The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 28th February) Au revoir Meslier?

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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 28th February, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Au revoir Meslier?

Should Leeds find themselves back in the top flight next season, do they need a new first choice shot stopper? Illan Meslier continually comes under the microscope, receiving widespread criticism, whether it be for his distribution, gathering crosses or the occasional faux pas. At 23, he is still considered an infant in terms of keepers. They don't reach their peak until their late twenties / early thirties, and as such the Frenchman bucked the trend during Leeds' recent stopover to the top flight.

Further down the ranks, the competition for places (between the sticks) is poor. Karl Darlow has proved as useful as a chocolate teapot, whilst Kristoffer Klaesson (the same age as Meslier) looks nothing special! Since relinquishing the No1 jersey from Kiko Casilla after his tete-a-tete with Jonathan Leko, nobody has provided stiff opposition to Meslier, meaning, even if he is playing badly, his place is not at risk. Is Meslier good enough for the top flight?

A transfer away looked certain in the summer, those gambling in Indonesia whould have got short odds on a move for the young Frenchman, but he stayed at Elland Road and remained number one choce under Daniel Farke. It has been rumoured that the Whites will spend £100m this Summer if they go up. Will some of that be reserved for a new keeper?





Elland Road faithful heard from almost 3 miles away

Over the years, Leeds fans have more than played their part in helping the Whites lift their game, whether it be at a packed out Elland Road, or a midweek jaunt to Plymouth in gale force winds and pouring rain. Leeds are one of only three teams in the entire football league to remain undefeated at home all season - and the ER faithful can certainly take some credit for that!

During the recent top of the table clash against Leicester City, Leeds fans could be heard quite vividly 2.4m away on the edge of Middleton Park, where an 18yo maths student was on his way back home to pick up his ID. Clear as day, delirious Leeds fans could clearly be heard, captured by Maciek Goldyn on his mobile phone as he hung outside his bedroom window. It was a testament to their dedication and passion for the club, akin to the excitement one might experience when you try 5 Euro minimum deposit casino for the first time. According to Phil Hay...

Over on the edge of Middleton Park, south of Leeds towards the M62 motorway, Maciek Goldyn, an 18-year-old mathematics student, was rushing home. He was on a night out for a friend’s birthday but had forgotten his ID and nipped back to get it. When he reached his front door, he heard the noise go up at Elland Road at the end of Leeds United’s 3-1 win over Leicester City, the raw elation of a frenetic evening audible from a long distance. Goldyn hung out of his bedroom window and took a video on his mobile, which rapidly went viral on Twitter.




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I saw the video from the lad at Middleton.

One of the best atmospheres I can remember at ER on Friday, I’m still getting emotional now thinking about it 😢😢😢.

A very special night.
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Meslier should remain our keeper for as long as possible. Won't matter who else we bring in because we'd still criticize every goal that goes in against us. Still rate Klaesson and VDH highly..
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I posted the video on the match thread
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For those that missed it in the match thread.

2.4 miles away...MOT. Gives me chills :scar1

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I have been impressed by Klaesson every time I've seen him

Wouldn't be fussed if Meslier went to be honest
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Morning all.
Keep Mes, he's actually getting better, slowly slowly.
Protecting you're GK is an essential part of the game, we will need to improve the outfield to do this.

It's great you can hear that roar and singing, the atmosphere in the ground was just incredible, a lot of raw emotion came pouring out, for many reasons, there was a lot of relief at finally getting what we deserved from that game and closing the gap.

WTF was he doing going out at 22.00hrs, he ought to have been stumbling through a park at that hour after a day out already.
Students for thee :roll:

Could be close toneet, but beating hudds and keeping the run going is most important to me, one game at a time eh.
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Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat, how it sent the crowd into raptures, into delirium, a raucus cacophony of joy, an expression of unbounded delight.

It is funny how there is a great emotional release when the team turns in a triumphant performance.

I wonder if there would ever be a time when the fans would be dumbsruck into silence. That they would witness something so special that they would become silent as though in a cathedral, and a solemn reverential pall would descend on the stadium.

Silence is so often associated with defeat and never with victory. Silence is often associated with disapproval. The crowd when they are singing is counted as at 12 man. Managers tell their players to play well on silence the crowd. The atmosphere in the stadium is dead when there is no noise. Away fans are lauded for how much noise they can make.

Players accept noise as approval or if they are playing badly disapproval. But how unsettling would a silence be, it just does not happen.

Can you imagine Leeds beating Chelsea and it being greeted with total silence. Fans blinded by a Divine celestial Light, a euphoric spiritual experience, standing mesmerized and transfixed in awe and wonder.

Which would you prefer a jubilant celebration or an ecstatic rapturous silence?
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Marco Silvestri is worth around 10M plus now....just sayin'
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Your timing is impeccable as always as Meslier had an outstanding game against Leicester and DF clearly rates him. He has the raw talent and has gained more experience over the years which in due course with proper coaching iron out some of the weaknesses . Having been through the experience of playing behind porous defences throughout our three years in the Premiership it will have done wonders for his confidence to play in a functioning system this season and therefore he will really come into his own in the coming years . Why would you throw all that away given that to get a proven keeper in the Premiership would gobble up a substantial amount of the Transfer Budget with no guarantees of improvement . If you read some of the clickbait sites nearly every keeper who left Leeds turns out to have been a mistake but the reality is that most keepers really only come into their own in their late 20's or early 30's . As a corollary of this a lot of keepers spend years on the bench playing odd cup and underage games so to have the level of experience of Meslier at such a young age is quite exceptional and will accelerate his development.
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ruttermania wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:19 am Your timing is impeccable as always as Meslier had an outstanding game against Leicester and DF clearly rates him. He has the raw talent and has gained more experience over the years which in due course with proper coaching iron out some of the weaknesses . Having been through the experience of playing behind porous defences throughout our three years in the Premiership it will have done wonders for his confidence to play in a functioning system this season and therefore he will really come into his own in the coming years . Why would you throw all that away given that to get a proven keeper in the Premiership would gobble up a substantial amount of the Transfer Budget with no guarantees of improvement . If you read some of the clickbait sites nearly every keeper who left Leeds turns out to have been a mistake but the reality is that most keepers really only come into their own in their late 20's or early 30's . As a corollary of this a lot of keepers spend years on the bench playing odd cup and underage games so to have the level of experience of Meslier at such a young age is quite exceptional and will accelerate his development.
I agree, we have invested a lot in young Illan's development, let's make the most of it. He was the player most responsible for us taking the six points off The Foxes. Plus, as with most of the squad, is improving under Herr Farke's guidance.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:16 am Meslier should remain our keeper for as long as possible. Won't matter who else we bring in because we'd still criticize every goal that goes in against us. Still rate Klaesson and VDH highly..
I have been impressed with Klaesson everytime he's played and wouldn't be any bit nervous to see him play anytime in the future, It must have been demoralising for Mes the last couple of seasons in the Prem with what was infront of him and I don't see a problem with his distribution either, play the ball short then no problem but every keeper takes a risk when trying to play a 30/40 yard pass out wide
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One thing I will say about Meslier is that his kicking is much improved. I reckon they worked on his leg strength over the summer because he seems to get much more distance on his kicks now.
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Mes is on a good run of form and playing well by and large.
Confidence is everything for a keeper.

Every keeper makes mistakes and last season he lost form while playing behind a more than brittle and kamikaze defence and a revolving door of managers.

His distribution has improved but there is scope for more. I am sure he prefers playing behind Rodon more than Llorente.


His best years are ahead of him and he will continue to develop. We have more urgent needs on other parts of the pitch if we are in The Premiership next season. Some of the current outfield crop will struggle to make the step-up.
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Strange isn't it... how Mes plays better when we have a competent defence?
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hector wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:24 pm Strange isn't it... how Mes plays better when we have a competent defence?
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Playing the way DF is, we will not find a better keeper than Mes unless we pay big money, and it's not worth it atm.

The reason we might lose him is someone might buy him. There's a lot of room for improvement with him, and i think he is improving all the time. I'm pretty sure they must be working on his catching, but for now i think he's been told to punch.

He pulls off some good saves, he's long but he can spread himself well when coming out, his feet seem ok on the deck playing it out.

I'd stick with him for now, we might able make money on 1 of the clowns and that'll make 2 won't it ? I forgets how many failures, perhaps someone should draw up a list of em, money burned and wasted should be a long one, and one where we actually made a profit on them, now that will be a short one, i think there's only 1 up to now Raphinha.
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Meslier is a keeper
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hector wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:24 pm Strange isn't it... how Mes plays better when we have a competent defence?
I wouldn't it's strange, but it's quite obviously noticeable, not being under the cosh constantly will definitely help a keeper me thinks.

He might get peppered toneet.
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Meslier is getting better all the time and he has a short memory, something every good goalkeeper needs.

The fact that he was able to put the battering he received last year behind him is very positive and bodes well for his future.

I don't doubt but that he'll continue to improve and will be a great keeper for us for another decade at least if we stand by him.

As for the noise.....We all know Leeds fans are the best on earth.
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