Jesse Marsch post Forest

[Cjay]

Marsch's here - out of ideas second half?
Really good start to the match. Created some chances. Good first half. Limit them almost entirely. Go in 1-0 down. Our desire to get back into the game lost our discipline and we did nto have the effect we wanted second half.

I take full responsibility. I have to find a way to turn good performances into winning. That's our last step.


Aurier
They could not handle us. Defended deep and we could not break them down. Stalled for major portions of the game


Resolve?
My responsibility and I accept their anger. I have to turn good things into results. Stressful situation.


Big week?
Difficult to have the right words for the team right now because the emotion is strong. Last message is it's a huge week. Biggest rival. Tough place on Wednesday.


What should you have done second half?
More rotations to get behind their backline instead of catching the ball in front.


How to keep the players on point?
Difficult. The energy and the work is good. Just how it leads to more results and I have to work it out.

Has to happen on Wednesday (turning good performances into results).


Where is the push coming from to stay up?
I can see why you frame it that way but if you are not with us every day you cannot see how we feel. Everyone is aligned, but results are creating stress. Too often this is how it's been since we've been here. Interrupts process. Before Liverpool we knew we needed result and that's where we are again.

[faaip]

More rotations to get behind their backline instead of catching the ball in front.

What! The actual f**k?

[Cjay]

[Scoobychief]

Too difficult this job is far too big for him.

[faaip]

I thought his team selection was way too safe and uninspired tbh .... subs were poor too

[SaraM]

What! The actual f**k?

He's playing a different game.

[BGwhite]

He's obviously talking American football shite surely!! No wonder we don't have a fkn clue !!!!

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[1964white]

Just do one Jesse, you are out of your depth.

[Mick Jones shoulder]

He spouts bollocks, I think the difference is last season Bielsa had just ran his course, it happens. This term holyshit we've been fooking clueless from the outset. I'd argue that we have another continuing to do the same thing week in week out and expecting a different outcome. Thing is nobody actually knows what he's doing ,himself included.

[faaip]

I do think the Bielsa era was coming to a close but I'm sure he would have kept us up... Unfortunately it sounds like JM was always next man up... so we'd still be in this position...

Hopefully we get someone somewhere between Bielsa and Marsch which would see us safe but better if he's closer to Bielsa good than Marsch bad

[whiteswan]

He's obviously talking American football shite surely!! No wonder we don't have a fkn clue !!!!

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........if it wasn't so true and ridiculous

[Cjay]

I do think the Bielsa era was coming to a close but I'm sure he would have kept us up... Unfortunately it sounds like JM was always next man up... so we'd still be in this position...

Hopefully we get someone somewhere between Bielsa and Marsch which would see us safe but better if he's closer to Bielsa good than Marsch bad

I will never ever ever understand what Orta saw in Marsch in his years of following him.

Did he ever watch his teams play? Because you don't have to be a football expert to see they aren't similar.

It will confuse me forever.

It looked a stupid appointment from day 1.

This felt inevitable imo

[faaip]

I will never ever ever understand what Orta saw in Marsch in his years of following him.

Did he ever watch his teams play? Because you don't have to be a football expert to see they aren't similar.

It will confuse me forever.

It looked a stupid appointment from day 1.

This felt inevitable imo

But it might have worked ... not as bad an appointment as Christensen was. I think a contract longer than RoS wasn't called for though.

[Jaydog]

I won’t read it. This thread is dead to me.

[ActionJackson]

He's obviously talking American football shite surely!! No wonder we don't have a fkn clue !!!!

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TBF, it’s basketball shite.

[weasel]

But it might have worked ... not as bad an appointment as Christensen was. I think a contract longer than RoS wasn't called for though.

I think the big difference though was the level of coach we could hope to attract. When we appointed TC we were a mid level championship club and likely the salary was fairly low. When we appointed Marsch we were a Premier League club and able to attract a fairly high calibre of manager and offer a considerbly high salary.

Both had similar cvs. Success in fairly weak european leagues. JM as maanger of the best team winning trophies and TC getting his Cyriotic team to be unlikely challengers. In that sense the appoint of TC made far more sense than the appointment of JM. TC was being given a similar underachieving team and trying to get them to challenge (albeit for promotion) whereas the appointment of JM made little sense as he had no experience of managing a struggling side at the wrong end of the table (albeit if Leipzig hadn't sacked him when they did he may well have got that experience).

TC had 2 standout performances, wins against Sunderland and Forest which got me excited, showing a style of play which probably gave Bielsa the belief that he could make us play the way he did. JM had 1 standout performance, the 3-0 win v Chelsea. None of his other wins were convincing in any way (even the 3-0 win v Watford saw us being battered for a long period when 1-0 up).

For me TC was far more of a success than JM, who's only achievement was in somehow masterminding Newcastle's win over Burnley.

[BGwhite]

TBF, it’s basketball shite.

f**k me that's even worse! Get the f**k outa ere marsch you motherfuckin' twat and take ur useless fkn coaches with y'all !

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[mentalcase]

I do think the Bielsa era was coming to a close but I'm sure he would have kept us up... Unfortunately it sounds like JM was always next man up... so we'd still be in this position...

Hopefully we get someone somewhere between Bielsa and Marsch which would see us safe but better if he's closer to Bielsa good than Marsch bad

A lot of common sense spoken here

[faaip]

I think the big difference though was the level of coach we could hope to attract. When we appointed TC we were a mid level championship club and likely the salary was fairly low. When we appointed Marsch we were a Premier League club and able to attract a fairly high calibre of manager and offer a considerbly high salary.

Both had similar cvs. Success in fairly weak european leagues. JM as maanger of the best team winning trophies and TC getting his Cyriotic team to be unlikely challengers. In that sense the appoint of TC made far more sense than the appointment of JM. TC was being given a similar underachieving team and trying to get them to challenge (albeit for promotion) whereas the appointment of JM made little sense as he had no experience of managing a struggling side at the wrong end of the table (albeit if Leipzig hadn't sacked him when they did he may well have got that experience).

TC had 2 standout performances, wins against Sunderland and Forest which got me excited, showing a style of play which probably gave Bielsa the belief that he could make us play the way he did. JM had 1 standout performance, the 3-0 win v Chelsea. None of his other wins were convincing in any way (even the 3-0 win v Watford saw us being battered for a long period when 1-0 up).

For me TC was far more of a success than JM, who's only achievement was in somehow masterminding Newcastle's win over Burnley.

The Cypriot league was a 2 team league. It is to the Austrian league what the Austrian league is to the Spanish league... Yes as a prem club we should have done better, in fact Bielsa should have gotten RoS

I do think Marsch will go on to have success somewhere, probably the States. Christensen probably won't. He wrecked this club, destroying form, fitness and attitude before he went... My worst manager since god knows when tbh....

[Cjay]

But it might have worked ... not as bad an appointment as Christensen was. I think a contract longer than RoS wasn't called for though.

But it was another mid season appointment of a manager whose tactics are totally different to the predecessor.

TC to Hecky

Marsch to Bielsa

Neither made any sense