The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 4th October) - Gruev out for at least six months

[Cjay]

DF be thrilled his excuses are being written for him

15 points from 9 games would be a poor total (if we lose of course).

But because of the injuries he will be able.to hide from that.

I think he earns his money now, he's probably the highest paid manager in the league and its times like now where he earns it.

Injuries are part of football, Sunderland have 5 or 6 of them, Burnley had the same as did Norwich.

It isn't an excuse

[mentalcase]

I don't have a crystal ball but I felt selling Glen Kamara was not necessary despite the fact the club made a small profit. Now he would have provided adequate cover and his experience is invaluable.

Have to agree about Kamara, not worth selling imo.

[Jammy 07]

DF be thrilled his excuses are being written for him

15 points from 9 games would be a poor total (if we lose of course).

But because of the injuries he will be able.to hide from that.

I think he earns his money now, he's probably the highest paid manager in the league and its times like now where he earns it.

Injuries are part of football, Sunderland have 5 or 6 of them, Burnley had the same as did Norwich.

It isn't an excuse

Agree there are no excuses.

However even with a full squad to select from it would still be a difficult game and we did get turned over there last season if further proof is needed.

As ever then a draw away from home at a difficult opponent would be an excellent result.

[Barlow Boy]

Apart from I don't think we'll lose tonight

Hope you’re right mate

[The Subhuman]

Agree Hamer is a very competent player but the more I've seen of him I'm convinced breaking the bank for him would have been the wrong thing to do.

At £10-£13M then worth a punt, however with virtually no upside in terms of his future value it would be difficult to justify spending more on him. Yes there is always the argument that a certain player might make the difference between promotion, or not, but gambling and paying over the odds isn't the best way to the run club as there are consequences to overspending on above average players who perhaps don't live up to the billing.

Sheffield United would have kept us hanging for as long as they could. 20M might have done it but I think we did well to step away personally, main rival, county rival and they were pissed we stole Bogle

[The Subhuman]

Expecting a win as always.

Be interesting to see who plays that holding mid/sweeper role, he’ll have to step into the third man at the back when the wing backs go forward. Rodon and Struijk maybe in for a very busy evening. Hopefully Sunderland will do what WBA did and settle for a draw early

Transition will be important as we should be dangerous on the counter. Still the best front 4 in the division

[whiteswan]

This season is turning into a disaster already.We need to be looking at January now and recruit if we've any chance of promotion if its not too late by then.

Without jerking my knee I have to agree with your post. It's now looking grim.

[The Subhuman]

Without jerking my knee I have to agree with your post. It's now looking grim.

It’s very redeemable, but cannot afford more injuries to this very shallow first team squad.

Interestingly if this were the Niners in the US with key positional injuries they would 100% be getting in 2 or 3 free agents.

[1964white]

This season is turning into a disaster already.We need to be looking at January now and recruit if we've any chance of promotion if its not too late by then.

Dealing in the January window?

We are talking about LUFC here, Tyzy.

[Prisoner37]

I'm not panicking yet, last season we were a massive 17 points off LC to haul them back in , injuries are an issue with a paper thin squad, that is down to the owners again.
All these silly international games is causing sides like us no end of grief.

Same as last season with international breaks and Sky Sports schedule making a difficult job more difficult.

Having said its the same as last season then our owners maybe should have planned better for the inevitable?

[mentalcase]

Same as last season with international breaks and Sky Sports schedule making a difficult job more difficult.

Having said its the same as last season then our owners maybe should have planned better for the inevitable?

Our owners have had long enough to see exactly what it takes to get out of this division, and also what it takes to stay in the one above, they will be to blame for me if we fail again.
Speculate to accumulate without being gung-ho.
Paper thin squads cause no end of issues.

[Clitheroe White]

I’m not sure we are in disaster territory just yet, putting the injuries to one side I think we are doing quite well to be honest.

Tonight is going to be tough, no doubt about that, and in truth I’m expecting a loss but even if we do lose, all is not lost still a long way to go.

100% agree!

[Barlow Boy]

100% agree!

[GreennWhite]

In no way is a defeat tonight a disaster. Why do some people think that if we lose thats the season over or promotion gone. We dont have to win this game tonight, but of course 3 points would be very handy. What will it prove if we win tonight ? very little, we beat both LC and Ipswich last season away from home and it still didnt get us promoted. A win will be great for confidence given what we have just had to deal with.

[Tom the Cat]

Farke is talking about resting Ramazani to avoid burnout !! Together with Gonzo he was our best player at Norwich and until the pair of them were subbed about twelve minutes from the end we looked like winning. After that we were lucky to draw. He needs to play these guys and go for a win.

[whiteswan]

Same as last season with international breaks and Sky Sports schedule making a difficult job more difficult.

Having said its the same as last season then our owners maybe should have planned better for the inevitable?

Yep! On both counts. I've been moaning about internationals and SKY interference for ages.

[ruttermania]

If Hamer was the one man guarantee of promotion why do S.U. have fewer goals than Leeds?Whatever he is he certainly doesn't replace either Gruev or Ampadu in the roles they play within this Leeds team so I can't see how chasing the unlikely prospect of Wilder ever allowing his sale for anything other than a grotesque overvaluation made any sense at all. Calling the season 'a disaster' 9 games in because of the unfortunate coincidence of a number of impact injuries is simply ludicrous . I remain hopeful for tonight so those of you 'fans' who wallow in pessimism can crow all you like if your dire predictions come to pass.

[Leeds1000]

I am not too worried about individual games this season and looking at the bigger picture. The teams i have witness so far have been poor and i can't see any squad capable of running away with it like LC and Ipswich were last season for the most part. We just have to stay in and around the top 4 into next year then make our move. I feel the club won't mess around in Jan if we are short in any area.

Gutted for Gruev along with Amps. They are a massive loss, especially to lose both so close together. Thank the Lord for Tanaka that boy is quality and will steady the ship in Midfield, as for Rothwell we will now find out what he's about with what should be a solid run in the side.

We are back to that age old feeling at Leeds that we are one more injury at CB & Mid from disaster. In saying all that if Tanaka and Rothwell turn up tonight i think we can beat Sunderland. In the games i have seen we should have won everyone and tonight i expect the same.

[Ellandback1]

Agree on Crew - suspect we should try him from the start though. Who are our other options at holding mid?

Rothwell has played a holding midfield role before, though obviously not what he is known for.

[MightyWhites]

Farke is talking about resting Ramazani to avoid burnout !! Together with Gonzo he was our best player at Norwich and until the pair of them were subbed about twelve minutes from the end we looked like winning. After that we were lucky to draw. He needs to play these guys and go for a win.

Exactly.