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Good Morning. It's Tuesday 26th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road


Gnonto going nowhere in January

Football journalist Ben Jacobs has stated that Wilfred Gnonto will not be going anywhere in January, and the bad blood between him and Leeds Utd has blown over. The Italian International was strongly linked with a move to Goodison Park in the Summer, and even agreed personal terms with them, but 49ers Enterprises refused to budge. He handed in a transfer request, and even refused to play as the situated threatened to get out of hand.

A month or so on, and it seems all has been forgiven, and with 353 minutes of game time already under his belt, it's safe to assume that normal service has been resumed. Whether he stays next Summer will depend on which division Leeds are playing in next season, but for now at least, all is quiet on the West Yorkshire front.

What we’ll have to do is wait and see whether, at the end of the season, there’s a change in Leeds’ position. And that will obviously be circumstantial, so it’s far too early to say because next summer, if Leeds are back in the Premier League, then Wilfred Gnonto may just want to stay.

The other thing in all of this is obviously whether, at any point going forwards, improved terms that are offered to Gnonto. Sometimes when a player stays at a club, but was about to leave, or wanted to leave anyway, you sort of almost get a peacemaker contract offered. We saw it with Moises Caicedo, even though he eventually left, and that contract really doesn’t mean much.

Because from the players side, they would obviously try and put a clause in there that still allows them to leave in some capacity. For example, if Leeds didn’t get back up to the Premier League. But if everything goes according to plan, that kind of thing can obviously keep the player happy and on better terms as well.

So my sense of the situation is that it’s blown over and that Gnonto respects Leeds’ position and that nothing will be sanctioned mid-season. And then obviously, by the summer, it will all simply depend on whether Leeds go up of stay in the Championship. If they stay in the Championship, I think they’ll let Gnonto leave. But if they go back up into the Premier League, he may not want to leave and like I said before, if Everton is still the primary suitor, we also have to understand where they are to.




Should Rodon be recalled for South Coast test

Daniel Farke has a selection dilemma ahead of Saturday's game at St Mary's. On loan defender Joe Rodon is available to return after serving a one match ban at the weekend, following his sending off at Hull, but with Liam Cooper now fully fit, will the gaffer opt to change a winning formula, and drop his skipper?

It's a nice problem to have. Leeds have kept four clean sheets in a row, and Farke's squad are playing some of their best football we have seen in several years.





Special praise for Kamara

Leeds Manager Daniel Farke reserved special praise for new boy Glen Kamara following their demolition of Watford at the weekend. The young Finn had been frozen out at Ibrox, in an attempt to get him off their books, but with weeks of stalling, it seemed the expected move to LS11 may never happen. Eventually, with just days left until the transfer window slammed shut, the deal was finalised, and the 27 year old signed a four year contract.

Given that he had played very little football over the Summer, Farke can be excused for not throwing him in at the deep end. Before the Watford game, Kamara had only seven minutes of game time under his belt (vs Millwall) but gave a great account of himself with his first start of the season. He had 58 touches, and a pass accuracy rate of 92%.

Excellent. I think it was important because he had little pre-season because there was so many rumours and talks with Rangers that he didn’t get much game time, was tough for him. Obviously when you come into a new environment and you’ve not played competitive games for such a long period, you need a few weeks in order to be then really prepared. I think he had also a bit of game time for Finland, I think this helped him, you could see him growing over the last two weeks or so in training.

The last days I got the feeling okay, he looks like now that he’s really prepared and ready because I just wanted to unleash him and he’s really fully fit and fully ready to go and this is what he showed today. I think he was excellent in his passing, his positioning against the ball. Obviously not a perfect performance even there were some areas we can improve but if you keep in mind that this was the first competitive game for him for clubs since really long while, you have to say you have to give him lots of praise and I’m pleased that he repaid as much as possible.

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If we get offered £40m for Willy, i'd get him sold.

Not a chance he'll stick with Pascal at RCH, he was feckin terrible and if Watford had done any sort of homework, they should've exposed him, the fact they didn't is why nobody really saw how terrible he was, and for DF to play him there tells me everything i need to know about his thoughts on CC, in fact if i was CC now and i thought i was good enough to play football and be in a team no matter where that might be, then i'd put in a transfer request and ask the gaffer to let me go, and damn well prove myself elsewhere, if he's as good as some here say, he'll have no problem at all getting A. Picked up by someone, and B. Getting a big money transfer from them to a Prem club.

Best of luck CC, but i'd move on if i was you.

I think Kamara will be starting again, and same team bar Rodon will be straight back in and Pascal will go back over until LC is fully fit, then he has a decision to make, i think LC is the better option with how DF plays, but age might become a factor now if he's thinking more about building something stable going forward as we try to hit promotion and will go with the younger Pascal.

If we went up this season, a fully fit LC has maybe 1 year left in him at Prem level with DF's style.
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Df on Kamara below

“I think he was excellent in his passing, his positioning against the ball. Obviously not a perfect performance even there were some areas we can improve but if you keep in mind that this was the first competitive game for him for clubs since really long while, you have to say you have to give him lots of praise and I’m pleased that he repaid as much as possible.”

You see^ - Now that's where a player can go un noticed, when you're watching on tele or even live, you tend to follow the ball and action.

Now if you were scouting i player, you'd be following him, and his every move and positioning, in and out of possession - I should know, i've done it ;-)

So next time we play, just pick a player, any player, and track him allover, obviously it's a lot harder not being at the game coz tv just follows the action.

It could be quite good fun here if we created a thread each week and gave each other a player to report back on :roflmao:

We could even give some the same player :lol: like me and Cjay :)

Cjays report : " He touched the ball 5.8 times 32% of the time with his left foot 7.9% near the semi circle, then 58.3% of his right foot went 2.9 times near the penalty spot, over the converted byline 4.2 x 65% going forward towards the rear back axle of the clutch inverter"

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Where would willie find a new dance partner if he left Leeds... that is the question.
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Where would willie find a new dance partner if he left Leeds... that is the question.
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Sean_Nile wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:30 am Where would willie find a new dance partner if he left Leeds... that is the question.
I have a feeling you make these clips Sean.
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Morning all.
Gnonto is a talent but not as good as he thinks he is to put in a transfer request, anyway, hopefully thats put to bed now and he stays, personally, I'd rather keep summerville than gnonto.
With Rutter, Summerville and James, we have plenty attacking options with pace, Rutter has to keep up his star performances, it's a long hard season.

Cooper or Rodon ? Rodon for me, Struijk has been class most of the time, Cooper might get the nod because he's captain but he shows his inexperience as much as his experience far too often, either way, DF knows best.

Kamara is a superb addition to the squad, and lets remember, it is a squad, long tough season with injuries and suspensions, who knows when the next wrong sending off will be !!
As Kenny says, Kamara goes about his job in a very workman like way, he sees everything and is on a mistake in a flash.
Things are starting to look good again, but it won't be easy.
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I didn't see the full game but was Pascal really as bad as Kenny makes out ?

I would be surprised if Farke didn't revert back to Rodon and Pascal again.
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GreennWhite wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:37 am I didn't see the full game but was Pascal really as bad as Kenny makes out ?

I would be surprised if Farke didn't revert back to Rodon and Pascal again.
He didn't have a lot to do and thus wasn't 'really bad', but if you watched closely when passed to and especially receiving the ball, he at times looked like a fish out of water trying constantly to maneuver himself (sometimes very awkwardly) to get it onto his natural left foot to either get it under control or to pass it, if put under instant pressure it would've fcked him, but Watford didn't, so he had the time most of the time to get it under control and turn into his favoured left foot to pass.

Perhaps best way to put it that our Yankee friends would like - If he was harried instantly he would've 'fumbled' a lot, and a decent team would've broke away from him had they had 2 players putting pressure down that side and on him, especially coz the RB of ours was getting forward.

Let's put it this way, i don't want to see him there again, and neither will DF, so what does he think of CC ?
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I can't, but if someone can watch the game again, in the first half i was thinking "ffs if they put someone on him he and us are gonna be fcked"....and watch the balls being passed to him from LC etc when we're trying to knock it about bringing it out from the back.
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I think Rondon will come back in, I think one of our best players this season will get dropped for him... Struijk currently stands at 3 in my POTS and was top class again v Watford
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GreennWhite wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:37 am I didn't see the full game but was Pascal really as bad as Kenny makes out ?

I would be surprised if Farke didn't revert back to Rodon and Pascal again.
I gave Pascal MOM for a reason, we all see a different game, but right in front of me Live from t' west stand, Pascal was immense.
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Rodon has to start, a complete defender who also possesses pace, something we've been crying out for a long time.

Without Rodon's quality & pace, we would be vulnerable at the back.
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GreennWhite wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:37 am I didn't see the full game but was Pascal really as bad as Kenny makes out ?

I would be surprised if Farke didn't revert back to Rodon and Pascal again.
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Kennyb41 wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:53 am

Let's put it this way, i don't want to see him there again, and neither will DF, so what does he think of CC ?
We do know that DF doesn’t like rotation, so even though Struijk is not in his best position he still brings more consistency in the team than replacing both CBS. He also has been very good, I suppose if Watford had pressured him we’d see DF adjust either in tactics or a sub
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Rodon will definitely start next game. The only decision for DF is whether he plays Liam or Pascal.
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The Subhuman wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:58 am I think Rondon will come back in, I think one of our best players this season will get dropped for him... Struijk currently stands at 3 in my POTS and was top class again v Watford
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Chilli D wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:37 am Rodon will definitely start next game. The only decision for DF is whether he plays Liam or Pascal.
Exactly this ^

It is 100% a fit Rodon starts, no ifs no buts.

It would be a surprise in a few ways if he starts LC, which i doubt, but i would ;-)
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LeedsandtheBadSeeds wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:35 am We do know that DF doesn’t like rotation, so even though Struijk is not in his best position he still brings more consistency in the team than replacing both CBS. He also has been very good, I suppose if Watford had pressured him we’d see DF adjust either in tactics or a sub
No he doesn't like rotation (another reason i like him) You get enough with injuries and suspensions to be fcking about.

IF i had a fully fit squad each and everyone of them 100%, i might consider resting 1 or 2 of the grafters, like wingbacks are these days, or an Ampadu if i had an easier game and someone that's near enough as good.

The way DF plays atm is why we're not seeing as many fck ups defensively (says he when they could all come at once in any game)
So the forced 'rotation' atm is not looking nowhere near as bad as it could.
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