The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 6th December) Wober swap deal mooted

[Ellandback1]

Good Morning. It's Friday 6th December, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Wober swap deal mooted

Talks between Leeds and RB Saltzburg regarding Max Wober have just got interesting, with a swap deal being mooted, according to journalist Graeme Bailey, talking exclusively with LeedsUnited.news.

Wober's tenure has been littered with disappointment and controversy since joining the Whites almost two years ago, but there's no doubting his ability. He's a regular Austrian International, very capable at both centre half, and left-back. What he lacks in pace, he more than makes up in positioning and tackling ability.

There's no doubt that the Whites would be able to recoup to £10m they paid for him, but given his versatility, should an offer be entertained. Leeds have adequate cover at centre-back with Guilavogui, Ampadu (when fit) and Debayo all qualified whilst Schmidt and Byram are cover for Junior Firpo.

According to Bailey, even if Wober stays, given the partnership Leeds have with the Red Bull network, we could very easily see players from Leipzig or Saltzburg loaned to the Whites next month during the Winter transfer window!

We are told that Leeds, now part of the Red Bull network, are in regular contact and as part of those talks, there was talks about Wober and a potential loan to Salzburg. Wober is concerned about his lack of game time but Leeds generally think he has a big part to play.

We are told that conversations are continuing, and even if Wober does not leave – we could very well see players arriving at Elland Road from elsewhere in the Red Bull network.

Rams boss leaps to Farke's defence

During his pre-match presser, Derby boss Paul Warne expressed shock that Daniel Farke's favourability at Elland Road is wavering. The Leeds Manager has found himself under scrutiny this season as criticism mounts regarding his approach to substitutions, set-piece execution, and not having a plan B. Despite boasting the strongest and most expensive squad in the Championship, his decision making has raised eyebrows among the Elland Road faithful.

Failure to effectively counteract defensive setups such as the low block has resulted in dropped points and frustration among supporters who expect more given the quality at his disposal; yet Warne, a seasoned professional both as a player and Manager has leapt to Farke's defence saying...

I can’t believe he’s under any pressure at all…& if they did get rid of him I don’t know who they’d suggest to get in who could do it any better…. I think they’re a great a team. It’s the toughest place to go in the league.

[CUSSIE01]

Morning EB et al. Wober is only at ER because he has no choice atm, not convinced his heart lies with Leeds and reckon he’d jump at a move away if offered. Gnonto & Aaronson had a lot to do to get back the support of Leeds fans but although they receive a bit of stick on here for their performances at times their commitment can’t be faulted.

Warne is spot on re Farke, right manager at the right time and as the poll on here suggests he has the backing of a majority of fans on here. Set pieces are an issue, lob a ball into the box for Joe who has lead feet and can’t jump. There’s no variation, short corners, balls to the edge of the box, the dark art of blocking etc, just lump it in and pray. How do Arsenal score so many goals from corners ? 22 goals from corners since the start of the 23/24 season while we went almost 200 before scoring any.

[1964white]

Morning EB et al. Wober is only at ER because he has no choice atm, not convinced his heart lies with Leeds and reckon he’d jump at a move away if offered. Gnonto & Aaronson had a lot to do to get back the support of Leeds fans but although they receive a bit of stick on here for their performances at times their commitment can’t be faulted.

Warne is spot on re Farke, right manager at the right time and as the poll on here suggests he has the backing of a majority of fans on here. Set pieces are an issue, lob a ball into the box for Joe who has lead feet and can’t jump. There’s no variation, short corners, balls to the edge of the box, the dark art of blocking etc, just lump it in and pray. How do Arsenal score so many goals from corners ? 22 goals from corners since the start of the 23/24 season while we went almost 200 before scoring any.

Blimey!!!

I'm not surprised, to be honest.

[1964white]

Warne is correct.

Championship club jobs are not that attractive for top managers.

We'd no doubt appoint a coach no better than Farke.

[The Subhuman]

Morning EB et al. Wober is only at ER because he has no choice atm, not convinced his heart lies with Leeds and reckon he’d jump at a move away if offered. Gnonto & Aaronson had a lot to do to get back the support of Leeds fans but although they receive a bit of stick on here for their performances at times their commitment can’t be faulted.

Warne is spot on re Farke, right manager at the right time and as the poll on here suggests he has the backing of a majority of fans on here. Set pieces are an issue, lob a ball into the box for Joe who has lead feet and can’t jump. There’s no variation, short corners, balls to the edge of the box, the dark art of blocking etc, just lump it in and pray. How do Arsenal score so many goals from corners ? 22 goals from corners since the start of the 23/24 season while we went almost 200 before scoring any.

Don't think we've had a poll recently

[Jaydog]

The endless conjecture about Wober. And Bamford.
Sometimes you have to clear all the shite out the garage and start again.

[ruttermania]

I agree that Warne is correct and the likelihood is that any replacement would be worse if anything. With regard to Wober I believe that unless you are guaranteed that you can improve on an established international with substantial experience as a squad member that assuaging the hurt feelings of diehard Leeds fans is a poor reason for weakening a squad seeking promotion .Wober clearly was given a signal that his place for the Euros was at risk if he stayed at Leeds and if you were a 26 year old professional playing for a mid ranking national team would you have taken that risk when it might have been a once in a lifetime chance ? A few weeks ago there were loads of complaints when an unfortunate concatenation of circumstances led to a lack of cover in certain areas and the club were held responsible for something essentially outside their control. Now it's apparently okay to demonstrably weaken the squad for no good reason other than a perception of lack of motivation allied to the nonsense that he hasn't got game time while he was injured. With regard to corners in the recent past we scored against Sunderland and Luton from corners and in both cases Struijk was key to the success . As we didn't have him for the second half of last season perhaps the stats are a little skewed against us ?

[Clitheroe White]

The endless conjecture about Wober. And Bamford.
Sometimes you have to clear all the shite out the garage and start again.

You've obviously seen my garage!

Time for a clearout!

[weasel]

The endless conjecture about Wober. And Bamford.
Sometimes you have to clear all the shite out the garage and start again.

It is ascertaining whether it is sh*te, as you so bluntly put it, or it is something that could soon come in very useful. Getting rid of that old and battered gimp suit, I don't have a garage so am just basing this example on what Jaydog likely has in his garage, is fine and dandy, dandy quite likely being the most apt word to use there, but what if next week you find yourself hosting a 'cum as you are' type party and you find your best gimp suit has a hole in it, and not where a hole should be I should add - although with Jaydog there are probably just a select few places where he wouldn't want a hole to be, your other gimp suit hasn't really turned anyone on yet and so the old and battered gimp suit may just be the best option - after all when you briefly took it out and wore it last year it was a roaring success for a little while with balls being banged in from everywhere.

[CUSSIE01]

Don't think we've had a poll recently

Shows he still has the support of the majority in the poll who are in no hurry to push the self destruct button just yet. Of course he’s only a couple of bad results away from being hung, drawn & quartered on the halfway line at ER.

[weasel]

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That poll was from at least a week ago. We need new ones on at least an hourly basis so as to ascertain the feeling amongst the knee jerking populous.

[The Subhuman]

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Not the same thing though is it? That's just a championship popularity poll but there are other managers

The question would need to be are we confident in Farke, which I suspect he'd win hands own. My vote would change

[DDB220]

I did not vote in that pole as it is very subjective. Whether any of the managers on that list would get more out of our squad is anyone’s guess.

[Sean_Nile]

I don't like zees balls comin' in from ze behind, zer are too many gaping holes und zis ist not gut when it is slippery und vet... vee luze control of ze balls ven the shot is vet and slippery... it ist unbelievably hard ven der balls are whipped in like zat.

Ven we go behind like zis, I cannot enjoy mein tea and tart on der sofa.

[The Subhuman]

I agree that Warne is correct and the likelihood is that any replacement would be worse if anything. With regard to Wober I believe that unless you are guaranteed that you can improve on an established international with substantial experience as a squad member that assuaging the hurt feelings of diehard Leeds fans is a poor reason for weakening a squad seeking promotion .Wober clearly was given a signal that his place for the Euros was at risk if he stayed at Leeds and if you were a 26 year old professional playing for a mid ranking national team would you have taken that risk when it might have been a once in a lifetime chance ? A few weeks ago there were loads of complaints when an unfortunate concatenation of circumstances led to a lack of cover in certain areas and the club were held responsible for something essentially outside their control. Now it's apparently okay to demonstrably weaken the squad for no good reason other than a perception of lack of motivation allied to the nonsense that he hasn't got game time while he was injured. With regard to corners in the recent past we scored against Sunderland and Luton from corners and in both cases Struijk was key to the success . As we didn't have him for the second half of last season perhaps the stats are a little skewed against us ?

Was he? He's playing for Austria now and we're still in the championship. Someone is/was lying.

[Carrick Dave]

Was he? He's playing for Austria now and we're still in the championship. Someone is/was lying.

Yeah, he plays for Austria now, with a little cameo for Leeds in the Championship occasionally when they haven't got a game.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Warne is correct.

Championship club jobs are not that attractive for top managers.

We'd no doubt appoint a coach no better than Farke.

Just shows we're tougher on our own

There are better managers in the championship (other clubs supporters don't agree)

We miss too many chances. We concede soft goals. (the numbers say otherwise)

Too many glass half empty people. Always wanting something we haven't got and unable to appreciate what we do have.

I'll always want the best players at Leeds. But I do believe we have the best squad in the Championship.

Do I want a better manager? After living through so many bad ones, I'm more than happy with the one we have now.

[John in Louisiana]

That poll was from at least a week ago. We need new ones on at least an hourly basis so as to ascertain the feeling amongst the knee jerking populous.

I do not jerk my knee.

[John in Louisiana]

Not sure how Bailey says Leeds are part of the Red Bull network.

Weren't we assured that they were a shirt sponsor and nothing more?

[CUSSIE01]

Not the same thing though is it? That's just a championship popularity poll but there are other managers

The question would need to be are we confident in Farke, which I suspect he'd win hands own. My vote would change

Can’t remember saying it was the same thing.
So you aren’t confident in Farke ?