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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 22nd May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Losses to Saints will have little impact on Sunday

Athletic journalist Nancy Froston doesn't believe Southampton's victories aver Leeds this season, will have any bearing on Sunday's Play-Off Final. Southampton have beaten Leeds home and away, holding a 5-2 aggregate over their West Yorkshire rivals, but according to the former Star correspondent, Farke could use this as fuel to rouse his troops. Froston highlights the fact that the German is a two time Championship winning Manager, and his formation is more fluid in terms of his team’s style of play, but warns of Southampton's counter attack which has been deadly this season.

In reality, those results will count for little when the teams walk out at Wembley on Sunday to decide who will go up to the Premier League with Leicester City and Ipswich Town. Maybe there is some mental benefit for Martin’s side in knowing they went up to Elland Road and turned Leeds over so recently. Or maybe it is fuel Farke can use. The additional fun subplot to all this, beyond the tactical scheming and the atmosphere fans will generate on the day, is that Farke and Martin have history from their time together as manager and player at Norwich City seven years ago.

As a double Championship-winning manager in his four years at Carrow Road, it has not been a surprise that Farke has often referred to his time there in press conferences this season as he tried to navigate the tricky waters of fans’ emotions in the promotion charge. Where Farke was criticised at times for taking too long to make substitutions as Leeds slipped out of the automatic promotion slots, he is more fluid in terms of his team’s style of play than Martin, whose absolute commitment to Southampton’s formation and possession-heavy brand of football has obviously worked well for them but can be unpicked if you get it right.

When Southampton get it right against a high press, committing players forward could leave Leeds exposed and easy to carve open. Southampton have caused Farke’s men problems through the attacking threat of Kyle Walker-Peters at right-back, as Junior Firpo knows only too well from that game at Elland Road, and by playing the likes of Adam Armstrong (three goals in the two games this season against Leeds) in behind. Late runs by Will Smallbone made him particularly hard to pick up, too.




McCoist tips Leeds via penalty shoot-out

If Sunday's final couldn't get anymore tense, talkSPORT host Ally McCoist has predicted that just like last season, the game will be settled by penalties! The former Scotland and Rangers ace has forecast a Leeds victory via spot kicks from 12 yards, but Meslier has a miserable record of saving penalties. In 19 attempts, the 6ft 6' Frenchman has made just one save, which was back in 2021 when Bielsa's Leeds knocked Fulham out of the EFL Cup 6-5 on penalties.

Reserve keeper Karl Darlow isn't much better. His shocking display during the 9-8 penalty loss against Salford City at the end of August put pay to any thoughts of taking the No1 jersey off Meslier, it was just he was playing dodgeball! A cardboard cutout would have done better! According to McCoist...

I think that one is going to go all the way and I'm taking Leeds to win on penalties. "How is that for completely not sitting on the fence, I think that is going to be a great game.




Cooper - Its been difficult

Speaking ahead of the Wembley showdown with Southampton, Leeds stalwart Liam Cooper spoke of his disappointment at the lack of game time this season, and how his role has changed since Daniel Farke took over last Summer. Coops, who turns 33 in August becomes a free agent this Summer, which in all likelihood will bring an end to his ten year tenure at the club. He's spent much of this campaign warming the bench, but that hasn't stopped him from taking his dressing room responsibilities seriously.

For much of the last decade, the former Hull City apprentice has Captained the Whites; a responsibility he has taken seriously. Even now, even though he's no longer a major cog in Daniel Farke's wheel, he still takes his responsibilities seriously, and keeps the dressing room motivated.

It’s been difficult. Obviously at the end of the day, I want to be playing as many minutes and as many games as possible. But you’ve got to get your head around that. Obviously I got injured at a difficult time. It was always difficult to get injured like that. It’s been difficult, but you have to take on a different role. Keep the lads motivated, lead by example, standards in training and off the pitch. I think I’ve done that.

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My over-riding concern - Firpo.

Please, please, please, have a belter Junior.
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Farke seems to be both consistant an pragmatic

He sidelined Martin who was captain of the Norwich team.

And he has adopted similar tactic with Leeds captain Liam Cooper.

The only sentimentality that has crept in was him allowing Cooper to play for 10 minutes at the end of the Norwich semi when we were winning 4-0. A final hurrah before Liam finally bows out.

If anything will win the final at Wembley then it has to be teutonic hard headedness, and an unsentimental approach. A firm stubborness to principles that have served well in the past.

It is not the time for experimentation.
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Sean_Nile wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:01 am Farke seems to be both consistant an pragmatic

He sidelined Martin who was captain of the Norwich team.

And he has adopted similar tactic with Leeds captain Liam Cooper.

The only sentimentality that has crept in was him allowing Cooper to play for 10 minutes at the end of the Norwich semi when we were winning 4-0. A final hurrah before Liam finally bows out.

If anything will win the final at Wembley then it has to be teutonic hard headedness, and an unsentimental approach. A firm stubborness to principles that have served well in the past.

It is not the time for experimentation.
It would be fantastic if we were in the same position score wise on Sunday so Cooper could make another appearance.
It would be fitting if his final appearance for us was in a winning side at Wembley
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Chilli D wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:08 am It would be fantastic if we were in the same position score wise on Sunday so Cooper could make another appearance.
It would be fitting if his final appearance for us was in a winning side at Wembley
100% Agree with that Chilli
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Chilli D wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:08 am It would be fantastic if we were in the same position score wise on Sunday so Cooper could make another appearance.
It would be fitting if his final appearance for us was in a winning side at Wembley
Coops leadership has been exemplary in a difficult season for him personally. Liam is mentally aware & big enough to admit the younger legs & qualities of Rodon, Ampadu & Struijk are ahead of him in the CB department.

Liam can look back to the first game of the season, where he was instrumental in getting us back into the game with a towering header vs Cardiff, a rare headed goal from a corner which we've sadly lacked in 2023/24.
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Firpo against Adam Armstrong worries me aswell. Firpo is capable of losing us the game on his own. Sounds harsh i know but its stuck in my head.

We defo don't want pens. I am going for third time lucky for the team who has been doubled in the regular season winning the final.

A great send off for Coops on Sunday with him and Amps lifting that trophy. Infact i will include Dallas and Ayling in their aswell. Is it possible to lift a Trophy with Four individual hands. Yeah why not.
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1964white wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:34 am Coops leadership has been exemplary in a difficult season for him personally. Liam is mentally aware & big enough to admit the younger legs & qualities of Rodon, Ampadu & Struijk are ahead of him in the CB department.

Liam can look back to the first game of the season, where he was instrumental in getting us back into the game with a towering header vs Cardiff, a rare headed goal from a corner which we've sadly lacked in 2023/24.
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Leeds1000 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:50 pm Firpo against Adam Armstrong worries me aswell. Firpo is capable of losing us the game on his own. Sounds harsh i know but its stuck in my head.

We defo don't want pens. I am going for third time lucky for the team who has been doubled in the regular season winning the final.

A great send off for Coops on Sunday with him and Amps lifting that trophy. Infact i will include Dallas and Ayling in their aswell. Is it possible to lift a Trophy with Four individual hands. Yeah why not.
Def don't fancy us on pens. Not just the goal keeper stats that were highlighted. I don't think we have 5 good penalty takers.
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I have nothing but praise for Coops. I think he's been an excellent captain. He'll be a great manager/coach too.
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