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The Subhuman wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:52 pm We scored three so the attackers do seem the logical group to blame...
1 was a penalty. When are we going to get an out and out number 9 who scores for fun. Any team can have lots of shots but the name of the game is to score. And to those of you who say we have a great defence i say look at todays performance - not that great
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pjm2019 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:33 pm 1 was a penalty. When are we going to get an out and out number 9 who scores for fun. Any team can have lots of shots but the name of the game is to score. And to those of you who say we have a great defence i say look at todays performance - not that great
Our defence should be as good as last season. If not better. Today was just one of those days. I have no doubt in Rodon's quality. But he as off his game today.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:36 pm Our defence should be as good as last season. If not better. Today was just one of those days. I have no doubt in Rodon's quality. But he as off his game today.
I was hoping it would be better than last season as we finished 3rd and lost the play off final
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:17 pm Not from me. Ive always thought Farke is an average to good manager. His record is average to good.
Not aimed at you but why do we expect him to be something that he isn't. I’m absolutely certain he tries his best.
I doubt he makes a sub and then thinks “that should make us worse” so i just put it down to a lack of ability.
He’s certainly a talented manager but he has a ceiling same as all of us.
I'm sure you said previously that you live in a tent.
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Broad Ford wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:46 pm Only watched 10 minute highlights after returning home from work, but according to a Leeds channel, Leeds sat back after going 1 up allowing Portsmouth to play and gain some attacking momentum leading to an equaliser. Rutter needed runners that just weren't there. Is this the same as last season with everything down the left through Cry, only this time through Geo? Also 12 corners that amounted to nothing. Again the subs were strange and after a bright start the game became boring until those final few minutes with Aronson becoming both hero then villain. This Leeds fan channel points the finger at DF's system of everything through Geo but with no runners in support.
I said elsewhere that I felt that because we were so on top, hitting the woodwork three times, that once we got the breakthrough I think the players felt it was job done. A lesson learnt that no game is over especially at 1-0.
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weasel wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:17 pm I'm sure you said previously that you live in a tent.
I wanted to set myself as low a ceiling as possible.
Like Farke.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:50 pm Rothwell was supposed to be a change in midfield. I did se him run with the ball a couple of times. But nothing really noteworthy
It's been said till blue in the face but our midfield does what DF wants.

He could have prime Frank Lampard, prime Yaya Toure, prime Steven Gerrard.

It makes no difference if the manager doesn't want them creating, making runs into the box etc.

They follow his instructions.

I hope that wasn't a childish point
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:21 pm I wanted to set myself as low a ceiling as possible.
Like Farke.
I think of you as being like the ceiling on a boat. To me, my dear, you are a deckhead :)
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I don't think we sat back at all. Dominating, could score at any time until they scored. Then we sat back.
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Tactics seemed ok to me to produce 22 shots. Still missing too many chances, but to be fair we put three away. The problem was at the other end of the pitch, was not impressed with Bogle or Rodons defending today, but we know Joe is a class performer and Bogle probably needs a few games to bed in.
I agree taking the wingers off seemed to nullify our attack but Aaronson did get into some good positions at the death.
We still need some more depth to the squad, but if our defence can get back to last seasons level, we should be ok.
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Why the need to make 3 subs at once all the time? Rothwell might have affected the game more with Gnonto and James still on the pitch.

If not, sub on Piroe, or Aaronson, then another if required.

Too much change all at once can’t be moderated if it proves harmful or ineffective. I don’t get the thinking.
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pjm2019 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:39 pm I was hoping it would be better than last season as we finished 3rd and lost the play off final
We conceded 43 goals in 46 matches last season. Good for 2nd best in the Division behind Leicester City who conceded 41. The total number of goals conceded were not the reason we didn't get promoted. I would take that same number conceded for this season right now!!
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weasel wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:20 pm I said elsewhere that I felt that because we were so on top, hitting the woodwork three times, that once we got the breakthrough I think the players felt it was job done. A lesson learnt that no game is over especially at 1-0.
I was so annoyed with aspects of our play throughout the whole of the game.

We are so predictable, I sensed complacency would set-in after our blistering start, then the multiple subs when not required. I mentioned my fears to my pals around me, one of them replied it's the typical Leeds of last season, nothing has changed as we chuck games away with considerable ease!
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Cjay wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:21 pm It's been said till blue in the face but our midfield does what DF wants.

He could have prime Frank Lampard, prime Yaya Toure, prime Steven Gerrard.

It makes no difference if the manager doesn't want them creating, making runs into the box etc.

They follow his instructions.

I hope that wasn't a childish point
I reckon you are right. :tup:
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Carrick Dave wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:23 pm Why the need to make 3 subs at once all the time? Rothwell might have affected the game more with Gnonto and James still on the pitch.

If not, sub on Piroe, or Aaronson, then another if required.

Too much change all at once can’t be moderated if it proves harmful or ineffective. I don’t get the thinking.
Madness Dave, multiple subs generally spoils the flow & rhythm of our game.
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Cjay wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:21 pm It's been said till blue in the face but our midfield does what DF wants.

He could have prime Frank Lampard, prime Yaya Toure, prime Steven Gerrard.

It makes no difference if the manager doesn't want them creating, making runs into the box etc.

They follow his instructions.

I hope that wasn't a childish point
I thought Kamara got less and less forward thinking as the season went on and I absolutely think that's what Farke wanted. 2 holding mids at all times.
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Carrick Dave wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:23 pm Why the need to make 3 subs at once all the time? Rothwell might have affected the game more with Gnonto and James still on the pitch.

If not, sub on Piroe, or Aaronson, then another if required.

Too much change all at once can’t be moderated if it proves harmful or ineffective. I don’t get the thinking.
That for me is the most sensible view offered. Introduce one and see what effect he has on the players already on the pitch.

I do wonder though if subbing James off was a bit precautionary as he had been fouled a few times. Also worth noting that players enter the 'red zone' in terms of getting injured around the 70 minute mark and I would think wingers would be the most susceptible to muscle injuries given that they often have to go from standing starts / light jogging to full pelt. The players these days have those vests that monitor a lot as well as loads of data to try to prevent injuries. So for me it is maybe that the wingers subs were almost pre-planned around that mark and as such the only tactical change was Rothwell for Gruev. Aaronsen and Piroe, especially, are not the same out and out wingers that Gnonto and James are which is why we are probably looking to bring Rowe in. It may be that if we do get Rowe then we will see a lot of matches where he and Aaronsen come on to replace James and Gnonto, Rothwell to replace Gruev and Piroe/Bamford to replace Joseph. Less change there though from Plan A so at least that gives the Dannybashers all the ammunition they need without even trying to be original.
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The Subhuman wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:14 am I thought Kamara got less and less forward thinking as the season went on and I absolutely think that's what Farke wanted. 2 holding mids at all times.
Yet Farke was then happy to sell Kamara - sort of suggests he didn't want what he ended up getting from Kamara.
Seems people here prefer to use a gillette rather than an occam when having a shave.
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weasel wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:20 pm Yet Farke was then happy to sell Kamara - sort of suggests he didn't want what he ended up getting from Kamara.
Seems people here prefer to use a gillette rather than an occam when having a shave.
Like he was happy to sell Gray and Summerville?
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The Subhuman wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:25 pm Like he was happy to sell Gray and Summerville?
I think he'd have rather kept them but financially it made too much sense to the club. Kamara was neither here no there in terms of the bigger financial picture, I'm sure if Farke had wanted him to stay then the club wouldn't have sold him.

Presume you use a Hitchen's?
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