Pardon, why would we have 15 players on the pitch !!
Only JG has been underused as a sub, the other 3 have regularly laked together, but, have regularly failed to score what you suggest they are capable of.
Pardon, why would we have 15 players on the pitch !!
Because they play out of position, Rodrigo has barely played the 9 for us, Bielsa used him as a attacking mid, as had JM for the most partBamford has been injured but scored in the teens when he wasn't and Joffy doesn't get starts really.. I'm talking 38 games playing up front where they would be in the beset position to score in the double digits....mentalcase wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:03 pm Pardon, why would we have 15 players on the pitch !!
Only JG has been underused as a sub, the other 3 have regularly laked together, but, have regularly failed to score what you suggest they are capable of.
You can talk.faaip wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:39 pm Because they play out of position, Rodrigo has barely played the 9 for us, Bielsa used him as a attacking mid, as had JM for the most partBamford has been injured but scored in the teens when he wasn't and Joffy doesn't get starts really.. I'm talking 38 games playing up front where they would be in the beset position to score in the double digits....
15 would be
1 GK
4 DEF
2 DMF
3 Mid
2 wing and
3 forwards
if we were to start everyone at once
Not sure how difficult that is to understand are are you being deliberately obtuse ?
Go on then find me the 38 games in a season Gelhardt has played, not sub minutes proper minutes to start with, I'm not the font of all knowledge just a rational judge not affected by bias or emptionmentalcase wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:22 pm You can talk.
All 3 have laked together, all 3 have failed to score what you suggest, if you think can score that many, on what assumption ??
You continually like to potray that youare the font of all knowledge, your'e not, far from it, I suggest instead of listening on t'wireless you actually watch the games live, then post something relevant to what youv'e watched, not listened to Dorigo / Whelan / Cross etc.
Then again, your'e the one who championed roberts till he was shown the door for being inept, or in your words " aregular starter and welsh international"
Now, is that too difficult to understand ??
Go on then find me the 38 games in a season Gelhardt has played, not sub minutes proper minutes to start with, I'm not the font of all knowledge just a rational judge not affected by bias or emotionmentalcase wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:22 pm You can talk.
All 3 have laked together, all 3 have failed to score what you suggest, if you think can score that many, on what assumption ??
You continually like to potray that youare the font of all knowledge, your'e not, far from it, I suggest instead of listening on t'wireless you actually watch the games live, then post something relevant to what youv'e watched, not listened to Dorigo / Whelan / Cross etc.
Then again, your'e the one who championed roberts till he was shown the door for being inept, or in your words " aregular starter and welsh international"
Now, is that too difficult to understand ??
Totally agree with the first and final part.
Never said Joe had laked 38 games , I actually go so know how many he does, so roberts made a nice opportunity v sunderland and that makes him the number1 ,could'nt make it up.faaip wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:29 pm Go on then find me the 38 games in a season Gelhardt has played, not sub minutes proper minutes to start with, I'm not the font of all knowledge just a rational judge not affected by bias or emotion
Sigh.. Again for the back seats, I never said Roberts should start just that he was a decent option of the bench and given the injury crisis he was, there's a player there and I see he worked himself a nice opportunity v Sunderland I think it was.. I watch without blinkers
First of all, Marsch is someone decent.
If the team is better because we have finally strengthened the squad, that is not a measure either of Marsch's ability as a coach, nor of his standing in the game.John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:36 pm First of all, Marsch is someone decent.
Second of all, this team we have now is significantly better than the one Bielsa left Marsch. So how is Marsch a step down?
I would expect any club, boardroom, or coach to say openly that they trust the players they have. Any coach except Frank Lampard. But that's no indication on what's going on behind the scenes. Scouting and bids are going on constantly. But we're always going to support our current players and say we trust the team we have.
He doesn't - but his conceit is such that he likes to pour forth his football expertise and wisdom on here...mentalcase wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:02 pm faaip wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:39 pm
Because they play out of position
Odd that, you also championed bielsa and said he wasn't playing anyone out of position, no such things as 'square pegs in round holes'
You forget what you post because you want people to think like you know what your'e on about, I don't think you know what your'e on about.
Ironic much.CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:28 pm He doesn't - but his conceit is such that he likes to pour forth his football expertise and wisdom on here...
14 games in and certain relegation avoided and the club currently 6th in the PL.SaraM wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:50 pm If the team is better because we have finally strengthened the squad, that is not a measure either of Marsch's ability as a coach, nor of his standing in the game.
We're still waiting for his equivalent to Stoke 2018, where we see a convincing performance for 90 minutes with a clear indication of how his system will work, and how he will get the best out of the players.
He is unproven at this level, and unproven as a coach who can develop players and get the best out of them. How can that not be a step down? 14 games in and much of the fanbase are unconvinced... when is it all going to come together?
I don't think that bit is fair tbh.SaraM wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:50 pm If the team is better because we have finally strengthened the squad, that is not a measure either of Marsch's ability as a coach, nor of his standing in the game.
We're still waiting for his equivalent to Stoke 2018, where we see a convincing performance for 90 minutes with a clear indication of how his system will work, and how he will get the best out of the players.
He is unproven at this level, and unproven as a coach who can develop players and get the best out of them. How can that not be a step down? 14 games in and much of the fanbase are unconvinced... when is it all going to come together?
I wouldn't rush to conclusions after 2 games. After all, posters banging on about substitutions and strategy last weekend after just 1 game went very silent in recent days.CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:11 pm 14 games in and certain relegation avoided and the club currently 6th in the PL.
Which planet are you living on, cos it aint this one..
Certain relegation avoided? If you are talking about last season, then nothing was certain. Survival was out of our hands on the last day; we were very fortunate not to go down. If that's the measure we're looking at for success, then I think we need to raise the bar somewhat. 6th after two games means nothing, especially given the opposition we faced.CHAPELALLMAN wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:11 pm 14 games in and certain relegation avoided and the club currently 6th in the PL.
Which planet are you living on, cos it aint this one..