The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 19th June) Roma keen to wrap up €5m Llorente deal

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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 19th June, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Roma keen to wrap up €5m Llorente deal

Reports from Italy suggest Roma will take advantage of a gentleman's agreement they had with Leeds last Summer, and wrap up the permanent signing of Diego Llorente for €5m (£4.2m).

The 30yo centre-back adapted to life in La Liga like a duck to water, and soon made his feelings abundantly clear that he did not want to return to Blighty!  He had a solid campaign last season for the Giallorossi, starting 33 games (and making 7 substitute appearances) from all competitions, picking up a respectable 6.64 'Whoscored' rating, placing him ninth in their squad.





Pre Season trip of Germany on the cards

Leeds are planning a pre-season tour of Germany this Summer as part of their preparations for the forthcoming season, according to YEP journalist Graham Smyth.

The Whites have already scheduled games against Harrogate Town and Valencia this Summer, but the gaffer has decided that an exertion to his homeland would be beneficial to his squad. Farke has both played an managed in Germany; it will be interesting to see what he has planned! According to Smythe
“Yes, we are anticipating a trip to Germany for Farke and his squad as they prepare for the new season, but the friendlies are not confirmed and the details are still to be firmed up before the club makes any announcements.”




Leeds set to lose out financially on Roca deal

Real Betis have agreed a four year contract with wantaway midfielder Marc Roca, amidst rumours that they are close to agreeing a reduced fee with Leeds Utd for his services.

Roca, a £10m rescue signing from the depths of Bayern Munich's squad two years ago, was one one of the first to jump ship last Summer, taking full advantage of a clause in his contract allowing him to go out on loan in the event of relegation.

Just like Llorente, Roca found Mediterranean life to his liking, vowing never to return to West Yorkshire.  Failure to win promotion last season, has allowed the 27yo to extend his stay in Seville for another season by which time he'll only have a year left on his contract. Roca excelled last season in La Liga, but the clause in his contract puts Bettis in the driving seat as far as negotiations go. 


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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 19th June) Roma keen to wrap up €5m Llorente deal

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Footballers' loyalty to their clubs often evokes nostalgia and admiration from fans, reminiscent of an era where players spent their entire careers with a single team. Such loyalty fosters deep connections with the club, the fans, and the local community, creating legendary figures whose legacies endure long after their playing days are over. Players like Francesco Totti at Roma or Steven Gerrard at Liverpool epitomize this rare breed of loyalty.

Their unwavering dedication is seen as a testament to their character, often earning them a revered status that transcends the sport. This bond between player and club can lead to emotional, enduring relationships that define the club's history. Just think of big Jack Charlton and Leeds.

Conversely, the modern football landscape is often dominated by players who prioritize career advancement and financial incentives over long-term loyalty. This pragmatic approach is fueled by the commercialized nature of the sport, where lucrative contracts, endorsements, and the promise of silverware at top clubs lure players to frequently switch teams. Think of Harry Kane, who left Spurs for Munich in search of silverware. The pursuit of advantageous moves can enhance a player's career through exposure to different leagues, higher levels of competition, and increased personal wealth. While this might result in short-term success and significant financial gain, it often comes at the cost of losing the deep, personal connection with a single club and its supporters. Kalvin Phillips roams aimlessly in the wilderness since leaving Leeds.

The contrast between loyalty and the pursuit of career advantages and money reflects broader changes in the sport. Loyalty is increasingly rare and often idealized in a world where financial considerations and career aspirations dominate decision-making. While some fans and pundits bemoan the loss of the "one-club man," others acknowledge the practicality and professionalism in players' choices to secure their futures. Ultimately, the balance between loyalty and ambition varies among individuals, influenced by personal values, career goals, and the ever-evolving dynamics of modern football. Football is now a business for making money or sports-laundering, and the ideals of old fashioned loyalty is a luxury few clubs and players will subscribe to. Roca most likely is enjoying the sunshine of the costa brava and does not miss the wet Yorkshire moors at all.
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So we'll make how much from these fantastic deals ?

£Clownonomics.

Anyway, thank the lord DF is here to oversee the transition from 'nearly fcked' - 'getting on our feet again'

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Morning EB et all,

So we get stiffed by contracts the previous owners agreed to once again, on the upside we get rid of two losers we don't want or need near our squad, there's always an upside if you look closely enough.

Pre-season in Germany, I wonder which cities you can fly from LBA to :duno:
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Piss take that we continue to put ourselves in weak positions with transfers waiting to see gnonto and Summerville leave for 10 million less than they are worth.

We should be trying to get o’hare on board early doors, would be a great free transfer for us
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If the EPA are happy to amortize player purchases and salaries then surely depreciation should also be included.... Players values always go down once they pass a certain age.
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Kennyb41 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:47 am So we'll make how much from these fantastic deals ?

£Clownonomics.

Anyway, thank the lord DF is here to oversee the transition from 'nearly fcked' - 'getting on our feet again'

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I think Jesse sacked was unanimous :)
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I believe we'd make a £4.2m 'profit' under ffp rules for Llorente lol
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The loss on ROCA could be reduced by loaning him again this season with a mandatory option to buy at the price they are willing to pay. We then get three seasons of amoritisation rather than 2. I am sure the club may have tried to negotiate such a deal. Avoiding additional loss on this years accounts will be very important.
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WhiteRose wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:59 am Piss take that we continue to put ourselves in weak positions with transfers waiting to see gnonto and Summerville leave for 10 million less than they are worth.

We should be trying to get o’hare on board early doors, would be a great free transfer for us
Not before the end of this year’s accounts. O’ Hare would receive a signing on bonus, which will form part of the accounts. Although there is nothing to stop us reaching agreement on a contract in principle which starts on the 1st July - a sweetener would be to add suggested back pay to the signing on fee.
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What folk need to realise is that FFP does not only apply to us. I will be very surprised if we sell Gnonto or Summerville in this accounting period, because whilst we reduce our FFP figure the buyer increases theirs - and that may be a sticking point. The transfer window has changed into a rather complex beast, and proven enforceable regulation is at the centre of it.
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Sean_Nile wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:55 am Roca most likely is enjoying the sunshine of the costa brava and does not miss the wet Yorkshire moors at all.
Seville isn't Costa Brava. Seville isn't Costa anything. If he wants the coast from there, he would go to Costa del Sol.
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Notwell wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:41 pm Seville isn't Costa Brava. Seville isn't Costa anything. If he wants the coast from there, he would go to Costa del Sol.
You could get a job as a fact checker at the BBC.

I was using poetic license by contrasting the different weather climate which might be a contributing factor that deciding where to play your football.

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Sean_Nile wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:54 pm You could get a job as a fact checker at the BBC.

I was using poetic license by contrasting the different weather climate which might be a contributing factor that deciding where to play your football.

Anyway welcome to MOT
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Sean_Nile wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:54 pm You could get a job as a fact checker at the BBC.

I was using poetic license by contrasting the different weather climate which might be a contributing factor that deciding where to play your football.

Anyway welcome to MOT
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Orange Box wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:02 pm Your opening post deserves better than that. Well written Rab, I enjoyed reading it, at least.
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Keep Llorente he's been secretly playing in Two leagues. And there was me thinking he was fragile.

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Seville is famous for it's oranges, however, we normally buy lemons.
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Why don’t we charge a extraordinary loan fee or was something written into the agreements?
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DDB220 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:27 pm What folk need to realise is that FFP does not only apply to us. I will be very surprised if we sell Gnonto or Summerville in this accounting period, because whilst we reduce our FFP figure the buyer increases theirs - and that may be a sticking point. The transfer window has changed into a rather complex beast, and proven enforceable regulation is at the centre of it.
I am encouraging my youngest to look for a job in football after he finishes his financial maths degree - the chairman’s abacus is gathering dust next to the fish tank.
Good point about buying teams having to comply with their own FFP in the current window. Don't think many of us had taken the other side into consideration. Maybe that's the reason Brighton have been the only team to pop up with interest in Summerville this week. They were reported to have made massive profits.

And these FFP rules are just ridiculous. Should just be: Positive bank account = good. Negative bank account = bad. Kinda what FFP was created for.
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