The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 18th September) Is time running out for Farke

[Ellandback1]

Good Morning. It's Wednesday 18th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Is time running out for Farke

Eight points from a possible fifteen is not the start that any of us would have wanted, but is it any surprise after another Summer of upheaval. Fans are starting to question whether Daniel Farke has the right credentials to get Leeds promoted, or whether Crysencio Summerville's one man show flattered his capabilities to manage a team of Leeds stature!

The same could be said of Buendía and Cantwell's contributions at Norwich, though in their case, they did at-least reach the promised land (twice). Leeds are a different animal altogether; the pressure is more and expectations are higher, and that's before the gaffer has to factor in some of the imbecilic decisions from the Elland Road board!

A bad result at Cardiff could very much spell the end of Farke's tenure, but if he goes, who picks up the poisoned chalice?





Worrall's challenge on Solomon not a penalty - Gallagher

Former Premier League Referee Dermot Gallagher has waded in on Joe Worrall's last ditch challenge on Manor Solomon during Burnley's recent visit to Elland Road. The former Nottingham Forest defender, a £4m Summer signing for the Clarets tackled Solomon from behind, when clear through on goal.

Whilst Gallaher admits 'it looks a penalty all day long', replays clearly show Worrall gets some of the ball, and praised James Bell (the man in black) for his judgement call. Speaking on Sky Sports News’ ref watch...

Brilliant refereeing, because the defender actually gets the ball. It looks a penalty all day long but he gets the ball. As he comes round here, he gets the ball, it’s a really, really good decision.

[thatchapcarnell]

Is time running out for Farke

No.

Ridiculous to start discussing this now.

[Tom the Cat]

No.

Ridiculous to start discussing this now.

Surely they are not daft enough to sack the fellow this early in the season with no other better options available !!

[Barlow Boy]

No.

[Tom the Cat]

I have heard Gallagher comment on referees decisions many times and am yet to hear him criticise a ref for getting it wrong. My thoughts are that had that tackle been made at Old Trafford it would have been a stonewall penalty.

[ruttermania]

I know that this is just clickbait and that I am a bigger fool for rising to the bait but I have to say that in all the ridiculous notions that have been floated in the 52 odd years I have supported Leeds this is close to the stupidest . In what universe does a very unlucky defeat to a very strong rival justify sacking a manager who has one of the best win ratios of any Leeds managers and who has an established track record of succeeding in this Division. Given the careers that they have had since or will have in the future Cantwell, Buendia and Summerville owe more to Farke for giving them the opportunity, the coaching and the team around them to have their best ever seasons . In a couple of months time if by any chance you look back on these stories you might reflect on the sheer inanity of this crap.

[danhirons]

wasn't a pen, he got some of the ball, tackle was a bit reckless though

a poor result at the weekend and the fans will be on his back

[Jaydog]

wasn't a pen, he got some of the ball, tackle was a bit reckless though

a poor result at the weekend and the fans will be on his back

Tackle was through the legs. If its not given by the ref then VAR would give it 100% of the time.
You just cannot challenge like that anymore

[The Subhuman]

Tackle was through the legs. If its not given by the ref then VAR would give it 100% of the time.
You just cannot challenge like that anymore

Agreed. Stonewall pen even if his big toe did brush the ball. Watched it again and the defender catches Solomons foot first ...

[marie67]

Is time running out for Farke?

No, we've only lost one game.

[Jaydog]

Agreed. Stonewall pen even if his big toe did brush the ball. Watched it again and the defender catches Solomons foot first ...

Its also because player contact is inevitable so even if said defender wins ball he brings player down who therefore cannot get to the loose ball. Potentially.
Solomon was beside himself because he knows he’d get it in the PL.

[DDB220]

Little argument on the fact it was a penalty, the angle used to support the ref’s decision is not an angle that the ref saw the tackle.

Farke is not walking a tight rope by any means currently. That is not to say it won’t happen as the game is result based. But I have no doubt he will get 3 points far more often than not.

[John in Louisiana]

Gallagher just standing up for his fellow referee.

It was a penalty all day long.

[Cjay]

Not been a great start in a supposed weaker division where 7 of our 8 of our points have come vs teams currently 20th and below.

Needs to improve and improve quickly.

And it was a pen.

[Ellandback1]

With our current team, and averaging our performances over our 5 games, we would not have made the play-offs last season.

The only reason in my eyes why Farke deserves more time is because he has a solid history of doing well in the Championship, though:-

i) Why we didn't buy a specialist set piece/corner taker is beyond me
ii) Farke's use of substitutes is awful
iii) I've seen nothing from his tactics that have turned Leeds games around

[danhirons]

Tackle was through the legs. If its not given by the ref then VAR would give it 100% of the time.
You just cannot challenge like that anymore

exactly, he tackled through his legs i.e., he didn't take his legs first, he went between his legs and won the ball. there's no specific rule against tackling through somebody's legs

e.g., someone is shielded the ball from going out, you can kick the ball out by poking your leg through his legs, no difference to this beyond it was a v risky slide tackle that could easily have gone wrong if he'd taken the legs first

also it definitely wouldn't have been given by var in the premier league this season - given the new preference for staying with the onfield decision unless clear evidence otherwise

even aidy white said it wasn't a pen, no reason for gallagher so side the ref on this one either, he's retired and referred in the prem

[Irish Ian]

With our current team, and averaging our performances over our 5 games, we would not have made the play-offs last season.

The only reason in my eyes why Farke deserves more time is because he has a solid history of doing well in the Championship, though:-

i) Why we didn't list set piece/corner taker is beyond me
ii) Farke's use of substitutes is awful
iii) I've seen nothing from his tactics that have turned Leeds games around

1. Specialist set piece corner taker... No such thing. Its given to the player with the best ability from the starting 11, but it is and rightly should be a secondary skill. This is not NFL.
2. In your opinion they are, but with a win rate like his the notion of " game changing subs" is at times fanciful.
3. Again being dominant in most games the notion that we need to " turn things around is fanciful"
Rarely are we dominated, in the main we font come away with full points because players miss sitters.

[Victor_Notts-17]

Seriously: who writes this pish?

[hector]

Not been a great start in a supposed weaker division where 7 of our 8 of our points have come vs teams currently 20th and below.

Needs to improve and improve quickly.

And it was a pen.

That's better than previous seasons.... Those are the buggers that usually beat us.... and we whoop the top teams....

[weasel]

Not been a great start in a supposed weaker division where 7 of our 8 of our points have come vs teams currently 20th and below.

Needs to improve and improve quickly.

And it was a pen.

And our other point came against the team sitting top and is the only match they didn't win. It is hard to know whether the division is harder or not. It may be that the best teams aren't as good but the overall standard is higher. As it is we have won 2 matches, drawn 1 where we probably would have won it 99 times in 100, drawn 1 against a dogged team that we only took 1 point from alst season and currently are top of the league and lost 1 game which could have gone either way and a draw would have probably been a fair result.

We do need to get on a good run bet equally as we saw after the WBA draw a couple of wins changes the outlook very quickly.