or 2 changes is perfectly normal.

MB seems to have convinced people rotation isn't normal.

It is.

It keeps the squad fresh It keeps everyone on there toes fighting for positions.

It's something we should have done more of tbh
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