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Good Morning. It's Tuesday and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Dan James back on song

Despite being a little ring rusty, Dan James gave the Elland Road faithful a glimpse into what he brings to the party, with a dominant performance against the Pilgrims last weekend. James, 27 this week, is on the road to recovery after three months on the side-lines with a hamstring injury. His 13 goals and 7 assists in just 2700 minutes of game time last season, shows all we need to know about what he brings to the squad.

As Nancy Froston points out in a rare piece she has penned in 'The Athletic' yesterday, it's easy to get carried away 'by the promise of shiny new arrivals'. Many have taken the easy route and already labelled the young Welshman as an impact sub given his speed and versatility but I feel he deserves a much bigger role, and will be a contributing factor as to where Leeds end up next May. According to Froston...

For anyone who needed reminding, Dan James has shown once again why he is one of Leeds United’s most valuable players. There are flashier attacking options in manager Daniel Farke’s squad. There are players in that squad who have been at the club for far less time than the Welshman yet have their own catchy songs — in some cases, multiple tunes — sung in their honour from the terraces.

But in Saturday’s 3-0 home win against Plymouth Argyle, James produced a performance to reassert his status as the player who is the heartbeat of this side. When Leeds have needed him, in far tougher tests than the one posed by Wayne Rooney’s weekend visitors, James has stepped up. He was one of the few players not to wilt under the pressure of the occasion at last season’s Championship play-off final and he still bears a scar on his forehead from a collision with Southampton’s Kyle Walker-Peters in that game.

This campaign has been a clean slate for Leeds to build something new under Farke after the monumental efforts of last season and its agonising end, as automatic promotion slipped away and was followed by Wembley defeat. James’ class has never been in doubt but it is always easy to get carried away by the promise of shiny new arrivals.

Those came in the forms of Largie Ramazani and Manor Solomon, both brought in to add depth out wide in the final week of this year’s summer window. Meanwhile, Willy Gnonto has looked most likely to inherit the departed Crysencio Summerville’s ‘main man’ title with a number of standout performances making him certain of a starting place.

With injuries disrupting his start to the season — six league matches missed due to a hamstring complaint from August to October — it was easy to overlook James and his importance to what is a youthful Leeds side. But against Plymouth, he showed what he adds from the off, despite being a doubt due to a return of his hamstring issue before the game.

James, who turns 27 this week, was a menace to Plymouth as they camped 10 men behind the ball in an attempt to shut Leeds out. There was little hope of that approaching paying off as he sent crosses into the area and produced a moment of magic for the opener on the half-hour. Leeds’ 23 shots to zero dominance over the course of the game reflected the gap between the two sides, particularly in the first half.




You knew it was coming!!!

There is a distinct possibility that Kalvin Phillips could become available on loan in January with fitness issues continuing to rile Ipswich Town gaffer Kieran McKenna. The former Leeds saviour's fall from grace after leaving Elland Road in 2022 is well documented, as is his apparent desire to return to Elland Road. The general consensus is that the 28yo is overweight, and does not have the fitness levels necessary for a top flight player.

The Tractor Boys looked to be on course for their first three points of the season; that was before Phillips was sent off thirteen minutes from time, during which time Crystal Palace managed to rescue a point. This incensed the Ipswich gaffer who looks set to send Phillips packing in the new year.

Many believe Phillips has been unlucky. One tabloid even wrote 'if Kalvin Phillips won the lottery, he would probably lose his winning ticket'. When on form, Phillips has proven to be one of the best midfielders in the World. That may seem like long time ago now, but given the opportunity, should Leeds take the gamble? We were happy to offer Manchester City £3m (in loan fees) for a young and improving Jack Harrison back in 2018, so there would be no monitory reason why Leeds and Manchester City couldn't negotiate a deal!


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Do we need Kalvin?
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1964white wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:39 am Do we need Kalvin?
No we don't
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I’m not being argumentative, but £3m in fees for a (young) Jack Harrison back in the day will carry no comparison to what Citeh will be asking for KP, whether they want him or not. Citeh strike me as the kid who wants everybody else’s toys - not so they can play with them, more that you can’t.

I wouldn't balk at the return of our prodigal son, but as 64 asks, above: do we need him?

For peanuts I’d give him a chance. Who knows, ER might be his saviour; or was that just the Bielsa effect? I suspect the latter.
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There would be no room for Kalvin and Ampadu in the same midfield so no, we don't need him imo.
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Before Bielsa came Phillips was a very average player, Bielsa made him into an international but when he was sacked Phillips returned to his average form and luckily MC bought him since when he has been a disaster wherever he has played. We do not need Phillips back.
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1964white wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:39 am Do we need Kalvin?
Probably not but he is family
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McKenna rubbished the rumour last week and I don't think the red card will change his thinking . Most of the Ipswich ire was directed at the referee as the foul came in a breakaway where Ipswich thought they should have had a penalty . Personally I think Kalvin only went there so he could get Bielsa to try and pronounce Ipswich again. I always thought Kalvin was one of the few modern players who had the mentality to be a one club man and I think his experiences since he left might have reactivated that thought for himself . Given his penchant for redemption arcs I think DF might have a stab at signing him during the summer as there is a Premiership player there and the squad will need bolstering at that stage. Very much doubt that anything will happen in January though.
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No other top flight club would be interested in Kalvin if Canon fodder like Ipswich don't wont him.

Citeh will want him to be playing consistently, and at a reasonable level - Leeds can offer that.
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Is Dan James the most improved current player under Farke?
He used to be a bit, whats that Cjay phrase…
And if he is does it showcase Farkes ability to improve a player that many probably wouldn’t give him credit for.
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Dan James would be in my team every week, doesn’t drift in & out of games like some flashier players he just puts in a good solid, hard working, honest performance every game. The penalty miss & Wales defeat last season took its toll and he struggled a bit at the worst possible time for us but has been very good since his injury, keep him fit and he’ll only get better.
No disrespect to Kalvin but I don’t see where he could fit in for us or who he’d replace, we have other areas that need strengthening first so it’s a no for me.
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The Subhuman wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:22 am Probably not but he is family
And you know, I was his biggest fan.
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Orange Box wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:49 am I’m not being argumentative, but £3m in fees for a (young) Jack Harrison back in the day will carry no comparison to what Citeh will be asking for KP, whether they want him or not. Citeh strike me as the kid who wants everybody else’s toys - not so they can play with them, more that you can’t.

I wouldn't balk at the return of our prodigal son, but as 64 asks, above: do we need him?

For peanuts I’d give him a chance. Who knows, ER might be his saviour; or was that just the Bielsa effect? I suspect the latter.
I agree on every count OB, especially about Citeh. A point very well made.

I did say a few weeks ago that living just outside Ipswich I'd heard there were rumblings about Kalvins head being at Leeds United.....
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We have to put sentiment aside regarding Kalvin. At present and in the current form that he has been in for a long time then the answer is no. He isnt any better on current form than what we have now. Would he be prepared to sit on the bench ? he really needs a run of games to get his mojo back and i cant see that happening at Leeds as things stand.
Only Kalvin knows how he feels about wanting to come back, all the talk is just heresay and some fans pining for him to return.
I wouldnt complain if he came back, good chance he would get his mojo back again being in a club he obiviously loves. He would be a good addition to the squad, if needed, and if he was happy to do that and wait for his chance.
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Could we meet his wage expectations? We already have one considerable drain in Bamford.
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1964white wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:39 am Do we need Kalvin?
*Checks injury report* :shock:

A little added insurance is never a bad idea...
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Many believe Phillips has been unlucky. One tabloid even wrote 'if Kalvin Phillips won the lottery, he would probably lose his winning ticket'. When on form, Phillips has proven to be one of the best midfielders in the World. That may seem like long time ago now, but given the opportunity, should Leeds take the gamble? We were happy to offer Manchester City £3m (in loan fees) for a young and improving Jack Harrison back in 2018, so there would be no monitory reason why Leeds and Manchester City couldn't negotiate a deal!

Whoever wrote that needs to give their head a reet good f**king wobble, :rant:
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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:32 am No other top flight club would be interested in Kalvin if Canon fodder like Ipswich don't wont him.

Citeh will want him to be playing consistently, and at a reasonable level - Leeds can offer that.
The whole notion that KP is unwanted by Ipswich and that McKenna was fuming at him for his red card are of course bollocks and as usual come from one of your unnamed and imaginary sources.

Get it right :lol:
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3 midfielders better than Phillips so a firm no from me.
Only concern with James is that there constantly seems to be an injury issue. These things never get better
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Jaydog wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:57 am Is Dan James the most improved current player under Farke?
He used to be a bit, whats that Cjay phrase…
And if he is does it showcase Farkes ability to improve a player that many probably wouldn’t give him credit for.
Most improved player under Farke was Summerville, though obviously Rutter and Gray developed under Farke, whilst James and Firpo have both done really well under Farke.
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