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Meslier
Bogle/Byram
Rodon
Struijk
Firpo
Tanaka
Rothwell
James
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Meslier - 5
Bogle - 4
Rodon - 5
Struijk - 5
Firpo - 5
Tanaka -6
Rothwell- 5
James- 4
Aaronson -5
Gnonto - 5
Piroe - 4

Joseph - 3
Bamford - 2
Solomon - 2
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Meslier - 6.5
Firpo - 7
Bogle - 5.5
Tanaka - 7.5
Rodon - 8
Struijk - 5.5
James - 6.5
Rothwell - 5
Piroe - 5.5
Aaronson - 6.5
Gnonto - 6.5

Joseph - 6
Solomon - 6.5
Bamford - 5.5
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Meslier - 6
Firpo - 5
Bogle - 3
Tanaka - 6.5
Rodon - 7
Struijk - 6
James - 6
Rothwell - 4
Piroe - 6.5
Aaronson - 5
Gnonto - 5

Joseph - 6
Solomon - 6.5
Bamford - 4
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Meslier - 5
Firpo - 5
Bogle - 3
Tanaka - 6.5
Rodon - 7
Struijk - 6
James - 6
Rothwell - 4
Piroe - 6
Aaronson - 6
Gnonto - 5

Joseph - 4
Solomon - 6
Bamford - 4

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5 Meslier - partly responsible for their goal.

5 Bogle - gave away silly fouls, for defensively. Byram would have been the best option.

6.5 Rodon - one or two poor moments, but generally our best defender.

5 Struijk - sloppy challenges & marking, responsible for their goal twice, it's no good throwing your arms up Pascal when you react as slow as a snail.

5 Firpo - tepid display.

7 Tanaka - once again our most composed performer.

6 Rothwell - didn't think he was that bad, we looked worse when he was subbed.

6 James - Dan tried, but not a lot came off for him.

6 Aaronson - another one who wasn't as bad as some think, showed some nice skills.

4 Piroe - yet another lethargic display from our supposedly No.9, offered nothing. Wall CBs probably had their easiest game of the season

4 Gnonto - ran down too many dead avenues. Willy needs to play nearer the striker, he is wasted down the left wing. For all his effort, Gnonto is not showing the same early season form in our recent matches.

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6 Soloman - did ok, nothing spectacular.

Can't rate Bamford & Joseph when they were only on the park for ten minutes.
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1964white wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:34 pm 5 Meslier - partly responsible for their goal.

5 Bogle - gave away silly fouls, for defensively. Byram would have been the best option.

6.5 Rodon - one or two poor moments, but generally our best defender.

5 Struijk - sloppy challenges & marking, responsible for their goal twice, it's no good throwing your arms up Pascal when you react as slow as a snail.

5 Firpo - tepid display.

7 Tanaka - once again our most composed performer.

6 Rothwell - didn't think he was that bad, we looked worse when he was subbed.

6 James - Dan tried, but not a lot came off for him.

6 Aaronson - another one who wasn't as bad as some think, showed some nice skills.

4 Piroe - yet another lethargic display from our supposedly No.9, offered nothing. Wall CBs probably had their easiest game of the season

4 Gnonto - ran down too many dead avenues. Willy needs to play nearer the striker, he is wasted down the left wing. For all his effort, Gnonto is not showing the same early season form in our recent matches.

Subs:

6 Soloman - did ok, nothing spectacular.

Can't rate Bamford & Joseph when they were only on the park for ten minutes.
Pretty much how i remember it 64. The only Two i disagree with are Firpo (4) & James (5)i thought they were both poor. Firpo's lunge just summed up his day and James never got going. We have seen that performance a million times before.

I'm gonna give a bit of credit to Wall. They haven't got the budget but their boss as built a solid team who play to their strengths. Its a Fat Sam type of team if i've ever seen one.

On to QPR where i am sure the lads will get back on tracks.
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Leeds1000 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:15 pm Pretty much how i remember it 64. The only Two i disagree with are Firpo (4) & James (5)i thought they were both poor. Firpo's lunge just summed up his day and James never got going. We have seen that performance a million times before.

I'm gonna give a bit of credit to Wall. They haven't got the budget but their boss as built a solid team who play to their strengths. Its a Fat Sam type of team if i've ever seen one.

On to QPR where i am sure the lads will get back on tracks.
Yes, normal service to return as we acquire three points against the hoops.

Glad I don't have to watch Millwall every week.
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1964white wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:34 pm 5 Meslier - partly responsible for their goal.

5 Bogle - gave away silly fouls, for defensively. Byram would have been the best option.

6.5 Rodon - one or two poor moments, but generally our best defender.

5 Struijk - sloppy challenges & marking, responsible for their goal twice, it's no good throwing your arms up Pascal when you react as slow as a snail.

5 Firpo - tepid display.

7 Tanaka - once again our most composed performer.

6 Rothwell - didn't think he was that bad, we looked worse when he was subbed.

6 James - Dan tried, but not a lot came off for him.

6 Aaronson - another one who wasn't as bad as some think, showed some nice skills.

4 Piroe - yet another lethargic display from our supposedly No.9, offered nothing. Wall CBs probably had their easiest game of the season

4 Gnonto - ran down too many dead avenues. Willy needs to play nearer the striker, he is wasted down the left wing. For all his effort, Gnonto is not showing the same early season form in our recent matches.

Subs:

6 Soloman - did ok, nothing spectacular.

Can't rate Bamford & Joseph when they were only on the park for ten minutes.
So is Meslier partly responsible for every goal we concede. Or do you think he should have saved it, if that is the case he is more than partly responsible.
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DDB220 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:31 pm So is Meslier partly responsible for every goal we concede. Or do you think he should have saved it, if that is the case he is more than partly responsible.
Meslier was playing the ball out with short passes, for some strange reason, he took the decision to boot the ball up field when a short pass was on, the ball was always going to come back to us, as their giants won the majority of the heading duels. In an effort to win the second ball, Struijk gives away a free-kick in an area Millwall play for in order to lump the ball in our box. I asked immediately, why boot the ball to our statue No.9 & midgets up front, once again another brain-dead moment from Meslier.


Unfortunately, some of our players don't use their brains as we committed several fouls in dangerous areas, inevitably Millwall were always going to capitalise from one of these situations.

Bogle, Struijk & Firpo the main offenders!

Does Farke & his players actually do their homework on these type of teams, obviously not!
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Meslier - 6
Bogle - 4
Rodon - 6.5
Struijk - 5
Firpo - 5
Tanaka - 7
Rothwell - 5
James - 6
Aaronson - 5.5
Gnonto - 5.5
Piroe - 5.5
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1964white wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:14 am Meslier was playing the ball out with short passes, for some strange reason, he took the decision to boot the ball up field when a short pass was on, the ball was always going to come back to us, as their giants won the majority of the heading duels. In an effort to win the second ball, Struijk gives away a free-kick in an area Millwall play for in order to lump the ball in our box. I asked immediately, why boot the ball to our statue No.9 & midgets up front, once again another brain-dead moment from Meslier.


Unfortunately, some of our players don't use their brains as we committed several fouls in dangerous areas, inevitably Millwall were always going to capitalise from one of these situations.

Bogle, Struijk & Firpo the main offenders!

Does Farke & his players actually do their homework on these type of teams, obviously not!
Playing Devils advocate / so the short pass you believe was on - what if the recipient said No and Struijk said go long or a player made a run and he tried to find him. I struggle to comprehend how Mes is partly responsible.
How many phases after he plays the ball does it take before he is no longer culpable.

For me our biggest problem was the choice of defenders doubling up on Cooper. Bogle and Rodon were beaten on most if not every occasion in the air by Cooper.

It was our inability to neutralise Cooper - which is no easy task, which for me was the catalyst for their goal.

It could be argued Byram would have been a better choice at RB but if he had picked up an injury - Farke use of the squad would have been called into question.

It is ironic that within 2 weeks of the pole - how well is Farke doing. He has gone from a tactical genius to inept.

One poor performance and result and the narrative changes 180 degrees.

We all know how he sets up - I am surprised so many appear astonished when the effectiveness of our tactics are neutralised.

In truth we should have come away with a point from that game. Lack of composure at key moments is our biggest problem for me currently.
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DDB220 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:18 am It is ironic that within 2 weeks of the pole - how well is Farke doing. He has gone from a tactical genius to inept.
I didn't say Farke was inept. I said he makes mistakes, as we all do in life.

I'm a Farke in fan

I'm still unconvinced about our preparation for this match, sometimes you have to select a certain team to cope with the likes of Millwall. We lacked efficiency at the back & up top because we didn't have enough physicality in those areas, we allowed Millwall to bully us!
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DDB220 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:18 am Playing Devils advocate / so the short pass you believe was on - what if the recipient said No and Struijk said go long or a player made a run and he tried to find him. I struggle to comprehend how Mes is partly responsible.
Meslier could have floated the ball out to Bogle or James, but he panicked & booted the ball down the middle, where we invariably lose possession because we have no one who can head or hold the ball up at the front.

Struijk not winning the second ball cleanly & the same again when Pascal & Firpo stood around ball-watching cost us the match.

You wouldn't believe we'd only conceded eight goals over the season, watching us defend so shabbily in that one bit of play.
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1964white wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:10 pm I didn't say Farke was inept. I said he makes mistakes, as we all do in life.

I'm a Farke in fan

I'm still unconvinced about our preparation for this match, sometimes you have to select a certain team to cope with the likes of Millwall. We lacked efficiency at the back & up top because we didn't have enough physicality in those areas, we allowed Millwall to bully us!
I am just generalising. Farke is not going to change his approach, that much has been clear since he has been here. I get all the comments on the forum about we should have done this or that, played so and so etc.

But much of it is hindsight and pure speculation.

For me we struggled with Cooper at both ends of the pitch, we have a fair share of finesse in the team but we lack the necessary physicality to deal with players like Cooper.

Farke chose Rodon and Bogle to double up on him when defending the set piece and it didn’t work very well. It is what is, they had one chance and made it count. Thereafter we failed to break them down even though we had enough good situations during the course of the game.

Willy is struggling in front of goal of late, he is snatching at his opportunities, when he gets a break and one goes in he will will lose some of that anxiety, which most players suffer when going through a barren spell.
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DDB220 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:30 pm I am just generalising. Farke is not going to change his approach, that much has been clear since he has been here. I get all the comments on the forum about we should have done this or that, played so and so etc.

But much of it is hindsight and pure speculation.

For me we struggled with Cooper at both ends of the pitch, we have a fair share of finesse in the team but we lack the necessary physicality to deal with players like Cooper.

Farke chose Rodon and Bogle to double up on him when defending the set piece and it didn’t work very well. It is what is, they had one chance and made it count. Thereafter we failed to break them down even though we had enough good situations during the course of the game.

Willy is struggling in front of goal of late, he is snatching at his opportunities, when he gets a break and one goes in he will will lose some of that anxiety, which most players suffer when going through a barren spell.
Farke commented he wouldn't change the way we play & we would win more points than we'd drop, playing his systematic approach.
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