The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) - Piroe or Bamford?

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Good Morning. It's Monday 20th May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Piroe or Bamford

Patrck Bamford has revealed it's “touch and go” if he will back for the play-off final following patellar tendon injury, admiting he's need to be back in training by Wednesday if he were to have any chance of making the game If he is fit, Leeds Manager Danie Farke has a big decision to make on Sunday on whether Bamford or Joel Piroe should start on Sunday.

Whilst Bamford maybe a better fit to spearhead the team, his finishing can be erratic, and all round contribution lacking. In 1487 minutes of league game time this season, the 30 year old has netted 8 times and contributed 1 assist (one goal every 185 mins). Whilst averaging a goal every two games isn't terrible, he only has a 'Whoscored' rating of 6.94, placing his 19th in the Leeds ratings.

Piroe too averages a goal every two games (every 187 mins). He has netted 14 times and 3 assists in 2623 of game time but has a higher ranking of 6.71 (12th in the Leeds ratings), but his lack of pace in the final third has been a constant cause of concern for Daniel Farke this season. If both were fully fit, who would you choose?





Saints or Sinners

Southampton booked their place in the Championship Play-Off final with a comprehensive 3-1 win over West Brom on Friday night, but the game will be remembered for the ugly scenes that ensued. Upon the final whistle, as many as a thousand home supporters broke through the security cordon and invaded the pitch, with many making a bee-line for the 3000 travelling fans. Police immediately set up a wall of bodies to keep the fractioning parties away from each other, which could lead to

The richest financial prize in World club football is at stake, with the losers leaving with nothing. With so much at risk, tensions are already running high in both camps. All hell could break loose should fans from either side invade the pitch at Wembley, with a very different outcome expected by the footballing authorities should Leeds come out victorious.





Albion fume over dirty tricks

Although completely outclassed in the end, Albion will feel hard done by for the dirty tricks employed by the home side during the second leg at St Mary's. Extra advertising hoardings were employed by Southampton to make it more difficult for Albion's long throw specialists, and prior to the game, the Baggies team bus was held up outside the ground for an extra 20 minutes, giving Carlos Corboran and his team just 75 minutes to prepare. This may sound like minor inconveniences, but every tiny advantage can make a difference.

Southampton deserved their win, and technically didn't break any rules, much like Bielsa over the Spy-gate saga, yet it didn't stop Leeds getting reprimanded and fined £200,000 (which Bielsa insisted on paying himself).


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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) Saints or Sinners

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Piroe, it's not even debatable imo.... I've never bought into the "Bamford leads the line well" argument either. That's not saying he's not a decent player who has roles to play and on his day is a very good finisher.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) Saints or Sinners

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Ellandback1 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 8:29 am
Don't forget to put sugar in the Southampton coach's petrol tank and let down the tyres ... take Hector with you, he's ex military and doesn't live far away
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The Subhuman wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 8:47 am Don't forget to put sugar in the Southampton coach's petrol tank and let down the tyres ... take Hector with you, he's ex military and doesn't live far away
We could use Hector as bait :shock: :shock: :shock:
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If, and it’s a big IF, he’s fit enough I’d start Bambi to run the Soton defence around for as long as he can then bring on Piroe for half an hour to take advantage. It’s taken me years to understand this, but now I don’t expect Bamford to score since it seems running around is his function in this setup. But if he creates the space for others - bingo.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) - Piroe or Bamford?

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Piroe for me.
Bamford has missed way too much game time this season to be considered for the final.
There's no denying Piroe is slow but he has a good touch and links the play well. And he's a better finisher than Bamford.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) - Piroe or Bamford?

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Morning EB et all,

Bamford or Piroe - even if Bambi is fit I'd go with Piroe as he's match fit and did ok against Norwich and have Bambi on the bench.

I watched the Saints Vs Baggies game it was dire, I know Saints won 3-1 but the score masks how poor a game it was, I remember saying how the hell did we loose to these two teams. I didn't watch after the final whistle so didn't see what happened next but suspect if we'd done that, it would have been on every news channel going with the EFL/FA threatening to ban us from the final, points deduction, massive fine but it was little old Southampton with their nice supporters just joshing around so that's ok.

Dirty tricks from the Saints how dare you EB, as if that would ever happen, but as Matt Le Tissier likes to say - Makes you think......
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It depends how Farke intends to play the game really, if we go with the same tactics and mind set as Thursday, I’d stick with piroe but if it’s a more defensive side I’d go with bamford as he is a better target for long balls and does tend to look after the ball better.

Will the Wembley pitch make much difference? Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s the same length as Elland Road with 1 meters more width
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It would be harsh on any of our starting XI vs Norwich to be dropped for the Play-Off Final after all of them put in terrific performances to get us to Wembley.

Fingers crossed those displays from Piroe, Gruev & Kamara wasn't a one-off, all three part of the spine of our team.
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I’d be very surprised if it’s not the same starting eleven on Sunday, that started the Norwich game. It would be madness to do something different following such a comprehensive win.

There won’t be any fans on the pitch at Wembley, well maybe the odd idiot, but nothing like there was at Southampton. We were impeccably behaved in our semi final I thought, and the scenes proved it to be the right thing to do.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) - Piroe or Bamford?

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Bamford and Byram might get another season if we stay down. That worries me, particularly if they are both happy/settled at Leeds. Piroe had one of his best games for Leeds against Norwich and called for the Gnonto cross and finished it. Piroe to start, bench for Bamford AND Byram.
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Has to be Piroe to start. But if things are not going well i would expect Farke to bring on Bamford at some point even though he wont be fully match fit.
Lets hope Paddy doesnt come on till the last couple of minutes, and then just as a time wasting effort, which will mean we are doing well or hanging on for dear life :)
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) - Piroe or Bamford?

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Chants are a legal weapon that can be used to demoralise both the opposition team and quieten their fans.

Ask Ashley Barnes how he felt at the barrage of insults directed at him.

The Southampton fans are embarrassed to have Rishi Sunak as a supporter and Leeds supporters should make a chant about them being supported by a failed politician... or the fact that Russell Martin couldn't even make the bench under Daniel Farke when he played at Norwich.

Norwich player called Russell Martin
was in trouble because of his fartin'
Because of the stench
he never made the bench
and that the reason for him and Farke partin'

If one player needs to be targeted it is Smallbone... just to put him off his stride.

There was a footballer, called Smallbone
Had a head like a cue ball, that's well-known.
But the sound from the Leeds crowd,
was ever so loud,
He had to recieve instructions by megaphone!

An inventive chant is worth a goal
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Morning all
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Afternoon all.

Piroe had a goal v SH, played very well ast week so he has to start.
Bamford can come on later.
Especially if it comes to pens. ;-)

Dirty tricks, if I'd had been a boro player I'd have moved the signs and took the heat later.

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Ellandback1 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 9:03 am We could use Hector as bait :shock: :shock: :shock:
I've been used as worse :shock: :shock:
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) - Piroe or Bamford?

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Piroe.

The hoarding one was interesting.
And delaying the coach.
What next pulling faces and mooning.
Seeing Bamford bent over can’t be erased easily.
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hector wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 12:05 pm I've been used as worse :shock: :shock:
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th May) - Piroe or Bamford?

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Piroe or Bamford

My answer will come as a shock, has to be Piroe.

He's been one of our best players against Southampton last time and Norwich. His confidence must be high now and his performance vs Norwich was as good as anything Paddy has done for years.

He needs backing now as he is the future and I think his performance vs Norwich was crucial in bringing Jimmy and Georgie back into form as well.

Would be nice to have Paddy on the bench though.


Saints or Sinners

Rather pathetic scenes, understand excitement but a slight overreaction for a playoff semi final.


Albion fume over dirty tricks

Clever I'd say?
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"Whilst averaging a goal every two games isn't terrible...."

Actually, it's really good. That works out to 23 goals for a full season. The leading scorer in the Championship this season had 27.

That being said, I think it has to be Piroe on Sunday. I think it has to be the same lineup that started Thursday against Norwich.
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