The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thursday 5th September) Farke did not want Tanaka signing

[Ellandback1]

Good Morning. It's Thursday 5th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Farke did not want Tanaka signing

Further rumours of a rift between Daniel Farke and the Leeds United hierarchy are gathering pace after an article in the German press yesterday revealed that Daniel Farke did not want to sign AO Tanaka.

Despite pursuing other options like Gustavo Hamer and Dejan Ljubicic, Leeds eventually settled for Tanaka, splashing out almost £4m on his deadline day signature. After lost Summerville, Rutter, Gray and Kamara, it wouldn't be unreasonable for Farke to expect a 'marquee' signing to turn up at Thorp Arch, but it was not meant to be. According to German publication ' De Rheinische Post', Farke was disappointed with Tanaka's arrival - only time will tell whether the Japanese International ith 27 caps. can prove his gaffer wrong!

Tanaka previously applied his trade with Düsseldorf in the second tier of German football, showcasing his many talents, where he provided 10 goals and eight assists in 95 appearances. His impressive record mirrors his time at Kawasaki Frontale, where he secured 10 goals and nine assists in 94 matches, clinching three J League titles and multiple domestic cups.




Could Rothwell get recalled in January

It has been suggested that Bournemouth are already closely monitoring the situation of midfielder Joe Rothwell, who is currently on loan at Elland Road.

The 29 year old was deemed surplus to requirements on the South Coast, and was sent to West Yorkshire to get first team action. His appearances thus far, both in pre-season and in the league have not disappointed. His link up play, and vision has been positive, and his set-piece play is better than anyone currently on our books.

Despite this, Tanaka's arrival may have pushed the former Manchester Utd rookie further down the pecking order making first team opportunities even harder to come by. Daniel Farke already has Ampadu (, Crew) and Gruev at his disposal. If Leeds fail to utilise his services, the Cherries have the right to recall him in January.

[The Subhuman]

Personally not seeing anything in Rothwell outside of ok mid division starter. Maybe he's alerted Bournemouth and would like a loan to start somewhere, would be very surprised Bournemouth have been looking close this early...

[The Subhuman]

Thought I read Farke liked Tanaka somewhere before we signed him.

[Sean_Nile]

Farke didn't like Tanaka.
Tanaka will replace Rothwell.

Now that seems to be a logical contradiction.

Almost as bad as Paul Robinson's analysis that Farke should be sacked after 4 games.

[Chilli D]

I can't for one moment think Bournemouth are considering a January recall for Rothwell after FOUR games.
There are loads of games between now and then and he should get his chance to prove his worth as a starter. It's up to him to take it.
If not, and he's still warming the bench in January, he probably will go back and be loaned elsewhere.

[The Subhuman]

Rothwell should be at Preston or Sheffield Wednesday imo ....

[1964white]

Why would it be public knowledge that Farke didn't want or is not keen on Tanaka.

How would Ao feel if that was true?

All Jackanory stories imo!

[1964white]

Farke didn't like Tanaka.
Tanaka will replace Rothwell.

Now that seems to be a logical contradiction.

Almost as bad as Paul Robinson's analysis that Farke should be sacked after 4 games.

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The MOT Leeds news site should be shut down, it constantly drums up nonsense!

[weasel]

Why would it be public knowledge that Farke didn't want or is not keen on Tanaka.

How would Ao feel if that was true?

All Jackanory stories imo!

Indeed. The Tanaka is likely a story embellished from the non-story suggesting Farke is disappointed not to have got a 'classic' no.10. You then twist that to suggest that he is disappointed that we signed Tanaka as if we signed Tanaka instead of the no.10. Farke may have preferred us to maybe sign Hamer instead of, or as well as, Tanaka but that doesn't mean he is disappointed that we have signed Tanaka. I don't think we are any longer going down the path of signing young players with potential that the manager doesn't see as being first team ready. i think that would only happen when we get back to the prem. Tanaka is no spring chicken either so the only way he increases in value is by playing so there would be no logical reason to bring him to the club if Farke didn't want him or see him as being useful - won't do anything for shirt sales in Japan if we have a player that is just an unused sub.

Rothwell was a bit part player on loan for Southampton, from Bournemouth, and it may be the case with us. The trouble Bournemouth have is that they obviously see him as not being good enough for them but because they sign him as a free agent he is likely on very good wages - this then limits the amount of championship clubs that will be able to afford his wages. I would have thought we are paying all his wages, and possibly a loan fee too, so it would boil down to whether they would prefer him to be playing every week and they are only getting a percentage of his wage paid or whether they simply want his wage being paid. Given that Rothwell is not a youngster that they want to gain experience from playing matches then I would suggest that their priority is simply to get his wages paid. Likely the only reason they would look to recall him is if another club wanted to buy him.

[Cjay]

Whether Farke wanted Tanaka or not we will never know (Ell is getting his info from Germany) it was in quite a reliable German publication.

What we do know for certain is he was well down the list.

We had Hamer, we had Billing, we had that Croatian guy whose name I can't remember, so at best Ao was 4th choice.

To balance it out The Athletic reporting that he turned down Como 1907 to be here. Como have just been promoted to Serie A, have extremely wealthy owners and have signed Raphael Varane and Sergi Roberto this summer.

Very ambitious owners, very beautiful place to live and be managed by Cesc Fabregas.

So anyone turning down all that and effectively Daniel Farke over Fabregas deserves time (and possibly some form of psychological evaluation)

Turned down Celtic as well which isn't as impressive

[Finnatic]

Tanaka could well be our best midfielder within a month or two.
He was very slick in his brief cameo towards the end of the game.
Wasn’t on long enough to see how good his tackling is as we kept possession for most of the last ten minutes.

[Finnatic]

The MOT Leeds news site should be shut down, it constantly drums up nonsense!

I thought that was a sub section of this site …or you’re being sarcastic

[ruttermania]

Last summer we were supposed to be in for Tanaka as and eventually bought Gruev instead so he clearly has been part of discussions for some time . We are led to believe that Farke has final refusal and if he has been under their scrutiny for some time it is something of a stretch to state that Farke didn't want him. This is reinforced by the fact that Farke gave him a run out in a game one day after he was signed where if there was an an issue as portrayed he could easily have justified a refusal to play him. Nothing in Farke's comments on the signing indicates that he objected to the signing . A far more logical ,and therefore totally unsatisfactory explanation, for those determined to construct mountains out of molehills, is that this story derives from an interpretation of the stories based on Farkes Press Conference . I may very well have preferred to drive a ferrari but my toyota gets me from A to B

[Sean_Nile]

So anyone turning down all that and effectively Daniel Farke over Fabregas deserves time (and possibly some form of psychological evaluation)

He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good.
A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions.

Confucius

P.S. Girl who sit on Judge's lap get honorable discharge.

[Ellandback1]

Thought I read Farke liked Tanaka somewhere before we signed him.

That was last season

[Cjay]

He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good.
A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions.

Confucius

P.S. Girl who sit on Judge's lap get honorable discharge.

[1964white]

I thought that was a sub section of this site …or you’re being sarcastic

Not that I'm aware of, Finn.

They should add clickbait to their site name.

[Sean_Nile]

I see you are confusing inscrutable oriental wisdom with the platitudes of David Brent, and thereby being dismissive of the fact that we should let AO's football do the talking... but as is your want you sneeringly imply that he needs his head seeing to for coming to Leeds instead of basking by lake Como in the Italian sunshine... forgetful of the fact that his cameo performace was praised by the majority of people on here, you being the exception by your condescending demeanour.

[Cjay]

I see you are confusing inscrutable oriental wisdom with the platitudes of David Brent, and thereby being dismissive of the fact that we should let AO's football do the talking... but as is your want you sneeringly imply that he needs his head seeing to for coming to Leeds instead of basking by lake Como in the Italian sunshine... forgetful of the fact that his cameo performace was praised by the majority of people on here, you being the exception by your condescending demeanour.

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[andrewjohnsmith]

Thought I read Farke liked Tanaka somewhere before we signed him.

I'm thinking it's a bad headline. Pretty sure it just means that Farke wanted a 10. He always said he wanted an extra midfielder. But after Rutter was sold it seemed like Farke was unhappy and wanted a natural 10 to replace him.

I don't see any problem with Tanaka. Looks like he'll be a great addition to our squad. We did need something different in midfield and that's what we got in Rothwell. I don't think Farke will be breaking up Ampadu and Gruev any time soon. It will probably take an injury. But I do like the "different" in Rothwell. He's better at set pieces and loves to run with the ball. That will be great against stuborn defences. In Tanaka though, I think we got different AND better. So it remains to be seen now where Rothwell will get his chance. Probably as a defensive sub at number 10. I really don't see him getting enough playing time and wouldn't be surprised if Bournemouth recall him.